The actors who played Snape, Sirius, Lupin, etc were all too old in the movies..

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I mean, don't get me wrong, I love Alan Rickman. But I recently started playing the new Harry Potter "Mystery at Hogwarts" game and I came to the realization (because I OBVIOUSLY don't have better things to think about) that Snape should only be 23/24 in this game. He should have been 31 at the start of the Potter series, but Rickman was in late 50's. I know life was difficult in the Potterverse but come-on, a 31 year old does not look 50.

I'm sure the reasoning was that they wanted bigger names in the movies to get more of a draw, but surely there were actors in their 30's who could have played the roles?

I want a movie series called The Order of the Phoenix exploring the above. There could be lots of Sirius on his motorbike, and Hagrid, and Molly's brothers who got killed and all the rest of it.

TooExtraImmatureCheddar Wasn't it Sirius that set that up, or was James in on that too? Another deeply unpleasant incident, not only could Severus been killed or bitten, but what did they think was going to happen to Remus afterwards? He could have been killed as well, and if he wasn't I don't think he'd have been able to live with himself afterwards. Nice thing to do to one of your supposedly best friends!

I just love how much shit Severus gets for standing up for himself in the fandom, because according to some idiots you should just take years of abuse, attempted murder and indecent assault! Did I mention I take this far too seriously? Just kind of hits a nerve with me.

but what did they think was going to happen to Remus afterwards?

I know. Remus would have been devastated. He was such a sensitive soul. (I think about it faaarrr too much too!)

I hadn't thought about poor Remus if the attack had actually gone ahead

TooExtra I've always been surprised that the "thrice defied" thing was never expanded upon, it's so evocative. I was expecting to find out a bit more in the final book, and when the Pottermore stuff started coming out I assumed it would be one of the first things she'd write about. I do suspect she might be keeping her powder dry on that one for prequel material, possibly she hasn't quite made her mind up about the defiance and doesn't want to commit. (Whether or not she ever gets round to such a prequel is a different question. I doubt it somehow.)

Come on though James and Sirius were just more fuckable than Severus. Greasy hair and a thin body isn’t fuckable.

James never did it for me and fairly neutral about Sirius although I like him. I do have a soft spot for Remus though.

Ohmydayslove Maybe not to you, but some of us are weird like that. All Severus needed was some shampoo, Sirius and James needed personality transplants for me to find them attractive.

QuimReaper and TheHulksPurplePanties Exactly, I find it rather upsetting. Poor Remus.

Oh come off it, Snape was hardly an innocent bullied teenager, not with his obsession with the dark arts and Voldemort.

And he was horrible to Poor Neville and Harry as well, when they were at school.

#notasnapefan
#teamjames

My recollection is that James and Sirius set up the prank together - Snape tells Harry that James got cold feet and that's why he saved him - to save his own skin. Dumbledore has a slightly different take on it, but I don't remember exactly what. Either way, James and Sirius don't come out of it looking good.

Also, Snape was willing to hand the husband and baby of the woman he supposedly loved to Voldermort, knowing what would happen to them. He's far from innocent and deeply selfish. He only changed because Lily was killed.

I think all Dumbledore says is that "James did something that Snape found unforgivable - he saved his life" and the rest of the story comes from Remus; then it's not until HBP that Harry confronts Snape with it and hears that James got cold feet, so we don't get exactly contradictory versions of the story. Quite a clever drip feed really.

I might be remembering incorrectly though.

Also, Snape was willing to hand the husband and baby of the woman he supposedly loved to Voldermort, knowing what would happen to them. He's far from innocent and deeply selfish. He only changed because Lily was killed.

Yes - exactly that!!! Let's not all be feeling sorry for Snape.

then it's not until HBP that Harry confronts Snape with it and hears that James got cold feet, so we don't get exactly contradictory versions of the story

That's in POA.

Oh, is it? I thought it was much later for some reason, when we get those Snape flashbacks from the Pensieve.

Luna was wonderful, all the other kids were awful, particularly in the first 3 or 4 films.

Nope, Quim, in POA Harry shouts at Snape to "Shut up about my Dad ok" and then says how he knows that James saved his life. Hence Snape putting him straight.

The Snape occlumency flashbacks then show that James really was a not very nice teenager. That's OOTP, not HPB.

I am definitely due a reread

Of course the flashbacks are OOTP, as he asks Sirius about them. Duh.

I am a huge HP nerd .

Severus was an innocent bullied teenager though, until he started hanging out with Death Eaters. I think his interest in the Dark Arts would have been a teenage phase if he hadn't needed to defend himself from those two. I'm not denying that he screwed up big time with the prophecy fiasco, and I think he spent the rest of his life knowing that and trying to make amends for it in his own way.

JK Rowling did say something along the lines of if Severus hadn't been into the Dark Arts, Lily would have married him, and that just made me cross. That would have meant changing most of his personality and background (there's a bit somewhere in OOTP where Sirius tells Harry that Severus knew more dark spells as a first year than most of the seventh years, I assume his mum had been teaching him those.) I don't think being interested in dark things means you're going to turn out evil. Rather in terms of Harry Potter land it's good to know what you're up against.

#teamseverus
#mypoorbaby
#notashamed

Yes, young Snape was bullied. Yes, James and Sirius were dicks.

There is NO EXCUSE for Snape bullying the students. Neville was so scared of him that Snape was his Boggart... the thing he most feared above all else. He was horrible to Hermione too. So what if she was a know-it-all?? That is not an excuse for him to be nasty to her. Like in GOF when Harry and Malfoy attempt to jinx each other but they hit Hermione and Goyle instead... Goyle gets sent to the hospital wing, Snape looks at Hermione’s fast growing teeth and callously says there’s no difference, even though they were well past her chin.

THAT is why I dislike Snape. He was a nasty bully to his pupils. There is NEVER ANY EXCUSE for that kind of behaviour.

Everyone always says that Mr & Mrs Potter Sr were much older when James was born - isn't that just fanwank? Obviously JK had to kill all his magical family off as the story wouldn't have worked otherwise, but I thought that they were much older parents was something we'd decided amongst ourselves.

No, JK said it herself.

www.pottermore.com/writing-by-jk-rowling/the-potter-family

Snape was a right possessive misogynist when Lily was a teenager too.

The fanfic Harry Potter And The Methods of rationality says Dumbledore allowed Snape to be terrible to indirectly weaken Slytherin House. Instead of being Ambitious and Cunning their focus became racism and bullying. Slytherin was the recruiting base for Voldemort so by creating a substandard house, in the decades to come if it’s a long war, you would have substandard death eaters who can be defeated by the others.

I’m otherwise quite normal and have a life and grownup job