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Breastfeeding & then giving junk food all the time....???

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chinesechicken · 30/03/2018 16:09

So I'm in a breastfeeding group on facebook, because I breastfed all my children. At one point in the beginning I used to combi feed because I was quite poorly and was really made to feel crap about it by some people in the group.

Anyway, they all go on about how important it is to breastfeed and how proud they are etc etc, something I can't relate to.. BUT they often sort of brag about how they are too lazy/tired to cook actual proper food so often give children's ready meals (I didn't know these were a thing), pizzas, chicken nuggets etc most days of the week. Nobody gets shamed for this, but if it was someone saying "I'm going to formula feed because I am too lazy/tired/ busy being a mum to breastfeed" I think they would get seriously shot down by them.

The reason I think this is odd is because the benefits to the child of breastfeeding are things like reduced chance of childhood cancer, reduced chance of diabetes later in life, not being overweight etc etc these things are also influenced by your diet! So surely if you're going to campaign for children receiving the best in nutrition or whatever, why does this stop being important when your child is on solids or 1 year old?

It seems so weird to me, I suppose I am resentful to the group because of the way I've seen them bitching about formula feeding mums and how formula doesn't even begin to compare and how it is our responsibility to feed our children ourselves, and then to me this seems so hypocritical when they're feeding junk food most days of the week.

AIBU to point this out and deal with the backlash then leave?! I feel like they need it pointing out because they're obviously oblivious to how hypocritical and ridiculous they look. Or would I then be accused of mum shaming? PS I work full time, breastfed my three children and cook all my own food from scratch and don't give anything processed so I do know the hard work that goes into both breastfeeding and not giving your kid ready-meals.

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Choklitdoknut · 30/03/2018 19:19

Tuscanmum obviously not RTFT but i am there as a supporter due to experience and qualifications.
Also, Peterpanspants do you mean me, the OP? I am completely for FF if that's what someone wants to do, and i am trying to stick up for FF mums.

Choklitdoknut · 30/03/2018 19:21

I actually hated BF and wouldn't do it again but did out of feeling pressured and worried i would make my babies ill. At the time i did stand up to them but i was a minority and wanted to continue to support new mums who needed it.

Namechangemum100 · 30/03/2018 19:35

I totally get your point op, and i didn't breastfeed my first (not through lack of trying however, it just wasn't meant to be).

It's an interesting point, because I think you are right in that it is often overlooked what children are given in terms of actual food once they are weaned.

Having said that, I think it is also very commonly overlooked how mum's diet impacts the nutritional value of breast milk, and not all is equal if mum has a very poor, low quality, highly processed diet, in comparison to a mum with a nutritionally rich diet.

Hypermice · 30/03/2018 19:41

Actually there’s very little difference in breast milk composition in poorly and well nourished mothers. The mother herself will become depleted however.

You are correct though OP - while breast milk is great, the effects can’t really be quantified in the individual. You need large study populations to see effects (why is why so much breastfeeding research isn’t great.) on an individual level, the effects of genetics and environment (weaning diet etc) will outweigh any effects of BF. That’s not to say bf won’t make a positive difference, only that it’s very hard to tease out what effect there is in a sample of one.

If the group is pissing you off, it’s time to leave.

clumsyduck · 30/03/2018 19:46

Nah op is right. There clearly judgey as fuck but only when it suits them

Also parenting Facebook group .. Shudder

SnooSigh · 30/03/2018 19:51

Similar but I know a Mum who is very strict on sugar, yet has two small children in forward facing car seats. We all pick our own battles.

BustopherJones · 30/03/2018 19:54

I second that shudder.

Ansumpasty · 30/03/2018 20:47

Just leave the group. It’s winding you up, what’s the point?
I’ve never thought about it before, but the feeding ff child brilliantly and feeding EBF child not as well does ring a little true to me. I felt so guilty about being unable to bf my first that I was ridiculously hung up on his diet and weight. I would literally plan my entire day around his meals and make things like steamed salmon and spinach with an avocado and creme fraice sauce with strawberries dipped in natural yogurt FOR LUNCH and then obsess about how much he’d eaten and if he was getting the right nutrients.
I went on to EBF my second for a long time and was a lot more relaxed about what she ate. I guess I felt like she was in good hands and I didn’t have to worry as much? This was obviously subconsciously, I’ve never thought about it until you pointed it out.

That being said, I would never brag about feeding my kids shite

multivac · 30/03/2018 21:04

Ahhhh, sweetheart; are your breastfeeding chums not smug enough for you?

sycamore54321 · 30/03/2018 21:11

A poster above me has said "Personally, I think junk food is a far worse crime than formula milk". So formula is a crime, and junk food is even worse. Both are clearly bad. This person hilariously claims to be a doctor. I really hope none of my children are ever under his/her care. Formula feeding is an excellent safe and healthy way to feed a baby. I have nothing but contempt for the constant denigrating of people's choices.

Choklitdoknut · 30/03/2018 21:15

multivac you sound like my nan

JessTessMess · 30/03/2018 21:18

They’re clearly hypocrites - but I’d love to know what you do when you get home at 615, the kids are small and exhausted from a long day at nursery and you haven’t got something homemade to reheat..

If you’ve got non processed options that can be on the table in 10 minutes I’d love to hear it.

I wouldn’t boast about my microwave pasta habit but it is pretty bloody essential.

All mums judging other mums stuff is shite on any parenting issue that isn’t contravening SS standards.

DairyisClosed · 30/03/2018 21:23

How did you not know that ready meals exist? I'm not saying that you necessarily must have eaten one in the past but surely you noticed them all over the place when you went to a super market at some point in your life? I mean waitrose has a whole fridge aisle that is just pizza and pasta. And M&S actually has a section called 'ready meals' with signs pointing it out. Not to mention the freezer section being 80% ready meals (but I suppose you may not go back there if you don't eat ice cream). I'm picturing you living on some remote island or something. Or maybe a commune?

Choklitdoknut · 30/03/2018 21:28

I'm on about child specific ready meals. Of course i know what a ready meal is and i eat shit food myself.

Also i batch cook so we always have some thing in the freezer and i often defrost it and cook it in the microwave in 10 mins.

GoldenHefalump · 30/03/2018 21:35

If you’ve got non processed options that can be on the table in 10 minutes I’d love to hear it

Pork loin, egg noodles and frozen peas.
Cheese omlettes with various veg in.
Scrambled egg, wholemeal toast and beans.

I don't buy ready meals...these are my go to quick options. There are probably lots more.

Each to their own but ready meals are not essential.

MilkyCoffeeAndSkinnySyrup · 30/03/2018 21:38

I think people should just mind their own business. If someone wants to BF their child then good on them to be honest. It's got nothing to do with them how I feed my child because he is my child, nobody else's so I honestly couldn't care less whether someone wants to BF or bottle feed. It's not my business!

I bottle-fed my son, and he does eat his five a day and he occasionally eats biscuits, chocolates and probably something to stick in the oven from the freezer but majority of the time he has home cooked foods. That's just how I bring my son up but he is fed, looked after and he is happy.

This is why I don't have social media accounts and I haven't joined any such groups because I am sick of people trying to big themselves up and have an opinion on how everyone else runs their own life or brings up their own children. Who are we to tell them what they should and shouldn't do?

Camomila · 30/03/2018 21:41

Armchair psychologist here...I think maybe part of it is if you FF you quantify/measure what your DC is eating from the beginning but if you breastfeed (at least if you have a straight forward time) you basically just lift your top up whenever they seem hungry...and it's more 'relaxed'.

I also admit that if its been a busy day/DS has had freezer food I think ah well at least he's breastfed today and had nutrients.

I'm planning on weaning next month (he'll be 2) and I think i'll probably worry a lot more especially when ill and doesn't fancy eating.

multivac · 30/03/2018 21:46

Gosh, GoldenHeffalump - making your own egg noodles and bread must be quite time consuming, though?

ILoveDolly · 30/03/2018 21:49

I was all about the bf and careful healthy meals when they were small, now all school age I watch them merrily consuming junk by preference and NOT being more healthy or free of illness than their peers who were ff. I only did bf because I liked it really, and most people's choices are basically influenced heavily on just what they like and can make. It's great you have the energy and time for all that cooking but not everyone does or can and ultimately it's not something you can influence anyway.

Choklitdoknut · 30/03/2018 21:51

Fishcakes take about 30 mins to make from scratch and you can freeze dozens at a time.

Choklitdoknut · 30/03/2018 21:53

My response above is to the request for quick meals

GoldenHefalump · 30/03/2018 22:27

Gosh, GoldenHeffalump - making your own egg noodles and bread must be quite time consuming, though?

Not really, not when you have the right equipment. But those parts are (obviously) made in advance and not included in the ten minutes.

They're still nutritious meals even if you're skipping a step and buying in the noodles and bread though.

TimesNewRoman · 30/03/2018 22:49

I get what you're saying OP.
My FB used to be full of people harping on about how they EBF. Sharing links about how bad bottle feeding was. Then at 4 months old their kid is photographed eating cheesy wotsits and choc buttons.
Now I like a cheesy wotsit as much as the next person but I did find it a bit hypocritical.

multivac · 31/03/2018 00:01

They're still nutritious meals even if you're skipping a step and buying in the noodles and bread though

Are they? Blimey, GF where did you pick up all this nutritional expertise?

gluteustothemaximus · 31/03/2018 00:13

They shouldn't be judging formula feeding.

And you shouldn't be judging the junk food.

Far too much judgy pants all round.

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