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To not understand the heavy makeup trend

307 replies

Moment1000 · 19/04/2018 01:59

ie girls in their teens and 20s caked in heavy stage like make up with extremely heavy eyeshadow and false lashes- for during the day as well ! Wonder how long this trend will last..

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NotACleverName · 20/04/2018 20:55

If they wear their makeup like that to look good and attract the opposite sex, they're seriously wasting their time.

Thank god for that!

squiz81 · 20/04/2018 20:59

I think snapchat filters have also had a part to play. People are so used to seeing themselves with heavily filtered faces they don't like how they look normally.

GerardButlersBird · 20/04/2018 21:05

I’m in my 20’s and wear a full face of makeup that people probably think is caked on , I cannot for the life of me stand my own face when I look in the mirror it helps me out the door otherwise I’d be sitting at home depressed about how ugly I am so don’t judge

Agree with this exactly except I’m in my 40s. Hate how I look and my makeup is my mask.. my confidence.. and it pleases me to paint a different look on the uninspiring canvas of my natural face.. which changes how I look and how I feel. Plus I LIKE makeup (I wear extremely cheap makeup from Primark but I don’t think expensive makeup is needed or necessary). My kids are all but grown now but somehow I found the time, despite being sleep deprived for many years when they were growing due to an SN DS, to keep applying it. They made it even more necessary somehow...

My DP and DD have both told me quite recently that they prefer how I look without my winged eyeliner. DD (bless her, age 19) said my eyes are pretty and look lovely in just a bit of eyeshadow and mascara. DP agreed and this had given me the confidence to sometimes have “my minimal makeup” look at the weekends. And on holiday (like now) when I have a bit of a tan on my face, I wear even less.

But for work I wear my full face of makeup and probably always will. DP who works at same place, not unkindly calls this my “scary eyeliner look” and thinks it makes me appear to be somebody other than who I really am.. the “whole/real me”.. not just my work persona. But that’s fine by me. And he completely understands why I do it. The “work me” isn’t unkind.. she just takes less crap than the real me, as needed.

By the way “expressing bafflement” over this IS judging. It is. It’s implying that you just can’t understsnd why some of us would need to paint our faces as we do.. that it is unnecessary. Well to you it may be.. to us it isn’t

BitchQueen90 · 20/04/2018 21:18

I can't be bothered with loads of makeup these days but I give them more credit than wanting to do it to "attract the opposite sex." Thanks to social media a lot of people carve out successful careers from being very talented at makeup. The more followers you get online the more noticed you get.

Hereiam1980 · 20/04/2018 22:05

No one was ‘bullying’ just expressing an opinion. I’m not a fan either, I presume those who do it do because, it’s the trend, don’t feel secure about their looks...?

starlight13 · 20/04/2018 22:55

What is it with the eyebrow thing?
Seriously, if anyone does this can they explain the reason why. I don't mean a little eyebrow pencil used lightly to enhance the brows but they even go to the lengths to shave/pluck them off to then draw back on a ridiculous clown line of a brow which looks like a Hitler tash gone wrong x 2 slapped over their eyes.
I wish they would realise how ridiculous and desperate they look.
The worrying part though is if they are caking all this on in a bid to make their faces 'look more attractive', imagine how utterly awful they must look with no make up on.
I may sound a bit harsh but it is such a desperate way to want to look.

Lookatmeimsandradeeee · 20/04/2018 23:03

‘Contouring’ is the one that gets me. Looks great in photos. Looks like a zombie film in real life.

JoyceDivision · 20/04/2018 23:15

Rimmel heather shimmer - definately the 90s! That was the go to lipstick of the cool make upkids in high school mid 90s! Along with overplucked brows and hair with fringe sprayed up and over and sprayed stuck out at side Grin

Kaybush · 20/04/2018 23:23

I haven't read the whole thread but IME every young women I know who's been on Instagram for a few years is doing it so they're selfie-ready.

What looks ridiculous in real life comes across as just 'groomed' on Instagram. It's just a sign of the times I guess.

Makeupfanatic · 20/04/2018 23:31

I am 21 and you have to remember that women my age are under much more pressure and scrutiny to look a certain way then previous generations of women are, thanks in part to the explosion of social media. This is a massive factor - we grew up with social media and the expectation to share and post your life and be attractive or else feel like an outcast. We are on a completely different platform

Go on instagram and instantly feel inadequate about how you look thanks to all the 10/10s bloggers on your explore page or forced on your home page thanks to Instagram analytics. Go on YouTube and see videos on how you should be applying your makeup and the steps you must take and the 100 products you need. What are women who are insecure about their appearance supposed to do? Damned if they don’t, damned if they do really? As people like you are ready and frothing at the mouth to critique

I think you also have to understand that this is the ‘new normal’ for us (us being women my age) - it’s the current trend, just like how other generations have iconic looks from their youth. Also do bare in mind that some of us simply enjoy makeup and aren’t insecure. I may go out with rose gold eyeshadow that takes me just 5 minutes to apply, not because my natural eyelid colour depresses me but because I enjoy experimenting and trying new products. (And of course, I look fabulous darling.)

userxx · 20/04/2018 23:36

@Makeupfanatic well said 👍 so glad I grew up I'm the 80's though. It was all about Frosted lipstick and electric blue mascara back then 😈

Kaybush · 20/04/2018 23:40

@Makeupfanatic Yes I've been mind-boggled by various YouTube vloggers' make-up tutorials - 15 products to enhance their skin alone before they even get to their eyes or lips. It's exhausting to watch!

TheTroutofNoCraic · 20/04/2018 23:44

MakeupFanatic
I agree with what you are saying in principle.
But it's so bloody depressing that young women and girls feel they have to conform to this pressure. Doing it because you like it/gain enjoyment from it is quite another thing from doing it because you feel you have to.
But it is also true that, whilst social media wasn't there to document or spread the ideas as widely, every generation of women on Mumsnet will have had a 'look' ascribed to their era...and there will have been people who thought it looked ridiculous in their time as well.

masterchef98 · 20/04/2018 23:53

:-)

SarfE4sticated · 20/04/2018 23:58

I think what upsets me, is that you know underneath all of that overpriced sparkly stuff, is beautiful unlined gorgeous skin. I wish that they could enhance their natural youth and beauty, instead of completely obliterating it to look like everyone else.

I know we all had parents and grandparents who said the same to us, but still, it feels poignant the older one gets.

Moole · 21/04/2018 00:50

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Just as someone like myself, who has suffered with dreadful acne since my mid teens ( and now scars), is entitled to wear make up. I would probably be one of those people you a referring to, but it's the only thing that gives me confidence to go out of the house.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 21/04/2018 08:05

Moole, I am one of those who doesn’t understand this drag queen look. I’m also one of those who has poor skin and wear makeup every single day. I even put it on when I went into labour in the early hours, just before I headed to the hospital! I understand the need to conceal problem skin, that’s understandable.

What I don’t understand is why EVERYTHING is so heavily applied, to a set of instructions, so that everyone looks like they’re wearing the same stage makeup. I like seeing different makeup on people, I don’t like the lack of individuality, personally. He

LimonViola · 21/04/2018 08:23

19/04/2018 08:16 OliviaBenson

I don't wear make up at all and find that some people that do judge me for that.

I find it very sad that many women have such low self esteem that they feel they need make up to even pop out to the shops. I hate the full on make up trend too. Women should be proud of their natural beauty!

Women "should" be proud of their natural beauty eh? Why do you feel you have the right to dictate what women 'should' be proud of? How about "women should be able to feel proud of how they look whether they're makeup free or have mad skills they enjoy practicing and want to take the end result outside" or even better "what women do with their faces and what they should be proud of is nobody's business but their own"?

This thread is full of people who have no clue of the wider context these heavily made up girls/women/boys/men are part of. It's a hobby for some of them. They spend a lot of their free time reading reviews, watching tutorials on makeup looks, some film their makeup routine to help others, experimenting with different looks from 'natural' to 'drag' and everything in between.

It's not necessarily down to insecurity. I would be surprised if it is in the majority of cases given how many women wear makeup. I am someone who goes out with a full face of makeup every day, though I tend to eschew the strong brows and contour looks. I have zero problems with self esteem, and happily go out bare faced if I'm in a rush, but guess what? I ENJOY makeup. I really do. I love taking that half hour to myself between showering and going out to play with products and decide how I'm going to look today. It's fun. It's creative. It's a chance to be creative in a low stakes way, makeup washes off!

All this sneering about a fashion trend that isn't exactly new on the block is just nasty and an excuse to have a pop at women doing something you don't think they should be doing (aimed at plenty of PPs on this thread). All this faux 'why on earth do they do it?' is disingenuous, it doesn't take more than a second to realise it's because 'they enjoy it' and all of our tastes are different.

Purplealienpuke · 21/04/2018 08:27

I find the very dark thick eyebrows distracting if I'm speaking to somebody. I'm definitely NOT judging people's choices, it's just my opinion.
I saw Angela Rippon on the tv the other day. Her make up artist seemed to me to have got it quite wrong, her blusher was very dark compared to the rest of her make up. She is a stunning looking lady, imo, and I felt that was slightly misguided.
I am a non make up wearer. I really CBA . My skin is ok, I don't have too many wrinkles (just yet) and now I'm hot flushing every 5 mins it would be absolutely pointless!
If my 20 something dd took the latest trend of heavy contouring and too dark foundation I think I would have a gentle conversation with her about it.

LimonViola · 21/04/2018 08:41

Yesterday 19:58 MrsSmile

I was on a course with 3 newly qualified social workers in their early 29s who all had eyelash extensions, fake tan, jet black hair and loads of make up.

I wondered how any parent they were going to assess would actually take them seriously.

Surprised this gem has passed everyone on the thread by.

Perhaps the parents they'll be working with:

  • don't judge someone's professional capability by their appearance
  • look just like this themselves anyway so breaks down the power barriers just a bit
  • would prefer to work with a social worker who seems more down to earth/less stuffy than the stereotypical middle class social worker in a long floaty skirt (a stereotype I hear from people a lot when they're about to work with SS)

But don't let that get in the way of having a nice sneer at the appearance of young female professionals who are new to the workforce and perfectly qualified to do what they're employed to do.

Tweez · 21/04/2018 08:54

So many can’t be asked to put makeup on, on this thread. Says it all.

SukiTheDog · 21/04/2018 08:58

I have a social worker. My son is disabled. I don’t care what she wears in terms of clothes and makeup. I’m just relieved to have her because she makes a lot of sense and gets on with the job. Previously, we had a Family Support Worker who, when I saw his car pull up, my heart would sink. He was utterly useless.

I wear makeup every day. I love doing it. It’s about 10 mins to apply. And I love shopping for it. It’s a luxury I can just about afford where I can’t just go out and drop £1000 on a bag. It’s surprisingly uplifting wearing a new No7 lippie! Judge me if you wish. My life’s hard enough....I don’t care.

CookPassBabtridge · 21/04/2018 09:31

I don't care what people wear, I really don't give a shit. I did get a shock when I went to Knowsley safari in Liverpool on a bright sunny morning and everywhere I turned there were orange faces, black thick eyebrows, thick eye makeup and hair extensions! Only because I've only ever seen it on instagram through filtered photos. Good for them having the confidence to look how they want.

Bubba1234 · 21/04/2018 09:32

If you have an opinion on mn it means your judging Hmm
You can dislike heaving make up & think it looks silly.
It’s not judging the person that’s wearing it. Its simply not liking the makeup. Jaysus.

MaisyPops · 21/04/2018 09:35

bubba hits the nail on the head.

It's fine to have an opinion on your neighbour parking 2ft closer to your house than you like, but don't in any way have a view of make up. You judgey bitches. Grin

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