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6 and 7 year olds being kep in at lunch time for forgetting homework

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DaanSaaf · 08/05/2018 20:55

Year 2 ds just told me they have to stay in at lunch time and do extra work if they haven't brought their homework in.

Aibu to think that's a bit harsh at their age?

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ICantCopeAnymore · 13/05/2018 10:04

Lots of us teachers hate homework too. Particularly those of us who have degrees in Primary Ed and realise that it has no benefit. But then those of us who understand that usually have a good understanding of child development too.

Petitepamplemousse · 13/05/2018 10:06

Linzey seems to have literally zero experience of teaching disadvantaged students as well, and very little empathy. Is it a private school, I wonder?

Linzeyhun · 13/05/2018 10:07

@curious

I think I may have confused you. The letter I was referring to was in regards to kids going to the toilet in class time.

Linzeyhun · 13/05/2018 10:08

@petite

No, it is not a private school.

Petitepamplemousse · 13/05/2018 10:10

What about those children who don’t have time, space or support to do homework at home? Those who forget because 6 year olds need a parent to remind them? Same punishment for all? Just seems draconian to me. Even with my secondary school pupils I give them a chance to bring in the work the next day.

Curiousaboutchoices · 13/05/2018 10:11

Has this thread got you thinking linzey?

Petitepamplemousse · 13/05/2018 10:12

Also Linzey, read the EEF guidance and look at how effective homework has been demonstrated to be. Not at all effective. Evidence informed practice is really important if we are to move away from pedagogical choices informed by our own opinions and ideologies. Seriously, do some research, and show a little empathy and kindness too.

Linzeyhun · 13/05/2018 10:15

@petite

Obviously if I am aware of such circumstances I don't enforce the punishment. I do like your idea of asking them to bring it the next day.

I will try that tommorow if any one forgets homework.

Curiousaboutchoices · 13/05/2018 10:18

Why not just talk to the bloody parents linzey? You’ve learned nothing on here despite your concessions. I give up.

ICantCopeAnymore · 13/05/2018 10:20

Toilet, toilet, toilet.

Linzeyhun · 13/05/2018 10:20

@curious

Yes that is what I meant, I will have a discussion with parent to make sure they bring it on Tuesday if they have forgot tommorrow.

PinkBassoon · 13/05/2018 10:21

*Obviously if I am aware of such circumstances I don't enforce the punishment. I do like your idea of asking them to bring it the next day.

I will try that tommorow if any one forgets homework.*

What a great idea! 🙄👍

Linzeyhun, you have a lot to learn.

ICantCopeAnymore · 13/05/2018 10:22

Do you mean forgotten? Hmm

Curiousaboutchoices · 13/05/2018 10:23

Brilliant Linzey. Thank you. And you’ll never keep a 6/7 year old on again? Speaking to parent will tick the ofsted box for the school.

Curiousaboutchoices · 13/05/2018 10:23

Keep in not keep on

Linzeyhun · 13/05/2018 10:23

@Icantcope.

Thank for criticising my grammar. It is this bloody phone.

Linzeyhun · 13/05/2018 10:26

@Curious

You have opened my eyes, so no, I will not keep them in for homework unless as a last resort.

PinkBassoon · 13/05/2018 10:30

☺️👍

Curiousaboutchoices · 13/05/2018 10:33

I applaud you linzey, thank you. That was a magnanimous concession.

Curiousaboutchoices · 13/05/2018 10:35

Ps there is no last resort though - you conceded they were not in control, remember that. If that’s the case they are never culpable.

Curiousaboutchoices · 13/05/2018 10:43

If it helps there are many parents who don’t like/agree with/do homework but who won’t have the balls to tell you to your face. If you’re fobbed off on one or more occasions, assume they either disagree with or aren’t interested in homework and then deal accordingly. I do accept you may have to cover your own arse for SIP and ofsted purposes but you can do that without ever involving the child.

When we wrote to the school, my daughter’s teacher took her aside the next day and said ‘your parents have talked to me about homework, it’s fine, don’t worry’, gave her a quick hug and never mentioned it again. I cannot say how much my view of that teacher was elevated by such a wonderfully empathetic, child oriented reaction, even though she undoubtedly thought I was a twat. That’s putting the child first, and I was so impressed.

Pengggwn · 13/05/2018 11:10

. I do accept you may have to cover your own arse for SIP and ofsted purposes but you can do that without ever involving the child

Simply not true. Ofsted will come in and say 'no evidence of X' and that is it. There is no 'arse covering'. Also, SLT in most schools know this. They will do a book scrutiny, ask the teacher where the homework is and ask them - if it hasn't been done - why the child hasn't been kept in to do it, if that is the school policy.

Curiousaboutchoices · 13/05/2018 11:22

Pengwyyn that’s just not true. I’ve been involved in ofsted inspections. Ofsted inspectors aren’t all automatons with no ability to think outside the box and look at the facts. Schools are assessed on action or inaction, achievement and pupil progress, and as homework has no impact on achievement it’s largely irrelevant.

Pengggwn · 13/05/2018 13:19

Curiousaboutchoices

In what capacity 'involved' and in how many inspections?

And I haven't said anyone is an automaton.

CalF123 · 13/05/2018 14:09

There is really some nonsense being spouted on this thread. If DC of that age get home at 4pm, they have 4 hours in which to do homework, play, eat etc. The idea that they don't have time to do 15 minutes of homework is ludicrous.

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