Instamums 4

[mammyoftwo]

Following on from Instamums 3.2

Bethie is Hungermama

Never heard of her. I don't think she in the league of some of the others.

@BettyDimples I'm sorry to hear about your son

I think the 'no child' argument is two separate arguments really. Our kids learn at school not to give out personal info or share pics for security reasons and yet their parents are posting all this info online seemingly without a thought to the consequences.

The other argument is using your kids in your social media to specifically grow your brand and how that relates to the children's 'earnings'.

@madamegrizzly my teenager received snapchats from girls in a school assembly (phones banned...) saying 'fuck off and die ugly bitch'

I'm sorry to hear that, Mumofkids. Social media I feel is a lot less moderated and a whole lot more nasty than MN. I'm positive it is contributing to the sky rocketing levels of youth anxiety.

I looked and she has 11k followers and does the events - did the Knorr thing the other day.

I know who she is because my husband likes her blog and she lives near us.

Thank you, and yes. Safety and exploitation are definitely different facets

Hmm I'm pretty sure the poster on that thread said CT's kids weren't attractive. I didn't read the thread but do remember CT's post. (And obviously that is just a no go, and nonsense anyway - all little kids are cute!)

The child's sense of entitlement too, one family have computers, appliances, holidays, food, clothes, car, all just sent and 'gifted' how do you cope with growing children who see them s world of getting something for what appears to be very little.
And how the package may sell well but individually many of these children are just quite average cute kids. How will they feel when they don't get everything they want and people are not interested in them as a product. It's really dodgy ground.

Hmm I'm pretty sure the poster on that thread said CT's kids weren't attractive

Yes it was and that comment got deleted and the poster who said got roundly told off by other posters. If it's the same thread 'Bethie'/Hungermama didn't get mentioned at all.

Hmm I'm pretty sure the poster on that thread said CT's kids weren't attractive. I didn't read the thread but do remember CT's post*

It was definitely CT - I know because I didn't make the connection as to who she was until I watched her stories and saw her mention it. So god knows what KitKat is on about

@madamegrizzly she was only in yr 7 when this happened and does now have terrible anxiety and eating issues. I can take any photos of her let alone post them anywhere. I'm not blaming anything in particular, we are all different. Some children would just brush it off, but others just can't and don't.
She was bullied over a long period and it was only by chance I realised the extent.
It's one of the reasons I feel so strongly about child protection and use of children, other kids can be so mean. And once they get a phone and learn how to delete and hide things it's hard to keep track of everything. I had to take her off everything for a long period of time.

I was wondering if we were in a meeting would we be close to summing up now?

1. Read the ASA rules. Discuss them and take advice.

1. Ease your kids off your account. If it requires them, it's probably not very good.

Any others? 😀

• 1. Read the ASA rules. Discuss them and take advice.

1. Ease your kids off your account. If it requires them, it's probably not very good.*

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Never heard of Hungermama. Just looked her up. White, wealthy, husband with high earning job, south London based. Yawn.

Sounds good, Fruitbowl!

I didn't follow CT till that thread, it was definitely her kids. And it was not polite. But it is a sign of the negative side, and if grown woman would make those comments just imagine what kids are capable of.

I've yet to hear an instagram influencer give an anywhere near reasonable explanation for making profit from images of their children. I guess I'd like to know

Why do you post images of your children?

What would happen if you stopped posting images of your children?

Oh Jam I quite liked hungermama (despite the silly name) - she's in a band and I like her face. I think she's American? (I've only rarely watched stories on insta).

I'd make that my 3.

1. If you don't won't to delete IG, Limit your intake (like you do for your kids) and don't watch stories. Then you don't have to look at the annoying freebies so much and I found them much more charming when muted). 👍🏻

If Kitkat's husband is as senior in advertising as she claims, he will definitely know how her lame argument of 'don't be influenced by the ads' holds precisely zero water.

These women are governed by the ASA and should adhere to the regulations. Simple as that. No matter how many insta mums the rest of us have never heard of are texting her in tears.

It's worth looking up Hustle & Fox if you're at all interested in how influencers network and link up with brands. The wording is a bit 'all about the sisterhood' and 'using your hustle' but essentially it helps women maximise their income by promoting their assets (ie their children).

What a shame FashionLift and CLTS have liked the BeesKnees drivel. They have just plummeted in my estimation and I will have to unfollow.

iamalisonperry has responded so intelligently though - she can go and sit with MP, DMBL40 and ED in the Class Act corner.

It really isn't difficult, as summed up by FruitBowl, to disclose advertising and allow your kids privacy. You are setting your business up for longevity.

Kitkat seems daft, to be honest, which is why I've paid her no heed in this thread. None of her arguments make sense.

@Fruitbowl2 Ooh, I’ve just popped back as you’re winding up the discussion! Love the action points - can’t get more constructive than that.

Might they post images of their kids for the same reason many others do? They're the most important people in their lives, they're cute, they do funny things. Intagrammers with no kids post loads of pics of their pets, it's no different really.

I have posted pics of my daughters in pretty outfits. If my insta account was public and I had a large following it may well have crossed my mind to tag the pic #Boden (or whatever) in the hope they noticed, thought my kids were cute and sent me freebies (obviously in the expectation I'd feature the #gifts on insta).

I'm sure any money the instamums make specifically from featuring their kids goes towards a lifestyle that benefits their children anyway. I'm sure MODs kids loved the Disney trip, older kids probably like some of the "gifts" they receive.

Using your children for traffic on your instagrams, blogs and Vlogs is not okay in my opinion and I certainly despise using medical issues like reflux as a money maker, making videos, posts, etc to carry on talking about it to make money off the back of it really makes me sad. I just don’t think this okay. Using your children’s problems, behaviour, health etc to make yourself money and get likes and comments and engagement from it. They do it with the ‘oh if I help one person’ ...okay and I appreciate that but what about your child, one day he/she will watch these videos and I can’t imagine they will appreciate it. Who is more important?

If a child is told you can go disneyworld on holiday if we take pics of you to post publicly on my social media; they will have no idea what that means and would say yes so they can go to disney! They are not developed as they xare children! They will habe benefited at the kids expense.