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Don’t know if I’m ungrateful or depressed

59 replies

Sparklycurtainpole · 08/04/2018 13:42

Please go easy on me here with this one as an feeling a bit fragile but could do with some perspective.
Have three children ranging from 1-7 and am struggling a bit.
None of them have ever slept even a single night until they were gone three so I’ve not slept since 2010
My OH works away.
One of my DCs has special needs which are quite draining.
We had a family bereavement very recently which has meant I’ve been supporting many other family members.
I have no one who can help have all three of them at the same time so I can’t seem to get even a 5 min break where I’m ‘off duty’.
When OH is around he’s a great hands on dad but he works away a lot, has a time consuming hobby as well as long hours spent training for a national charity event which he does every year.
I also work but had to leave a job I loved to cut my hours as I was struggling to coordinate childcare so now only work very part time and often remotely so don’t have the camaraderie of my old job and am often alone.
My OH has also recently been diagnosed with a health condition which is quite worrying for us as a family.
I suffer from a chronic spine and joint disorder which means I’m often in great pain.
My OH and i never ever go out as a couple as he is either away or training. I’m so lonely as despite having lots of friends, I rarely get to see them without the children so get no adult time as it’s usually just chasing them around softplay etc.
We’re also having major structural work done to the house so I’m often without electricity or heating for days on end and the noise and dust is unholy.
We don’t have any money worries and my OH is very generous, often buying me quite extravagant presents which are lovely but in some ways make me feel worse as what I really crave is what you can’t buy - peace, rest, time with friends and my partner to want to spend time 1-1 with me.
I’m finding that from the outside in I look like I have a lovely life but inside I’m crying. I keep bursting into tears in the evenings which I invariably spend on my own as I’m so tired, lonely, drained and a bit lost. I’ve tried talking to OH and he always promises we’ll go out together and he’ll cut back on work and training etc but nothing ever changes. I’ve tried booking stuff for us to do but circumstances always seem to conspire against us and we never end up going or we have to cut things short.
Our sex life is non existent too and despite me always making an effort to look nice and be attractive, he doesn’t seem interested yet proposed last year and we’re due to be married later this year.
I don’t know if I’m acting like a brat as I know this doesn’t seem like a ‘real’ problem but I’m so tired and lonely that I feel I’ve lost a bit of perspective as well as a bit of myself somewhere along the way.
I now don’t know if I’m depressed or whether I’ve blown everything up in my head.
As I said, please go easy as I’m not in the best of places but a fresh pair of eyes would be really helpful.
Thank you.

OP posts:
Bea1985 · 08/04/2018 13:51

Wow, you are definitely not being ungrateful !! You are chronically sleep deprived and are juggling so many things with no help from DP. Don't think that just because he earns good money and buys you gifts that you aren't allowed to feel the way you do. OP I really feel for you and feel that you are on your way to serious burnout or depression.

Your DP must give something up. It's not reasonable for him to work long hours and leave you isolated with 3 kids/a house being renovated, then spend his free time doing things he enjoys. It's not on! He needs to take the kids for some of his free time and allow you some headspace and rest. Even a few hours a week can make the world of difference.

Have you told him how overwhelmed and alone you are feeling ? What was his reaction ?

Please don't feel like you are moaning OP, you need some support!

rocketgirl22 · 08/04/2018 13:52

You are not unreasonable to expect some intimacy and affection.

If you have the financial means I would start by hiring some help. You need to have a day off/half day a week as a minimum. Find someone lovely that you trust and then start building your life from there. You will feel increasingly more tired and stressed unless you accept you need help.

Once you have help in place, my suggestion would be to start doing hobbies of your own, take up a part time job, have a life. Meet your friends for drinks and of course then you will be able to go out with your dp and have a serious conversation about your relationship.

He needs to cut back on the time consuming hobby given you have three dc, he is being a little selfish putting charity events and hobbies on top of already working away.

You have managed to find yourself in the position of doing all the chores and childcare whilst he is having a fairly carefree life elsewhere doing what he wants to do. It is not on.

You need to be far more firm and assertive, and he needs to be helping much more than he is now, and making time for you.

I would be putting it to him in clear terms that things need to change, and fast.

DCITennison · 08/04/2018 13:53

I’m so sorry, this all sounds so hard. You’re having to cope with so many pressures almost singlehandedly and I don’t know that anyone would be able deal with life as it is without their well-being suffering as a result.
I really think you are being massively let down by this man, why does he get to fit his family around everything else when you have to juggle every facet of who you are and what you do around the needs of the family?

UpstartCrow · 08/04/2018 13:53

You need a proper break from everything before the stress breaks you. then when you get back you need a lot more practical support and regular down time from all the responsibility.
And you are definitely not being unreasonable - just having the builders in drove me round the twist Flowers

Dozer · 08/04/2018 13:53

Exhaustion/overwork, depression will be a risk if you don’t already have it.

Sounds like your OH is a big part of the problem.

Are you married? If not and you don’t have independent financial assets working PT is a big risk for you personally. He could change his job and drop his hobby.

GreatDuckCookery6211 · 08/04/2018 13:53

I agree that DH needs to give up something too, you've got far too much to cope with in your own.

Is there any chance you could get a nanny or someone to help ease the load. You sound totally burnt out.

Bea1985 · 08/04/2018 13:54

OP I really feel like there are many longer term deeper issues that need to be straightened out here. As a shorter term idea how about going to see your GP and explaining how you feel? It's ok if your burst into years - you are only human OP. Xxx

Dozer · 08/04/2018 13:55

And the charity work (vanity project?)

If (his) money isn’t an issue he should use it to pay for childcare and domestic help.

Cambionome · 08/04/2018 14:02

You have a dh problem, to coin a phrase!

He doesn't get to have a lovely life pursuing his hobby and vanity project(?) while you are struggling on with so little support.

It may well be a very good idea to arrange to see your gp, and tell your dh that you've had to make the appointment because of your depression, unhappiness and extreme tiredness.

If he still doesn't take any notice then you have quite a serious problem here.

Dozer · 08/04/2018 14:06

It is not “generous” of him to buy you unasked for expensive gifts while prioritising his career and hobbies (charity work can, for some people, be a hobby or vanity project) and giving very little time to his family.

If you’re not married it’s the opposite of generous to build his career while you give up yours due to him not being there to share the parenting🍜

Bea1985 · 08/04/2018 14:09

I agree - if he has lots of money then buying you extravagant items you don't need isn't particularly generous - it's easy for him. What would be less easy for him would be to give you what you really need as give up his hobbies.

And I'm sorry but he really doesn't have time to be doing charity work. Xxx

PoisonousSmurf · 08/04/2018 14:12

Get a weekly cleaner and a babysitter. You said money was no object?
What is stopping you from getting help in?
And please, please, get married. Only needs to be a register office. Whilst you are not working out of the home but being there for him and the children, you could be left up the creek without a paddle if he decides to run off.
I mean, who on earth lives away from home for so long AND spends hours on hobbies and charity work?
Is something else going on? Another 'secret' family?
No wonder you are depressed.

Lemontart25 · 08/04/2018 14:17

Sounds like a hell of alot on your plate & mind. Could you hire a nanny (ideally a live in one or very flexible if possible) to allow you to return to work hours that suit you & also to be on hand for you & DP to have those evenings out. Once of course he pulls back on his extra activities & possibly makes a change in his work also.

Sparklycurtainpole · 08/04/2018 14:21

Thanks so much everyone already.
We’re due to get married later this year - date set, invites sent out etc so that’s all in hand.
Really appreciate the fact that the charity work is seen as a vanity project as it’s how I’ve felt but felt so mean spirited to think that way as everyone we know makes such a fuss of OH for all the money he makes for very poorly children. Felt like a bitter old crone for not wanting him to do so much.
The gifts thing drives me daft too. They always arrive when he knows I’m down from being ‘neglected’ or ‘put upon’ and I feel like they’re a means of trying to silence any complaints I might have as I have to say thank you rather than start a frank or difficult conversation and again I look mean or ungrateful. We have a cleaner once a week for a couple of hours as my condition means that often I’m in so much pain it’s difficult for me to push hoovers or get on all fours or stretch. I can manage most days but if I’m having a flare up then no chance. Just changing nappies and lifting into high chairs etc about kills me. The building work means there’s little point having more hours as it’s like sweeping leaves in a hurricane.
I’ve just been upstairs crying my eyes out whilst putting away the kids’ ironing and setting out tomorrow’s uniforms etc whilst OH watches a film with them. Even sneaking a cry is a luxury and I don’t mean that to sound dramatic but it’s exhsusting keeping a lid on my feelings in front of the kids.
Thanks again for your perspectives. It’s so helpful to get an outside point of view. I think I’ll book a GP appt ASAP.

OP posts:
Dozer · 08/04/2018 14:24

Suggest couples counselling and/or counselling for you alone. The current situation is very unfair on you and it’s worrying that you can’t be honest with him and are questioning yourself for your entirely understandable sadness and anger, which are due to his selfish actions.

Dozer · 08/04/2018 14:24

Him sat down enjoying leisure time with the DC while you do essential domestic work is a classic example.

RandomMess · 08/04/2018 14:27

Can he afford for you to have regular help with the DC? Live in au pair, nursery, part time nanny???

You sound utterly exhausted Thanks

TheBlueDot · 08/04/2018 14:27

Can you afford a mother’s help or nanny?

RandomMess · 08/04/2018 14:27

Can he afford for you to have regular help with the DC? Live in au pair, nursery, part time nanny???

You sound utterly exhausted Thanks

Viviennemary · 08/04/2018 14:28

I don't see that you have alovely life. Being left most of the time with three children in a house sometimes without heating or electricity. It sounds like hell on earth. You should ask him to get a short term let until the work on your house is finished. You need practical solutions not being bribed by presents.

Bea1985 · 08/04/2018 14:33

OP ask him to do some laundry and you watch lame of the film !! I agree that if long is no object then hired help is a good idea - flexible help with the kids and in the home. People are saying "live in" but if your house is in a state that may not be possible right now. But you can still get all sorts of help - maybe have a chat with an agency? Xxx

StaplesCorner · 08/04/2018 14:39

Despite all the invites going out etc., you need to get someone to have the kids whilst you and DP sit down and sort this out. Otherwise what you have explained will be your life forever.

BuffyBee · 08/04/2018 14:42

It does sound as if you are overwhelmed by the daily grind. To get some free time for yourself, to see friends, have you any family who could babysit one evening per week for you?
Otherwise could you find a babysitting agency or ask around your friends if they know of anyone who would be trustworthy.
Sometimes it helps if you just have something, like a night out, to look forward to.

Dozer · 08/04/2018 14:44

The current situation is not working for you. If he’s a decent guy he will listen and act quickly, in positive ways, if you say things need to change. If he’s not decent he will seek to make out that your are U or “ungrateful” and/or show unwillingness to give up any of his current advantages.

Raising money for charity can have payoffs for the individual, eg social approval, raising it through doing something they enjoy or have set themself as a personal challenge (eg skydiving, cycling, running) . In this case he’s doing it in addition to working away and another time consuming hobby. When he has small DC, one with additional needs, and a DP who is doing the hard work with them and in the home, and has had to stop paid work she enjoyed. Selfish.

Cobblersandhogwash · 08/04/2018 14:48

Spend some money on a nanny. Get some rest that way?