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AIBU?

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Why do good things happen to bad people?

60 replies

Blackbirdblue30 · 31/03/2018 12:11

Just that really. I'm thinking about a few people who really screwed me over and are having lovely lives with no consequences for what they did. People talk about karma and so on but it doesn't seem to ever happen. AIBU to expect a comeuppance?

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Babyplaymat · 31/03/2018 12:15

Of course. Otherwise why do bad things happen to good people?

TalkFastThinkSlow · 31/03/2018 12:17

I don't really believe in karma. I think people just say that kind of thing to make themselves feel better.

Some people just have better lives, full stop.

I don't know if you are BU. I, personally, can't stay mad at anyone who screwed me over. I just try to move on and focus on the future.

ablatant · 31/03/2018 12:17

Random fucking chance. No reason.

soashamed30 · 31/03/2018 12:18

Because the universe has no concept of fairness. There is no such thing as karma.

GreenTulips · 31/03/2018 12:19

I believe in Karma - it just takes time

pinkiepie1 · 31/03/2018 12:19

Because life's shit sometimes

UtterlyDesperate · 31/03/2018 12:20

There's a Ladino proverb that says something like "God is sometimes late, but He never forgets". We never truly know what goes on in someone else's life - I don't have a nice nature, so when someone looks superficially to have it all despite their ill-gotten ways, I imagine that it's all founded on debt/they'll be found out/their children despise them etc

"Karma" tends to be used in English as a very simplistic "they'll get what's coming". It doesn't actually mean that, despite it being used that way.

YimminiYoudar · 31/03/2018 12:20

Karma doesn't mean that good things can't happen to bad people. It means that whatever happens to bad people they can never get the joy and fulfillment from those things that they would if they were good.

The most marvellous experience is bitter and dry dust to someone whose heart is truly turned to evil.

ZibbidooZibbidooZibbidoo · 31/03/2018 12:21

Well far starters, you have no idea what is going on with them privately. People tend not to share when their life is going badly. They share the good stuff. And secondly, even if you do believe in karma, you can’t believe it arrives with a banner and loudspeaker saying “this is for what you did to blackbird in 2003, can you? How on earth would you know what they have suffered or why?

Tbh you’re only annoying yourself by staking these people to see how well or badly they’re doing. Grow up and get in with your own life.

redcollargirl · 31/03/2018 12:21

I would like to believe that Karma exists, but the evidence suggests the opposite.

MsMalcontent · 31/03/2018 12:22

I agree OP. I’ve been royally fucked over by a couple of people who are living the life of Riley while I’m still picking up the pieces. It sucks and it’s bloody unfair.

Kazzyhoward · 31/03/2018 12:23

Everyone's life is based on luck of the draw. No such thing as Karma. You just have to live with the cards your dealt, and make the best of it.

An individual's only choice, as such, is to take advantage of good luck and do their utmost to mitigate the bad luck.

Addy2 · 31/03/2018 12:24

Who ever told you life was fair?

ShyOyster · 31/03/2018 12:25

There’s no such thing as karma. I can think of 2 people off the top of my head who have done some awful things and they both have fabulous lives. One of them knows that I know (how ridiculous does that sound?!) and this person made every attempt you can think of to discredit me, both in my professional and personal life, with partial success.
The universe, sadly, doesn’t know what fairness is, in my experience anyway.
So yes, YABU to expect karma to sort things out. But YANBU to think it SHOULD be that way.

ThisIsTheFirstStep · 31/03/2018 12:25

I used to attract a lot of assholes when i was younger, and generally those people are never happy, even if the most wonderful things happen to them. Inside, they are too bitter to ever experience real joy.

mummyhaschangedhername · 31/03/2018 12:26

There is no such thing are karma ... we just say those type of things to feel better about crap that happens to us.

IAmWonkoTheSane · 31/03/2018 12:26

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sameoldsame · 31/03/2018 12:27

Just total luck of the drawer
Or you could look at it, that they went for what they wanted with little regard for anyone else
So of course they’ll be ok
What type of person would you rather be.

ZibbidooZibbidooZibbidoo · 31/03/2018 12:28

draw!! Shock

TheFirstMrsOsmond · 31/03/2018 12:29

Because it is a random godless universe

UpstartCrow · 31/03/2018 12:30

Revenge by the Universe isn't what karma means.

There is such a thing as karma, its about our own personal development. As we go through life we will meet the same types of challenge and situation as we have in the past. Have we learned anything from past experience, or will we stay entrenched in negative habits and thinking?

IamXXHearMeRoar · 31/03/2018 12:31

Just because.

There is no such thing as karma, hollywood lies - stick with the brothers Grimm.

Shit happens.

Roll with the punches and understand that someone with a conscience actively good deeding their way through life will always be happier and more fulfilled than the average sociopathic shit kicker.

Justanotherzombie · 31/03/2018 12:31

I don't believe in Karama. But there are always consequences to doing bad things, you just might not see those consequences! At the very least there is punishment in other people thinking you're a dick. But often if you treat people badly enough for long enough, it will catch up with you. People won't trust you or will talk about you negatively, won't help you when you need it. That's a direct consequence of being bad.

Doesn't mean they won't win the lotto but they wont feel the joy and freedom of knowing you've treated people well throughout life.

smithsinarazz · 31/03/2018 12:31

Yes. Have you read Dorothy Rowe? She's a psychologist who's written quite a lot on depression. One of the things she says is that if you expect or believe the world to be a just place, the only way you'll be able to deal with bad things happening to you is to decide that it's in some way "your fault".

The world does actually repay good people, but not in the sense that bad people get thunderbolts - just in the sense that, if you go round being nice and thoughtful and kind, people will want to see you and will want to do their best for you, too.

(If you take it too far you may get taken for a ride. That's my mother's problem, bless her. But everyone loves her. )