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[Supernorthernme]

The thread continues....if it hasn't continued elsewhere! @Lateforall it was me who questioned Lobella loves depression wears lippy campaign. I get that the idea is that being a bit glam might be a way of coping. And i have been guilty of putting my face on to carry on in the world. I get that not everyone with pnd is sat at home in pjs unshowered with greasy hair. But I just find the whole thing so false on her account - maybe that is because I know of her in real life.

But I think so many of them have massivley over exaggerated aspects of their lives because it sells. Whether that is FODs clumsy parenting or whatever. But it really doesnt sit well

@jamoncrumpets this is not the place for personal opinion.

Or emojis.

What's wrong with emojis 🤦🏻‍♀️ I feel like life with teens is often an emoji life.

@thechocolateteapot some of those comments have been unbelievable. I will say the last batch of photos did look better, but the overall attitude to the whole thing has a very bitter taste.

Good points again @Mumofkids

I like an emoji or two also. These days, me and my 13yr old DS communicate solely in emojis and memes. I can barely remember what his voice sounds like 🙄🤷🏻‍♀️

No it's not a weird point. It needs pointing out as the singling out of IG posts that have done nothing wrong is kind of weird.
Whilst laughing, saying how lame they are or whatever, but at the same time want their bags, their house, their whatever but even if it's paid for or an ad clearly stated they're apparently a grabby freeloader.
chocolateteapot again,not closing anything down. As I said,crack on with fawning, or account watching, or whatever but I'm interested in some points that come up so ask questions every now and again as I find the discussion interesting.

I love emojis too,but a poster on the other thread was just using them next to incoherent rambling personal attacks.

😴

Some posters have serious issues?
Wow, the irony in that comment is extremely strong

YOU think they've done nothing wrong Cady, that's just 'your opinion'

I don't know every single one of my followers personal finances...."

Btw, who's said this?

You don't speak universal truth Cady, you're just offering opinion like the rest of us

The ASA rules/guidelines are there to protect both sides, the argument of jealous/unfollow just doesn't stand up if you substitute ASA for Mumsnet, eg..

Dear Insta-user,
It has been brought to our attention that your online business has been involved in practices of false advertising. An investigation has taken place and the complaint has been upheld. We have contacted Instagram and your account will be deleted. Yours, the ASA

Dear ASA,
You're just jealous. If you don't like what I'm doing, then just unfollow. All my followers/fans agree with me so there. The false advertising rules don't apply to little old me. Yours, Insta-user

I'm noticing the Instagrammers who are gradually starting to agree there's a point here, and are marking everything with the correct hashtags mostly have previous relevant industry experience in areas like PR, fashion editing etc. The ones constantly arguing over it, are the more self proclaimed insta-gurus.

@PavlovaPrincess- MoD, when challenged whether such a luxury holiday was within reach of most people........

Perfect Vipers!

Lol @nipersvest 

@TheChocolateTeapot thank you. Weird though, that's so unlike her...😏

jam the whole thread professes to be about IGers and how some don't state gifts, and it's not fair as it's misleading.people.
I agree, it does mislead if they're not marked as ads.
There is actually nothing wrong with being an IGer. Not just my opinion, they're technically doing nothing wrong.
If the rich lifestyles repulse you that much, you don't have to look.
What about the little influencers trying to bring in a bit of much needed extra money?
Don't think anyone answered that (apologies if they did)

I have spent HOURS of my life reading all of these mumsnet threads. But of course not nearly as much time as I have spent with my face in a trance staring into Instagram. This is while my beautiful 2 year old son potters round. Why am I not engaging with him and instead acting like some sort of zombie firstly obsessed with these frankly quite ridiculous people and then totally absorbed in other people’s opinions of them? I really don’t know and it makes me feel like a very crappy and shallow person yet I can’t bring myself to delete my insta app.
Anyway my thoughts:
MOD - lost any amount of respect for her with the Gillette ad. Using your toddlers to sell razor blades?? The every time she was called up on why they were in the (very staged) phots she replied #neveralone. Now with a 2 year old I often have an audience in the bathroom but I wouldn’t think that necessary when somebody else is home and she had somebody, either FOD or the nanny or maybe a photographer up on a chair to take the pic. I tried to make this point in a comment and insta wouldn’t allow me to post the comment. I’m not sure if it was blocked for length or key words or too many exclamation points but that really drummed Home to me how controlled the whole thing is and of course MODFOD are the worst for cutting out any questioning. Maybe they will one day rule the country in an Orwellian nightmare sense.
I agree with previous points made but not really expanded upon that feminism and bopo are hopped on as “sisterhood causes” but only if you are in our gang, express it our way and of course spend your money on our merch.
The rampant consumerism is horrible, depressing, no good for anyone. But we all feed it!! Why??
2 of my current insta faves are the frugality and eimearvarianbarry yet they’re both posting and storying commercial content days after giving birth. I feel genuinely worried about the pressure they must be feeling to keep up with their commercial obligations but conflicted because they both seem lovely people and both infact make it clear this is their job and they’re both very professional about it.
I will eventually be strong enough to delete insta and then won’t have to spend another minute concerned about the lives of strangers. Maybe we should all do that? The bubble will burst and there will be something else

What about the little influencers trying to bring in a bit of much needed extra money?

I wasn't aware the ASA guidelines only affect the larger instagram accounts.

@cadyheron you keep ignoring my questions which are about Instagrammers (DLAM) not disclosing gifts/collabs and motives for building large follower numbers. Why is this? It’s coming across that you have an agenda not that you are really interested in any discussion.

from the ASA website,

If the commercial intent isn't clear from the overall context of the communication, it should be labelled as an ad so as not to break the ASA’s rules and mislead the influencer's audience. Consumers should always be aware when they are being advertised to. Failure to disclose the commercial relationship an influencer may leave a brand at risk of a complaint to the ASA

No mention of influencers with a smaller audience being exempt.

DLAM probably needs to read some of the stuff on the ASA website, she breaks most of the guidelines with every instagram post.

Well done, nipersvest!

The only thing you might want to add is: perspective. Tell the ASA you have no brain space for tedious things such as disclosure, so would they please just get some perspective.

That’s my point nipers, cady professes to care about non disclosure but she seems shy for some reason about calling someone out for it instead suggesting we are too focused on berating people who do disclose

Pretty sure that the majority of the stuff DLAM shows on her insta is gifted, like all the Hill and Friends bags she's got. She also has one of the red monogrammed bags that MOD showed on her luggage pic, but strangely, that wasn't tagged so I wonder if she actually paid for that herself.

@isthsawindup also notable refuses to accept that whilst an account may now have just started using #ad they may not have for the past 2/3 years and therefore others are discussing a long term issue, where they've essentially been duped or at least mislead. Apparently this is now irrelevant because ad has been used a couple of times.
I've also not read thread guidelines stating this thread purports to be solely about IGers not stating gifts, could someone provide a link? I thought it was a thread on a forum for general conversation.
I find the monetary accounts using children something I question. Is that allowed?

bolding (sorry for those who don't like it) but only so you know what bit I'm referring to
@cadyheron you keep ignoring my questions which are about Instagrammers (DLAM) not disclosing gifts/collabs and motives for building large follower numbers. Why is this?

How am I ignoring when I have repeatedly said of course it's wrong not to disclose gifts?!