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We stand at a tipping point: do we fire up the popcorn maker or start digging a fallout shelter in the garden? (Trump cont)

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boatyardblues · 10/04/2018 22:01

Old thread here: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3207431-When-a-nation-s-children-marched-and-their-President-ignored-them-Trump-cont

I’m all out of inspiration for the rest of this opening post. Send the St Bernard with the brandy please.

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cozietoesie · 12/04/2018 23:18

It surely can, Across. But a little less than this time last year, I think?

And there are a great many watchers. Smile

cozietoesie · 12/04/2018 23:21

Out of interest, what do you think if someone - in an ordinary way of things ie not a deeply constitutional case - pleads the Fifth? Smile

Quantumblue · 12/04/2018 23:27

Apparently trump asked Comey to investigate the pee tape even though it never happened, in order to 'reassure Melania'.
WTF.

cozietoesie · 12/04/2018 23:42

That would be a fair enough excuse, I reckon.

DisgraceToTheYChromosome · 12/04/2018 23:50

Pleading the Fifth gets the accused off the hook, but then the prosecutor will immunise them and compel testimony. If Cohen calculates throwing Trump overboard saves him from 30 years in a state prison, not Club Fed...

TheClaws · 12/04/2018 23:59

GOP can’t make it’s mind up.

thehill.com/homenews/senate/382944-gop-fractures-over-push-to-protect-russia-probe

TheClaws · 13/04/2018 00:13

Meanwhile in North Korea: Don’t be deceived by the supposed new calm on the Korean Peninsula. NK only wish it on their terms and reject any form of “capitalist” intrusion into their society. The current situation is fragile and would not withstand a Trump barging in. (A reminder, too, NK’s Day of the Sun on April 15 is approaching - you know how I think NK likes to celebrate.)

Double-Dealing Attitude Will Never Succeed: KCNA Commentary

Pyongyang, April 12 (KCNA) -- Some days ago, the UN Security Council which kowtows to the U.S. included more DPRK-flagged vessels and transport and trading corporations in the "sanctions list", the largest of its kind in history, under the pretext of "violation of resolutions on sanctions on the DPRK".

What is disgusting here is the south Korean authorities' attitude of currying favor with their master U.S., as they praised the step as an "expression of the will to honor the implementation of the sanctions resolutions".

The U.S. and the forces following it have recently insisted that the present situation on the Korean peninsula is a clear proof that the sanctions on the DPRK are paying off and that the sanctions have to be maintained. Against this backdrop, they worked out the largest-ever "sanctions list" and the south Korean authorities took the lead in "supporting" it. This is double-dealing acts of having an axe to grind despite outward smile.

Today the Koreans' desire for improved north-south ties and reunification has gained momentum. Much upset by this, outsiders have become frantic in their moves to stifle the DPRK while deliberately chilling the atmosphere for national reconciliation and unity.

At this time, the south Korean authorities are supporting the U.S. racket for stifling their fellow countrymen by adopting a trite stance. This can not but be a crime before the nation who wishes for the lasting peace on the Korean peninsula and independent reunification through national cooperation.

The favorable atmosphere created on the Korean peninsula is never attributable to the sanctions by the U.S. and its vassal forces.

The reconciliation and unity, witnessed in the north-south relations that had been frozen with distrust and confrontation, and the phase for détente created on the Korean peninsula are the result of the proactive efforts of the DPRK and the unanimous desire and wish of all Koreans who are keen to open up the breakthrough to independent reunification by giving further momentum to the hard-won atmosphere for the improvement of the north-south relations.

The south Korean authorities often trumpet about valuing peace and stability on the Korean peninsula and improving the north-south relations whenever opportunities present themselves but outside they behave differently. This proves that their words do not match their acts.

Double-dealing stance can never work today.

If the south Korean authorities keep going against the nation's desire and wish, being pursuant to the U.S. hostile policy toward the DPRK, they will be made to face the same fate as the one met by the group of traitors. -0-

cozietoesie · 13/04/2018 00:16

For Across. A lawfare piece.

Seven takeaways from Trump's threats against Rosenstein

cozietoesie · 13/04/2018 00:26

I wonder whether they've actually 'kissed and made up'? Smile (Until the next time that 45 is annoyed that is.)

AcrossthePond55 · 13/04/2018 00:58

Good article, cozie. Just wish Scrotus was as measured in his thoughts.

lionheart · 13/04/2018 01:00

www.vox.com/2018/4/12/17231702/james-comey-book-detail-trump-pee-tape

“I decided not to tell him that the activity alleged did not seem to require either an overnight stay or even being in proximity to the participants,” Comey writes. “In fact, though I didn’t know for sure, I imagined the presidential suite of the Ritz-Carlton in Moscow was large enough for a germaphobe to be at a safe distance from the activity.”

TheClaws · 13/04/2018 01:07

TAPES!

Caroline O. @RVAwonk
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NEW: Michael Cohen sometimes taped conversations with associates, and allies of Trump are worried that the recordings were seized by the FBI when agents raided Cohen's office and residences this week

www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-allies-worry-that-federal-investigators-may-have-seized-recordings-made-by-his-attorney/2018/04/12/16d6345a-3e89-11e8-912d-16c9e9b37800_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.a3ce63c7bc9f

lionheart · 13/04/2018 01:21

www.rawstory.com/2018/04/republican-congressman-unloads-motherfker-trump-furious-top-message-conservative-pundit/

“But honestly, I wish the motherfcker would just go away. We’re going to lose the House, lose the Senate, and lose a bunch of states because of him. All his supporters will blame us for what we have or have not done, but he hasn’t led. He wakes up in the morning, shts all over Twitter, shts all over us, shts all over his staff, then hits golf balls. F*ck him. Of course, I can’t say that in public or I’d get run out of town.”

AcrossthePond55 · 13/04/2018 02:50

Maddow reporting (citing ABC news) that Trump is preparing to pardon former Dick Cheney aide Scooter Libbey. His crimes; obstruction of justice and lying to the FBI. Sound familiar? (Maddow did state that NBC has not verified ABC's report) This, if true, sets a troubling precedent, doesn't it?

Also that the RNC is preparing a smear campaign against James Comey. So much for a sliver of a hope that they'll turn on Scrotus if when he gets caught in Mueller's net.

cozietoesie · 13/04/2018 03:06

Oh they'll turn - eventually. Smile

You're going to be sickened by the sanctimony.

cozietoesie · 13/04/2018 03:26

Tomorrow might be .......interesting on Wall St. (The futures market isn't looking wholly positive at the moment. Although there are many hours to go.)

cozietoesie · 13/04/2018 05:42

Ms Maddow has the floor.

Mueller to report 'soon'?

cozietoesie · 13/04/2018 06:19

Something else that Maddow referred to.

Pompeo may fall short at Committee

TheClaws · 13/04/2018 07:13

Really? This low attempt to discredit shows only the GOP are complicit.

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Comey will try to peddle his story in an upcoming book tour, but he has no one but himself to blame for his complete lack of credibility.

www.lyincomey.com

boatyardblues · 13/04/2018 07:18

A lyincomey.com website, really? They must be really rattled. Also, is that not defamatory and potentially more fuel for an obstruction charge?

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cozietoesie · 13/04/2018 07:21

They're rattled alright. Badly rattled.

cozietoesie · 13/04/2018 07:23

You almost get the impression that their hearts are no longer in it, don't you? Smile

ohmymimi · 13/04/2018 07:59

Nicole Wallace on significance of Libby pardon.
www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/wallace-trump-conditioning-public-with-pardon-of-scooter-libby-1209859651649

Roussette · 13/04/2018 08:19

I would've thought so boat,

WTAF is this about. All Republicans do is whinge about how long the enquiry is going on. These things do!

www.mediamatters.org/video/2018/04/12/mike-huckabee-suggests-republicans-order-capitol-police-conduct-raid-fbi/219924

cozietoesie · 13/04/2018 08:44

Roussette

You'll be saying next that you take his daughter seriously as well. Wink