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Does life ever get less... shit?

123 replies

DameSaggyMith · 25/04/2018 22:42

Pretty much everyone (especially women) I know are in the same loop of:

Work is shit, hours are long, stressful.
Kids are hard. They cry and moan and get shit loads of parasites and viruses that make them cry and moan more, and sleep less.
There's no time for any other element of life. Even sleep.

I know it's not just me. Does it ever get better? Is retirement less grating and stressful? Wondering what it was all for. AIBU to want life to be generally less tedious?

OP posts:
tooreal · 26/04/2018 12:11

A bit mean Furano. I don't think its children per se the OP is stressing about, though of course can be a large part of it, and sometimes thats how it turns out. I'm guessing its the bigger picture. My mother thinks things have got worse for women since her generation, that they're doing it all now and are often sometimes completely overwhelmed.

tooreal · 26/04/2018 12:15

That says I have to agree with the original and interesting way Mirrivan expresses herself...

Bexter801 · 26/04/2018 12:20

Change it all....Leave work,go out more,make new friends,move house....why not? Oh how exciting life can seem then Smile

squashyhat · 26/04/2018 12:22

Don't have kids and take early retirement from a job with a good pension. Worked for me!

MinaPaws · 26/04/2018 13:54

Not sure I agree that having kids makes us more miserable. In fact, it's the opposite fo rme. Having DC is a reason for me to stay alive, reasonably healthy, clean, upright and smiling. Focusing on what brings them joy has without doubt been the best fun I've ever had in the world, from paddling in muddy streams to petting horses, cuddling the cat, playing tickle chase games, making massive cakes for them etc. They bring a sense of joy and purpose to ordinary everyday life.

DameSaggyMith · 26/04/2018 21:39

Thank you everyone. It's been a tough day but I have read your messages with resolve to make changes and prioritise life, family and fun over work.

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bluebell1981 · 26/04/2018 22:38

Life really doesn't have to be like that. If you can prioritise family and doing things you actually like, it'll make all the difference. I find it really sad that we only get such a limited time here and for too many they're leading unhappy lives, or worse.
If you can make changes you're incredibly privileged - make the most of that opportunity!

speakout · 26/04/2018 22:43

Sorry my life has been good- especially since having kids.

I was a SAHM for a long time, my youngest is 17 and I still only work 20 hours a week.
I have plenty time to exercise- always have, and I have never been on a diet,
I love my life.

MustShowDH · 27/04/2018 01:56

Great post Mina.

I have depression and battle the 'is this IT??' feelings.

To address the 'why have kids?' question, I think many don't realise how shit it is until its too late. I mean, what are you meant to do, put them back? Plus its possible to hate being a mother at the same time as loving your kids with your whole being.

I'm going to re-read Minas post with a notebook in hand and set some short term goals.

Lloyd45 · 27/04/2018 06:25

I've had a great life with children, now they are growing up I'm thinking is this it. My life is still wonderful but feel something is missing.

Teateaandmoretea · 27/04/2018 06:35

I think that life is hard and we are fed this line of happiness when the reality is that few people are 'happy' all the time. Overarching contentment and having good times are more realistic. This is what I now aim for.

I don't think DC make you less happy, but they make life harder and more stressful at times. Life can also be incredibly hard for older people, it's only the lucky few who have a lovely retirement. Others lose those close to them, are in ill health, are short of money etc. Ditto teens and those in their 20s, for many it is a time of angst rather than enjoying youth.

OP your job sounds awful Sad

confusedandemployed · 27/04/2018 06:49

I'm about as happy now as I've ever been. I think part of the reason is I stopped at 1 DC and the other part is I have a job I enjoy, which I don't find stressful and which I do at home 100% of the time.

But it's taken the slow painful death of my DM, a marriage and divorce to ex-DH and umpteen jobs which weren't right for me to get here.

1 DC means I have money to do fun stuff with her. She's 5yo so that includes more and more stuff that I enjoy too now.
I've settled for a relatively well paid job instead of a very well paid job. The pay off is I enjoy it, it isn't at all stressful and I WFH all the time. I have less money sure, but I have plenty.
Ex DH and I are still great friends and we share DD 50/50. I'm aware that I'm lucky in this, but it is the holy trail of co-parenting after separation: plenty of time with DD and plenty of free time.
I'm seeing someone I fancy but have no desire to take it further and he feels the same.
I have a wonderful circle of friends who are fun and we work around each others children to ensure we see plenty of each other.
However. If I worked 70 hrs or had more kids I think my life wouldn't be anything like as good.

speakout · 27/04/2018 06:54

I too think it's a work/life balance.

I am lucky to be working from home doing part time hours for a full time salary.
I can choose my hours.
I am never frazzled.

I have had a lot of hardship in my life and living a peaceful happy family with no debt feels like paradise.

adaline · 27/04/2018 07:20

Working a 70 hour week and trying to juggle family life, kids, housework etc. is a recipe for disaster unless you can outsource all the drudge to someone else.

I love my life but like a PP said it's about balance. I've never worked more than 40 hours a week - what's the point? I'd rather be at home with my partner or out with the dog or doing something I enjoy. We earn enough to pay the bills, save a comfortable amount and we never go without.

But we chose this lifestyle too. We chose a cheap part of the country, bought a cheap fixer-upper and live somewhere where the entertainment is country walks and going to the beach, not the cinema, theatre or shops. Our life and rural location isn't for everyone but it means neither of us has to work stupid hours just to pay the mortgage every month.

If I had to work 70 hours a week to stay afloat financially I would be pretty bloody miserable too.

Whenthereshope · 27/04/2018 07:28

I'm 37 and my life is hard work. My Dad said to me a few months ago that my problem was that I was expecting this part of my life to be easy but that it's not for most people because a lot of your 30's and 40's are your "building years". They are the years you need to sow the seeds for your future and your kids future, so stop whinging and build. That made me feel much better thinking about it like that.

Teateaandmoretea · 27/04/2018 07:39

I think your Dad sounds very wise whenthereishope, I hadn't thought of it like that.

User5trillion · 27/04/2018 07:54

I am basically really happy. Life can change in an instant with circumstances out of our control. Ill health, death etc. So its my mission to enjoy every second of the good stuff as tomorrow it might all go to shit.

I try to keep work in balance, enjoy and have fun with my children. I try to make time for my relationship with my husband and live in the moment. I love to have a long term plan but accept it has to change and evolve constantly.

I steer clear of drama, social media, twatty people.

I would love to be thinner and more attractive but not enough to do anything about it!Grin

I value what I have and try to count my blessings. I had a tough childhood and 10 yr ea relationship so I really value what I have.

Yes if course more money, time etc would be better but I am not sure I would be happier.

On the way home from work steve wright always plays enjoy yourself its later than you think, so I try to keep that in mind!

Sorry if I sound smug, its taken 40 yrs and a lot of heartache to get here.

CollyWombles · 27/04/2018 08:14

Hi OP. I think we all have felt or feel like yourself at some point. The routine of work, kids and repeat gets most people down after a while and wondering 'is this it?'

I suffer from recurrent depression and am on AD's. Like the previous poster, I also make it my mission to pursue contentment. Not happiness as such, because happiness can be fleeting. Contentment lasts a lot longer.

It's hard in today's climate to get a good work/home balance, when a lot of people are living pay check to pay check. But sometimes for the good of your mental health, a better balance just has to be found.

My first episode of depression was all consuming and honestly, terrifying. I was a lone parent to 4dc, 2 with ASD and they were young. I also worked sometimes 50 - 60 hours a week as a manager. At one point I worked six weeks straight without a day off. I just kind of broke I suppose.

Although depression is a horrendous illness to have, I do feel it's taught me how to appreciate life and how important good mental health is.

I am married now and my DH works full time, I stay at home and sell my art work, I don't make a lot, but it still feels I am contributing. I go to Uni after the summer.

Some things that helped me:

  • taking stock of my life and working out what I could do to make life less stressful. This included a better routine for myself such as making sure I ate regularly and drank enough. A better routine for my children. Changing jobs to one with less hours and making cut backs on spending to allow this.
  • cutting out as many things that made me sad as possible. No more listening to sad songs. No more watching or reading the news. Removing everyone but the most important people to me from FB, so less chance of seeing horrible videos and pictures. No more horror films.
  • rescuing an older dog. This obviously isn't for everyone but for me, it was a life changer. DDog was 10 when I brought him home, he is now 13 and has brought me so much happiness. Taking him for walks helps lift my mood and I use the opportunity to take photos on my phone of pretty things I see on my walk. If I am having a low day and cry, DDog just won't let me. He climbs on me and licks my face until I end up laughing.
  • finding a hobby. Whilst looking for ways to calm an anxious mind, I came across mandala stones. They were so pretty, I decided I wanted to have a go making one, despite not having an artistic bone in my body. The tiny dots and patterns require a lot of focus, basically mindfulness without realising it! That hobby is now what I sell too.
  • gratitude journaling. I know it seems a little cliche, but really, keeping a gratitude journal is basically a form of CBT. It teaches you to find the positives from negatives, instead of just negatives. At the end of the day, I write down the things about my day that I am thankful for and it helps life become a little brighter.
  • trying to live day to day. It's so easy to start worrying about things that are months away and that just ruins the days beforehand. If I can't immediately solve something, then I don't let myself dwell on it. I remind myself that things I am worried about won't be the same things I will be worried about in say, another months time.
  • reminding myself of the good things still to come, maybe. Such as my children getting married one day. Becoming a grandmother maybe. Watching and supporting my children as they go through first loves and first losses. Yes, having children can be unbelievably hard some days, but the rewards are massive. They really are.

Despite all that, there are still days where the depression wins, even with the meds I'm on to help keep it at bay. And on those days life feels cruel, I wonder what I've brought my children into, and the world is just a dark place. But I tell myself that it's just a bad day. Not a bad life.

RemainOptimistic · 27/04/2018 08:22

OP you sound totally overinvested in your job.

Afraid of what you will do financially without the large paycheck coming in

Afraid of who you will be without the prestige and respect of the position

Afraid of what you will find to occupy your intelligence and skills if you aren't achieving and planning all day long at work

As pp said, having a great life or a crap life on paper is not related to the actual joy or crappiness levels of that life.

You need to build an identity that is not based on your job.

MysweetAudrina · 27/04/2018 08:37

I think life is what you make it and there is enough out there to make it good. Of course sometimes it is better than others but you have to make time to do the things that make it better for you. I had a tough few months this year. We have 5 kids and both work fulltime. I was studying also up until December. I went to my GP before Christmas as my anxiety had gotten unmanageable for me. Once I started feeling a bit more in control I decided to join a yoga studio. It means getting up at 6am and having the kids lunches and everything prepared the night before. Traffic is much lighter at this time so I can get into work in 30 mins and do yoga from 7-8. I have also started to clean up my diet, not following a particular diet but just eating good I enjoy that is good for my body. Today I am off work and so are the kids so we will get out for a walk and maybe go for a swim. I don't think life gets easier I think you have to put your well being to the forefront and make the best of what s available to you.

MinaPaws · 27/04/2018 08:37

@Whenthereshope - your dad sounds lovely, and so wise. It's true. And often, it's only when we look back after having worked so hard we're gasping for breath, that we think: Oh, that was worth it.

OP You'll look back and get such an enormous burst if pride at your achievement: you worked so hard to provide for your family - your raised your DC and you retrained in a professional. I wonder if you give yourself enough pats on the back for that, and recognition for how hard you work and how well you've done. To me you sound awesom (and I don't mean that in the slack jawed ossome South Park way, I mean, I'm in awe of your strength of character. But it gets a bit joyless if no one ever tells you you're amazing, when you are slogging day in day out. So, at the risk of sounding cheesy, tell yourself. Reward yourself. Not with wine (well, not only with wine Wink) but tell yourself, in your mind: good job. Good work. God, you do a brilliant job of providing single handed for the family. And then add a physical celebration of what you've done. Buy yourself flowers or take DC out for dinner. I find it helps massively to actively, consciously think, as you sit round the pizzeria table: we can afford this because I put in ecxtra hours this week.

@CollyWobbles
*"Although depression is a horrendous illness to have, I do feel it's taught me how to appreciate life and how important good mental health is." I second that. It wasn't until it almost killed me that I realised I could never conquer it, I had to learn to live with it, and learn to use it to teach me how to live. Depression has made me deeply conscious and appreciative of the tiny joys of every day life, and it's forced me to work really hard at being a great mum. My deepest fear was that I'd turn into the kind of depressive mum Victoria Wood, the comedian had, who was always in bed, never took an interest in her daughter or helped her out. It's taught me some good tricks on how to enjoy ordinary life even when it's tough.

MinaPaws · 27/04/2018 08:39

@CollyWombles - I love your list. Sounds like we've been on similar journeys to claw back happiness in life despite depression. I agree with everything you've listed. This small stuff works. It really helps.

Bluntness100 · 27/04/2018 08:46

I also had a terrible childhood and quite frankly anything is better than that. As such I tend to be happy, feel lucky, and I count my blessings and look at the positives.

You're an adult and you're in control. You are employed, have a roof over your head, are not hungry and you have kids who love you and who you love, and you all have your health.

Instead of focusing on the negatives, think of the positives in your life.

EasterRobin · 27/04/2018 08:57

You should ask this question on Gransnet instead - they are a bit further along so should know the answer. Do come back and tell us though! (Unless it's bad news... Then maybe come back and lie)

GreyCloudsToday · 27/04/2018 08:58

Glad it's not just me.

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