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To wish the grand national wasnt an event

197 replies

Dineout112 · 14/04/2018 09:05

I hate it as so many horses get badly injured or even killed . I don’t know how people can enjoy it 🙁

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mellowyellow2018 · 14/04/2018 14:31

The real winners are the horse owners who are mostly million/billionaire’s and the betting firms. - this is pretty well known.

And yes the rich are laughing at the drunk poor people who spend all their money at the races. Have you never seen the yearly daily mail article for the national?

Whatsforu · 14/04/2018 14:31

Racehorses are amazing athletes. If you don't agree with the sport don't watch it. You are not going to stop it with your yearly cry of ban the national!!!!

mellowyellow2018 · 14/04/2018 14:33

I know one or two people with those posh hats and yes they are poor!

How much did that racehorse recently go for 30 million was it?

mellowyellow2018 · 14/04/2018 14:33

I quite like racing by the way - I know the horses love it, I just don’t like the event itself!

FourFriedChickensDryWhiteToast · 14/04/2018 14:35

well ye there is cash in racing no doubt...
but so there is in football ..with human players being bought and sold for huge amounts...

mellowyellow2018 · 14/04/2018 14:36

FourFriedChickensDryWhiteToast

Good point, I hate premiership football too! That’s absolutely a tax on the poor.

sweetkitty · 14/04/2018 14:39

I agree OP hate it as well.

BananasAreTheSourceOfEvil · 14/04/2018 14:42

Im genuinely confused as to how this is a tax on the poor. Be it football or racing.

Nobody knocks on their door and says 'it's that time of year again: Cheltenham's on so pony up what you owe'.

Pun totally intended.

Iooselipssinkships · 14/04/2018 14:45

Thick as mince? Charming. I like to think of myself as that extra lean Aberdeen Angus good shit in that case.
Everyone here has probably eaten horse in their lasanges/soya milk at some point.

XiCi · 14/04/2018 14:49

Tax on the poor? What total, patronising bullshit.

AlfieTheRailwayCat · 14/04/2018 14:55

Have you ever ridden a horse that loves to jump OP? Because I have and I assure you that some of them absolutely love to jump. I’m not sure I always agree with how many horses start and obviously injuries happen as with all sport. But that doesn’t mean all jumping should be banned. These horses are incredible athletes and receive 100 five star care all year roun.

mellowyellow2018 · 14/04/2018 14:56

It’s not bullshit. If you take time to think about it, you will realise it’s very accurate!

BananasAreTheSourceOfEvil · 14/04/2018 14:58

MellowYellow Im actually (not being sarcastic) curious as to how this is a tax on the poor?

mellowyellow2018 · 14/04/2018 15:04

Well in football the cost to attend a match is absolutely ridiculous.

The people who own the clubs and make the money are rich rich rich, they keep pushing up prices this forcing loyal fans to pay ridiculous amounts to attend. It’s a tax on the poor.

mellowyellow2018 · 14/04/2018 15:04

Thus*

XiCi · 14/04/2018 15:05

How would you suggest that the 'poor' spend their money then mellowyellow. Do you think that you should have to earn a certain salary before you can enjoy a day at the races or a football match?

mellowyellow2018 · 14/04/2018 15:06

Nope I think us poor people should stop lining the pockets of tax dogging footballers, football club owners, betting companies and the race horse owning super rich.

DumbleDee · 14/04/2018 15:06

YANBU I hate it

mellowyellow2018 · 14/04/2018 15:07

Dodging*

XiCi · 14/04/2018 15:11

But not everyone who goes to a match or bets on horse race is poor. Not by a long shot. Everything is extortionate in this country unfortunately but they could sell the tickets to a premiership match many times over. And what makes you think all the drunk people in the DM at races are poor? People with alot of spare cash get pissed as well

shakingmyhead1 · 14/04/2018 15:20

Im not sure about the UK but ive been to racing stables here in NZ and the race horses ( and their paddock mates) are treated like royalty and to be honest they act like dainty little primadonnas if they arent ( and on occasion have tantrums) many live in heated stables, cleaned twice a day, fed on fresh cut grass and some sort of warmed mash when its cold (very picky lot) see a vet, farrier and horse dentist more often then most "pet or working" horses, get washed daily and go out for warm up jogs and if they are lucky for a run ( you should see them when they line up for a run they are almost "revving their engines as it were" they love what they do and if they are unhappy they let you know! if they dont want to run they wont! ( especially the thoroughbreds)

Saltcrust · 14/04/2018 15:25

Thanks for your reply Chrys2017

I very much agree that the mental welfare of every horse is paramount and the NH that I am involved in have the opportunity to do all those things you mention on a fairly regular basis.

For sure it is a professional business and they have a training schedule (albeit with a long summer break as previously mentioned) but I was recently on a stable visit where I was shown how each individual horse's programme was broken down in minute detail (and it really was in miniscule detail and went far beyond just exercise and feeding) to ensure that each unique horse's optimum requirements for mental and physical health were met.

Admittedly, the mental welfare of horses in training was not very enlightened in the past (as was the husbandry of many different sorts of animals) but huge strides have been taken in this area of late.

Equally huge strides have been taken in the retraining and rehoming of racehorses. Have a look at this website and all of the different activities that ex racehorses are involved in nowadays.

In fact there was a parade at Aintree just a few days ago featuring 10 ex racehorses, each of which have found a new career path here!.

Btw, one of the horses, Mad Moose, is the horse referred to in this thread who demonstrated that you can't make a 500Kg animal do something that it doesn't want to! Mad Moose was notorious for "planting" (not starting or moving on the track) and has recently taken to dressage instead!

Saltcrust · 14/04/2018 15:32

As for the rich/poor comments - I am not sure how relevant that is to a thread about horse welfare - but there are thousands and thousands of us "ordinary" folk involved in syndicates and racing clubs who love their racing and pay a very modest amount each year in to the pot.

Incidentally - the one I am involved with anyway - includes members who are absolutely potty about individual horses, love the sport, are absolutely passionate about the welfare of racehorses overall.

Let's face it, unless you are a top trainer or jockey or a hugely rich owner, you are very much likely to be poorly paid working in racing - and for very long hours. Believe me, you are not doing it for the money. So a shout out for all those grooms and stable lads and lasses who are working their socks off at Aintree today (race is at 5.15 pm and many of them will have had 5 am starts) who love their charges are working bloody hard to ensure their best care and welfare.

Saltcrust · 14/04/2018 15:49

In summary, if anyone on here wants to turn their attention to horse welfare, then start campaigning and raising money for the many privately owned horses and ponies left to fester on their own in muddy fields without shelter or clean water or company, left abandoned by the side of the road, or sold off to market at the age of 19 once their perceived riding "value" has been exploited. Or raise money or volunteer at the many excellent (and struggling) horse rescue centres around the UK.

Andrewofgg · 14/04/2018 16:17

mellowyellow Tax is money you are forced to pay. You are not forced to go to football or bet on the horses. So the cost of doing so is not a tax.

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