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my husband is being a dick

138 replies

TotHappy · 21/04/2018 12:33

I've posted about my husband before. We're not really very compatible and have had a rocky 10 years of marriage, bit love things about each other as well and wanted to make it work. So we had lots of ups and downs.
I feel like I'm nearing the end of my tether now and as close as I've ever been to asking him to leave - the trouble is, i cant understand how he thinks he's eight and he can't understand how i think I'm right. Meaningful discussion is very difficult because we're both utterly frustrated and pissed off with the other so not really listening. Some perspective would be useful as he definitely thinks IABU.

The issue is he thinks I am controlling and I think he is disrespectful. This manifests in lots of ways but one example is the row that blew up yesterday. He had planned to go out with a friend straight from work, said he'd only be half an hour then home. Yesterday morning i asked when he planned to be home and he said he'd prob stay about an hour then come home. I clarified so will you be home for tea? And he said yes.
After work he popped home first to change car for bike, me and dd were in the garden, it was literally 5 mins, he gave us both a kiss and i asked again when to expect him... He said an hour, but as he was cycling it'd be a bit longer so again I clarified 'about half 7 then? We'll have dinner for then' and he agreed.
When there was no sign of him at 7.45 i rang and asked if he was on his,way, he said no but he'd leave in 10 mins, is that alright? I said we're hungry and he said start without me, i said can't you cone now and he said no so i said fine, see you soon. I wasn't happy but i wasn't going to make a massively big deal it of it.
He came home at 8.30, so we'd finished tea, i was playing with dd before bed. He came in and put her to bed, i put the TV on, was on my phone. I was pissed off with him so didn't say much but didn't blank him, just didn't feel like a conversation. So he watched TV, we each made a few comments, etc. Late in the eve he asked if i was ok, i said yeah, I'm alright, he asked a couple more times so i said yeah, I'm a bit mis but I'm alright. He said is it because i spent Friday evening out with mate and I said it's not because you went out no, it's because you changed three times the time you were coming home and then didn't even,stick to the last agreed, it's,a very long time for me with dd by myself from 6.30am.
He followed,me outside for a smoke and was obviously fuming and in a nutshell saying that he went out, plans changed, so fucking what? He would never care if i did that', he would be happy for me, and what could have been a nice evening for us is ruined by me 'aggressing' him. I dont think i was aggressive at all, i was clearly pissed off with him and not in a mood for talking which i know seems passive aggressive but i didn't want to talk because he'd been drinking and i knew it would turn to a row. Which it instantly did. He created a row instead of just letting me leave it to simmer down and get my shit together. I said i feel disrespected because he's saying his time and convenience is more important than mine, if i dont like it - 'so the fuck what?'
I went to bed, took the car keys with me as he has a history of drink driving, he asked if i had them and i said yes, he said why, i said to stop you driving, he was enraged but said he wanted something from the car. I said id get it, he insisted, i said he could have them if he brought them back after he'd got it, he eventually agreed to this and did so after another long rant about how I'm belittling him, im controlling, i have no right to put him n that position.
I found a text this morning sent at 1am reiterating all that about me being controlling, belittling, ruining the eve. I'm sick to death of this shit.
AIBU?

OP posts:
ScabbyHorse · 22/04/2018 07:31

I feel for you in this situation and also feel you are probably codependent with him. He is an alcoholic, and you are trying to manage this on your own. I really believe you should try counselling on your own and also try to find out who you are and why you are attracted to this dynamic. I speak from experience in that I was in a similar situation a few years ago. It is very difficult.

Els1e · 22/04/2018 07:40

You are his wife not his mother. Have a look at transactional analysis. He is acting like a child because you are acting like his parent. If you want an adult relationship, both of you need to change behaviour.

Cornishclio · 22/04/2018 08:23

FWIW if my DH had been out all day at work and then meeting a friend and I had been on my own with a small child I would have left him to sort his own dinner out then you would not have had the issue about timings. I am used to my DH working erratic hours and it would not bother me if he was late back. I know some marriages though where both partners need to know where each other is every minute of the day. Both DH and I would find that claustrophobic and controlling so I guess you need to both manage your expectations of each other better.

Re the drinking I would not engage with anyone drunk so I would have gone off and left him to it. I am not sure about the keys thing either but if he is the type to drink and drive that would be a big no no for me and I would not be with him anyway. It sounds like you were treating him like a child but he is acting like an idiot so I can't see anyway this will end well. A serious chat about the state of your marriage and how you can both respect each other better is a good idea.

Whatshallidonowpeople · 22/04/2018 08:27

You sound controlling. Let the man go out. And 2 hours is a long time for you to be on your own with the child? How needy are You?

Cornishclio · 22/04/2018 08:33

Actually it is 14 hours on her own from 6.30 am which is I guess when OPs husband went to work.

OP do you get to go out with your friends or do you work part time or full time? My husband worked long hours and when my D.C. were about 2 and 4 I returned to part time work as otherwise I had no adult company unless I did baby groups every day which I found boring. Working part time gave me another outlet other than my DH and another set of friends and some sort of social life. I never think it is a good idea to rely only on ones partner for adult company. It also meant at the weekends my DH had to look after the children sometimes which as he spent little time with them during the week I felt was only fair.

KingLooieCatz · 22/04/2018 09:16

WTF? When did Op tell him when to come back? He said he'd be half an hour, then he said it would be an hour, then he was late for that.

If you were meeting a friend you'd agree a time and if they kept changing and then was late you'd be right to be pissed off, not because you expect to tell them what to do but because an expectation was mutually agreed.

Don't know why so many people are being harsh on Op.

TotHappy · 22/04/2018 10:13

6.30am is when my daughter got up. He got up later and left for work almost straight away without seeing us, hence me being in charge of her for 14 hours. She is nearly 2. - and yes, I do feel the want of adult company. This is why the car thing particularly annoys me (him taking it rather than cycling I mean).
I do work part time, 8-12 hours a week but only 4 hours in the office, the rest is from home. And I'm usually in the office on my own.

I didn't tell him when to come home. But I feel disrespected when he doesn't even call or text to say he'll be late after arranging a time. It just wouldn't even occur to me to do that to anyone - standing people up is rude. If I lost track of time and came in late I would be very apologetic. He seems to have a real problem with apologies. I feel trampled on all over again this morning. I got up to find he had unplugged my phone from charger so he could charge his when he came in last night so it's not charged at all all night. I just looked at him questioningly and he said 'in my defence, i meant to plug it back in earlier'. I snapped back 'well you didn't ' and he snapped 'well, I apologise'. Now in an ideal world, I wouldn't have snapped, but that was not an apology. If you accidentally do something to inconvenience someone else,surely the first response when you realise is 'Oh, sorry!' Why can't he do that?

It's as if he's implying that any feeling I have at all about things he does that affect me - any reaction to his actions - is critical and out of order. Me just feeling upset or annoyed or disrespected is apparently an attack on him. I'm so confused.

PP who said about codependency - no, I have never been to AA. What is it that makes you think he's an alcoholic?

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0hCrepe · 22/04/2018 10:35

It's as if he's implying that any feeling I have at all about things he does that affect me - any reaction to his actions - is critical and out of order. Me just feeling upset or annoyed or disrespected is apparently an attack on him. I'm so confused.

this is exactly the same for me in our relationship. And when he feels criticised/attacked he attacks me, using verbal abuse etc including saying I’m abusive. No help sorry just someone in the same boat.
I love having time to myself so I encourage him to go out though! He finds it hard to go out without getting pissed though but suffers with hangovers for hours the next day. So it’s my fault that he chooses to go out because he might be hungover (because in the past I’ve been a bit annoyed that he’s been unable to move when he’s supposed to be working (self employed) but would never be able to take time out to help with something family related “because I’m working don’t you know, I do have to earn money”. Oh yes apart from when you’re dying from a self inflicted hangover. Priorities?

Sorry to join with my own rant!

0hCrepe · 22/04/2018 10:36

Chooses not to go out

RestingBitchFaced · 22/04/2018 10:48

So much of this reminds me of me and my ex. So glad I'm single now, and much happier. Do you get time to go out OP while he stays in with DC?

TotHappy · 22/04/2018 11:05

0hCrepe, it's hideous, isn't it. Yes, he has told me I'm abusive too, for denying him things. This is done to belittle and control him as I am abusive apparently.

RestingBitchFaced, I go out for a night with friends once every 2-3 months. He's fine with it. Once every 6 weeks or so he and I go out and my mum babysits. I never go out at no or short notice, unless I take dd with me. I wouldn't do that because I know how inconvenient it is! I could try it I suppose, it just feels rude and inconsiderate. Most of my friends live a distance away or have young kids and never go out. I was having a moan at an old friend the other day and she invited me to stay with her for the long weekend in May - she lives 5 hours away, I'd have to take the car, so he'd be on his own with dd for 2-3 days. I've been thinking i won't go, because that seems unfair, especially as I had a girls weekend away last month. But... Last month was my first ever. Maybe this would be fair enough, it's the same amount of time as he spends out, just lumped together. I just dont have the opportunities for more evenings out at home, plus if I tried to maintain a similar number of nights out as him, we would not be able to afford food!

OP posts:
TotHappy · 22/04/2018 11:16

Mine used to be self employed too. I know that argument so well, 'I'm too tired/ill to work', right so can you have dd for a minute/change a nappy/make tea/ shall we go for a walk? 'Can't , I'm working'. Hmm

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Motoko · 22/04/2018 13:09

Why do you keep trying? You're obviously not right for each other, he sounds like he doesn't want to be part of a family, with all the responsibilities that entails. So why keep flogging a dead horse?

If a relationship is right, it's not as hard as this. Yes, you have ups and downs even in a good relationship, but as a whole, it's good. There is mutual respect, loving and caring in a good relationship. You don't have that in yours.

You and DD would be better off on your own, but if you're going to insist on keeping on trying, you need to go back to counselling, and realise that if that still doesn't work, it's time to call it a day, as it's not fair on your DD to have to grow up with bickering parents.

PrizeOik · 22/04/2018 13:41

Al Anon is not AA.
AA is for problem drinkers, Al Anon is for the family and friends of drinkers and addicts in general. Those family and friends tend to develop a set of relationship behaviours known as "codependency". They can exist even when no alcohol is involved.

I don't know if your dh is an actual alcoholic or not (though his drink driving doesn't exactly bode well).

But what's clear as crystal is that you are using coping techniques and relationship dynamics in this situation that are out of the codependent textbook. And Al Anon is a place where codependents can learn to break their own addiction to those dynamics.

He behaves like a child and you try to beg, cajole, manipulate, pass-agg, explain calmly, "have a chat" etc when the terrible truth is that you need to accept that you can't mould him into a decent partner.

The only vote you can make here is with your feet. It's not meant to be this difficult op.

Lushy9 · 19/09/2018 21:44

So my husband has been away with work for 2 weeks only to come for 3 HOURS and scream at me because I don’t want to watch football and heaven forbid....talk and catch up! I am 3 months pregnant, sad and lonely. Talk to myself, deal with my first pregnancy worries and not ONE question but just aggravation. The icing on the cake is that he goes away again tomorrow on a stag party! He literally has zero fucks for how I feel, I don’t know if it’s the hormones but I’ve never hated someone so much right now!!!!!!

Lushy9 · 19/09/2018 21:46

Sorry to jump on your post but I can’t work out how to create a new one and this is my first time

jaxhwc · 20/09/2018 16:08

Hi lushy, sorry to hear that. He sounds very selfish and you are well within your rights to feel the way you do.

If you want to make your own post you need to go into the topic I.e 'relationships' then click 'start a new thread in this topic' (on the computer) if on your phone you go into the topic and then click the pencil icon (bottom right) and it will bring up the page where you write your post. Smile

Lethaldrizzle · 20/09/2018 16:22

I'd be pretty annoyed if I had to tell my dh exactly when I'm getting home

Dieu · 20/09/2018 17:04

I think you have been too much of a martyr over this. I honestly don't see it all as being such a big deal. Sorry. That said, I think parenthood does change things. You'd probably never have noticed his changing plans if it wasn't you stuck at home with a kid Smile and instead were blissfully reading on the sofa with a glass of wine or watching a box set or all the other stuff you loved to do in the glory days

Mydia · 22/07/2019 22:16

I came across this post because I googled "my husband is being a dick" 😊 He IS being a dick. Also, I am controlling. Sometimes, I need to vent at length. I also need to see that everyone is going through the same crap. It gives me the strength to keep going! Xxx

AmIRightOrAMeringue · 22/07/2019 22:32

I dont think you're controlling unless you make it clear he has to give you a time. If you asked what time he would be back and he said he wasnt sure what would you have done? I think knowing in advance that its open ended is ok and you'll see him when you see him. But in my opinion, cooking for someone else is a nice thing to do, it takes time and effort and it's very rude to say you'll eat with someone, knowing they're going to cook for you and leave them waiting until they contact you and only then say youd not be home.

This comes up quite a bit on AIBU for friends when one friend feels like they are making all the effort and cooks for the other who is late or doesnt turn up and everyone says they're not a friend and to drop them!

So he is rude to you and then gets even ruder when you get upset

The going out a few nights in a row and then taking the car when you needed it, does seem like he likes things his own way

NCforthis2019 · 22/07/2019 22:40

fundamentally - you both sound about 16 and not compatible in the slightest, you being controlling and him goading you into an argument. You have all but checked out and he has gone on the defensive. This is no way to live - and please dont stay together for your child. Either go for counselling and see if you both can change, or make plans to parent the child. You are just too different as individuals.

Name7 · 22/07/2019 22:52

Given this is from 15 months ago, I think she’s made a decision one way or another.

Damntheman · 22/07/2019 23:40

Good grief some of these responses are shocking!! If he didn't want to be held to a time to be home he shouldn't have said he'd be home for tea. If someone is cooking for you then you owe them the respect to be there when you said you'd be.

He was rude AF and I'd also be angry. Sure plans can change but then you need to have the courtesy to inform the person who is waiting for you of said change. You're not unreasonable or controlling to be upset OP

Damntheman · 22/07/2019 23:41

Oh poo. Zombie thread :(