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AIBU to ask if the English are judgemental against people speaking improper English?

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ConfusedWife1234 · 15/04/2018 21:01

Hey,
I am not a native speaker and I always wondered how English people think about people who make grammatical or other errors when speaking/writing their language. So far most did not say a thing but what are they thinking?

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Igneococcus · 17/04/2018 08:59

@Igneococcus Just googled ricket and syphilis just to find out how common the expression English/French desease is. Does not seem to uncommon, look it up...

I believe you when you say this is what it is called where you are from. I just have never heard it used where I'm from. We always called rickets Rachitis and syphillis by its proper name.
There are huge differences in language between the different regions in Germany. Years ago Spiegel had a link to a test that determined where you are from based on what word/phrase you'd use for certain things and it put me within about 20 km of my hometown and it deviated in a straight line towards the town where my mother is from. Not sure I can find the test again but it was interesting.

ThanksForAllTheFish · 17/04/2018 09:39

The only illness / disease I can think of that we would attatch the name of a country to is German Measles (Rubella).

Ishouldntbesolucky · 18/04/2018 00:00

That Spiegel link is fascinating. I took the test just out of interest (not a native German!) I thought I might break it because although I've lived in Austria, I use more standard German usually. Anyway, it gave me a town really quite near to where I used to be! I'm amazed.

I'd love it if there was a similar test for English. Language is so fascinating.

DixieFlatline · 18/04/2018 00:24

Rickets is also known as the English sickness (engelsk syge) in Danish. Wikipedia suggests Danes used to refer to syphilis as the French illness as well, though I had to look it up to learn that.

ThanksForAllTheFish · 18/04/2018 01:33

ConfusedWife1234

So I have got a question: if the English accent is seen as polite and soft but non-assertive by Germans, do Brits see the German accent as impolite, hard and assertive then?

I think German accents can sound quite gutteral rather than impolite or hard. I know German people can pronouce the ch sound in the word Loch properly where as a lot of English people can not.

I’ve only really traveled around Bavaria though so not heard lots of different dialects to properly say, I’m sure some German accents do sound quite hard.

I know that if I am listening to say, Du Hast by Rammstein (usually at full volume) I can find the accent quite hard and assertive. By comparison something like Hier Kommt Alex by Die Toten Hosen sounds much softer (even though the subject/sentiment of the song is just as strong)

hellokittymania · 18/04/2018 01:38

I love the city, I am a native speaker, but speak nine other languages, including Vietnamese. Yes, it's true, so many people judge people who speak English as a second language for making the tiniest of mistakes, yet they can't speak another language Or make an effort to do so. A friend of mine who works at Café Nero who is Italian gets corrected all the time, yet native English speakers cannot say Gianduiotti o ciabatta . And it's not Panini, by the way, in Italian, the proper word for a sandwich is panino. Panini is plural.

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