6 and 7 year olds being kep in at lunch time for forgetting homework

[DaanSaaf]

Year 2 ds just told me they have to stay in at lunch time and do extra work if they haven't brought their homework in.

Aibu to think that's a bit harsh at their age?

nolongersurprised

Evidence of?

So we've got one alleged Y2 teacher who's conceeded a point after a brief detour veering toward toilet alley with a username basically of a female name with an attachment, and now immediately another alleged Y2 teacher appears, detouring straight toward toilet alley and also with a female name inside username setup.

Well Misshannahb... bit dicey on the internet common sense if you ARE working in teaching using what I assume is your name+initial, or you're just sitting trying to conjure up teacher-esque usernames to get your piddle-kicks.

I'd be pissed off beyond belief if they kept my kids in incidentally - I've got OT and paediatric reports that my youngest NEEDS to have the time to run around, climb, play and explore physically as part of working through her difficulties - she does not need to be kept in to be made to do more of something which is incredibly draining for her and causes her physical pain in terms of reams and reams of writing. I'd also much rather she spent her time at home doing things recommended by her OT to try to make her issues with tasks like writing easier - than whatever pointless task they've cobbled together the morning before the weekly homework goes home to make sure they're seen to have "sent homework" to be honest - and we've had some shite ones this year. Some curriculum-linked which I didn't mind too much, but a fuck of a lot of filler and just "got to send something home" shite.

I've now jokingly threatened one of the kids' teachers (who I get on very well with - so I know it wasn't taken in at all a negative way) that the next time they send home a "make a model" homework I'm sending the 6 year old in with every single irritating joke book she owns to drive them insane in retaliation!

pen show us the evidence that homework has value at that age, then?

ThisIsTheFirstStep

I am not the one making assertions. I have nothing to show or prove.

pen you’re asserting that homework is useful.

Hahahahaha @Pengggwn

If you assert that homework has some value, go prove it to us.

I say not from my research.

So do your own. However you cannot because there’s none. Hence your call to make us disprove your point when we’ve proven our own.

And that’s the fundamental reason why I disagree with enforcing homework.

Do you think homework should be enforced for 6 year olds....

I don’t think pengggwn has actually stated that homework for 6 year olds results in higher academic attainment, more that it is a “learning opportunity”.

As is :

• playing
• sport
• dance
• feeding pets
• socialising

So, to come back to the AIBU, it seems very harsh to punish 6 year olds for passing up a “learning opportunity” when their parents may have simply prioritised another activity.

A “learning opportunity” should be worth doing if it’s going to worthwhile.

Homework is questionable

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29175972/

homework is questionable yet there are benefits of physical activity on learning that are being ignored in favour of keeping very small children in at break and potentially eating into their sporting activities at home.

From the meta analysis (26 studies, 10205 children aged 4-13 years), “Physical activity, especially physical education, improves classroom behaviours and benefits several aspects of academic achievement, especially mathematics-related skills, reading and composite scores in youth”.

Rainbow - I reported the two dodgy people on this thread as I reckon both of them are sock puppeting toilet trolls. Mumsnet are yet to do anything.

RainbowFairiesHaveNoPlot - yes my DSs OT said the same thing, that staying in at break time would be detrimental and make it harder for him to concentrate in the afternoons. He has issues with motor skills and hypermobility which means that doing a lot of writing is hard work and uncomfortable. I have been told many times by the OT staff (who are qualified professionals) that developing gross motor skills will improve his fine motor skills. So we do climbing, swimming, developing core strength etc. Your hands don’t work in isolation from the rest of your body!

Also, if he doesn’t go out to do exercise at breaktime his vestibular and proprioceptive systems will not be getting the physical stimulation they need and therefore in the afternoon all his concentration will be spent trying to sit still on a chair, and he will not be able to focus on the learning. Some teachers are great and have understood this, but others don’t want to understand, they just want their worksheets completed so they can tick a few more boxes.
The thing is that this doesn’t just apply to my DS who has specific needs - it applies to all children.

@nolongersurprised yes so I’d rather there was more emphasis on physical activity than forcing 6 year olds to do spurious homework.

@Rainbow

Only I don't teach year 2, I teach year 6.

Very happy that one child in my Y2 class is now confidently achieving age related expectations in maths, when before Easter I had a meeting with parents to outline my concerns about her progress. What's made the difference? Some extra practice of counting in steps, addition and subtraction, and partitioning 2-digit numbers... which I set and she did... over the holidays at home!

That's the evidence I need right there that the right attitude and effort makes a big difference. How happy she is now with herself and how pleased her parents will be.

Learning at this time can cause stress for a child who has not adapted to the regime. Some tasks may seem just impossible to do, they need just a little boost to keep moivng on and do whatever their parents or teachers want them to do. I remeber my kids suffering from overloading with tasks with no time to rest.. If the thing is about lack of time, I advise you to order a paper at a paper writing service. The writers there are just brilliant.

I always keep my yr5s in at playtime for not doing homework. More importantly though why has an old thread been bumped?

This country is a storm brewing for mental health and anxiety in young kids. They are still very very young. They learn best through play and not stress. Finland is the best for this and much less mental health associated with anxiety and pressure in schools. It's wrong so wrong at this age.

Homework for children that age has been shown to be without educational benefit

Children that age also should not be needing more than the allotted school hours to focus on academic work, if it's required it points to a problem in the school system.

Children that age have significant need for time doing things like running around, free play, being outside - these all directly impact educational attainment and brain development.

Homework in primary grades tends to particularly disadvantage kids who don't have as much support at home.

So - the whole thing is fucking idiotic. Usually homework in primary school is done because the parents - some parents - like it.

Zombie

It sets children from chaotic backgrounds off on a downward spiral of underachievement. We all know the children who will be kept in detention. My dyslexic son had the misfortune to have the same teacher for 2 years running.She knew he was dyslexic but every night a word search was included in his homework. We ignored it and he got detention, he tried to complete it and got detention.I did his word search every night for almost two years and the sheer tokenism of it was ridiculous.

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I hope you are joking. Children that age shouldn't be doing homework.

They only need to be kept in once, then they'll remember to do their homework at home.
If you object to them being kept in , maybe that will remind YOU to make sure they do their homework at home.