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We’re all going on a WITCH HUNT! We’re not scared ...we persist. (Trump cont.)

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TheClaws · 08/05/2018 04:35

In response to one of Trump’s incoherent WITCH HUNT! tweets in the last 12 hours, Rep. Adam Schiff sent this:

Adam Schiff @RepAdamSchiff 12 hrs
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Adam Schiff Retweeted Donald J. Trump

Given all the secret meetings with the Russians, the denials, the false statements, and the guilty pleas, your attacks on the Republican, respected, decorated, Vietnam Veteran running the investigation could not be more false, or transparent.

Previous thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3231026-Trumpwatch-Courage-Calls-to-Courage-Everywhere

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cozietoesie · 15/05/2018 21:29

Bolton's doing?

cozietoesie · 15/05/2018 21:31

Sorry. The Cyber Coordinator elimination.

lionheart · 15/05/2018 21:34

Yes.

lionheart · 15/05/2018 22:27

Natasha Bertrand
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@NatashaBertrand

News: Judge in Manafort case has DENIED his motion to dismiss special counsel's superseding indictment. The indictment "falls squarely within that portion of the authority granted to the Special Counsel," she writes.

Quantumblue · 15/05/2018 23:04

Across I am picturing you in all that lovely Big Little Lies scenery.
I'm a bit conflicted te the NK summit. Obviously I want peace on the peninsula and beyond but don't want 45 taking credit and using it to goad Iran.

AcrossthePond55 · 15/05/2018 23:11

Weather is gorgeous cozie and we spent some time watching a romp of otters playing in the sea.

I said earlier that KJU would lead Scrotus on then cancel the meeting so his antics don't surprise me a bit.

cozietoesie · 16/05/2018 00:34

I recall, Across. That PP is looking more and more slippy.

cozietoesie · 16/05/2018 00:36

What particularly concerns me is what might be the 'cover', though.

AcrossthePond55 · 16/05/2018 00:49

I think KJU is going to find a reason to be insulted by something, either real or imagined.

But with Scrotus he shouldn't have to look too far for a reason.

TheClaws · 16/05/2018 01:15

Here is the full text of the NK statement. Some outlets are calling it a drastic change in tone from the last few weeks, but of course we know it is not as we have been regularly reading KCNA. They are very, very highly strung.

KCNA Blasts U.S. and S. Korea for Staging Large-scale Military Drill against DPRK

Pyongyang, May 16 (KCNA) -- KCNA made public the following report on May 16:

The south Korean authorities, together with the U.S., has been staging the largest-ever "2018 Max Thunder" joint air drill throughout south Korea since May 11 in a bid to make a preemptive air strike at the DPRK and win the air.

Involved in the drill are over 100 fighters of various missions including B-52 strategic nuclear bombers and F-22 Raptor stealth fighters under the supervision of the U.S. imperialist aggressor forces in south Korea and the south Korean air force. It is to last till May 25.

Public opinions at home and abroad comment that the maneuver is the largest-ever and a reflection of the invariable stand of the U.S. and south Korea to persist in the "maximum pressure and sanctions" against the DPRK.

The DPRK-targeted drill across south Korea is an undisguised challenge to the Panmunjom Declaration and a deliberate military provocation to the trend of the favorably developing situation on the Korean Peninsula.

The north and the south solemnly declared in the declaration that a new peace era was ushered in and reached an agreement on making joint efforts to defuse the acute military tensions on the peninsula and substantially ease the danger of war and the U.S. also fully supported it.

However, even before the ink of the historic April 27 Declaration got dry, the south Korean authorities and the U.S. started such a drill against the DPRK, reacting to all the peace-loving efforts and good intentions which the DPRK has shown with rude and wicked provocation and arousing serious concern and disappointment among all the fellow countrymen and the international community wanting the declaration to be implemented.

If the U.S. and the south Korean authorities regard the phase of improving inter-Korean ties and the DPRK-U.S. dialogue provided by the proactive and broadminded efforts and measures of the DPRK as something allowed any time and any hour, then they are sadly mistaken.

The south Korean authorities, in particular, resorted to such improper acts quite contrary to the promise to make efforts for the peace, prosperity and reunification on the peninsula together with the north and are allowing even human scum to brazenly hurl mud at the dignity of the supreme leadership of the DPRK and its system and play down the Panmunjom Declaration in front of the building of the "National Assembly".

There is a limit in showing goodwill and offering opportunity.

The historic Panmunjom Declaration cannot be implemented by the unilateral efforts of a single party but can result in a good fruition only when the two parties create favorable conditions and climate by pooling their efforts.

We cannot but take a step of suspending the north-south high-level talks scheduled on May 16 under the prevailing seriously awful situation that a mad-cap north-targeted war and confrontation racket are being kicked up in south Korea.

The south Korean authorities, lost to all senses, should be held wholly accountable for the scuttled north-south high-level talks and the difficulties and obstacles in the way of the north-south relations.

The U.S. will have to think twice about the fate of the DPRK-U.S. summit now on high agenda before a provocative military racket against the DPRK in league with the south Korean authorities.

We will closely watch the ensuing behavior of the U.S. and the south Korean authorities. -0-

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cozietoesie · 16/05/2018 01:32

Ho Hum.

cozietoesie · 16/05/2018 01:34

Oh - and some of you were wondering about the significance of those photos. Mr O'Donnell has guests.

TheClaws · 16/05/2018 01:51

Mr Manafort and his no good, very bad day.

Washington Post @washingtonpost
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U.S. judge refuses to dismiss Paul Manafort charges in D.C., clearing way for trial

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Federal judge rejects Manafort's bid to dismiss Mueller indictment politi.co/2rQYKDx

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TheClaws · 16/05/2018 01:55

Sorry lion I didn’t see you had already posted about Manafort!

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Quantumblue · 16/05/2018 02:59

Good read on leaks and the White House culture.
www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/how-game-theory-explains-the-leaks-in-the-trump-white-house?mbid=social_twitter

TheClaws · 16/05/2018 05:37

Gosh, I’m so very surprised! (BTW, I have verified this, but wasn’t able to post the NK source as it was behind a paywall. I’m not messing with NK paywalls.)

Josh Smith @joshjonsmith
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BREAKING: KCNA says North Korea will "reconsider" summit with Trump if U.S. insists on it giving up nuclear program, says it will never give up its nuclear program in exchange for economic trade with the United States

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Lweji · 16/05/2018 06:17

They've always said they'd stop testing. That's all. How embarassing.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 16/05/2018 07:11

Ha ha ha ha! NK asking Trump to give up his nukes! That will go down really well. If it wasn't so serious I'd say that was a good example of "Put that in your peace pipe and smoke it!"

Lweji · 16/05/2018 07:29

I read it like that the first time, but I think it's meant as NK will pull out of the meeting if the US insists that NK gives up their nuclear missiles.

I kind of doubt they have any to start with.

AsAProfessionalFekko · 16/05/2018 07:31

I thought that their big nuclear facility was destroyed in an earthquake /landslide anyway?

Lweji · 16/05/2018 07:41

A test site, yes. And soon after they offered to stop testing because "they didn't need to anymore", implying they already had full nuclear capability. But I suspect Russia helped them play a con.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 16/05/2018 07:42

Oops! I think you're right Lweji! Smile

AsAProfessionalFekko · 16/05/2018 07:44

So Kim will say 'oh Donald, your nukes look great! Can I have a closer look? Can I take one home to show my mum? I wilk go e it back, I promise!'.

I can absolutely see that happen.