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Instamums 4

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mammyoftwo · 30/03/2018 11:24

Following on from Instamums 3.2

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CertainlyChoco · 31/03/2018 12:46

FOD = PRIMARK JIM CARREY. MN gets carried away with censoring I thought it is an adult forum.

Stellastartsitall · 31/03/2018 12:52

Grin @certainlychoco

CadyHeron · 31/03/2018 13:03

Intelligent people back, I see.

CadyHeron · 31/03/2018 13:04

This is why I want gifts declared as ads.

Fair enough, so do I. Why do names keep getting brought into it when a quick look shows ads clearly are stated though?

PavlovaPrincess · 31/03/2018 13:05

Maybe Jim Carrey took umbrage at being compared to FOD and got his people to give MNHQ a ring? Smile

Otherwise that's just more proof that people do see the IGERS as being just like us, because I can't quite fathom why an anodyne comment such as that got deleted. If it had been about any other celeb, it would have been left to stand.

Stellastartsitall · 31/03/2018 13:06

Because there are still so many using this ambiguous #gifted tag. I am trying to refrain from pointing out someone blurring the lines. Because I already mentioned them before.

CadyHeron · 31/03/2018 13:07

Otherwise that's just more proof that people do see the IGERS as being just like us, because I can't quite fathom why an anodyne comment such as that got deleted

Can you really not see? That trying to descend the thread into totes hilaire bitch fest is kind of going to get you deleted?
Or are you being deliberately obtuse?

PavlovaPrincess · 31/03/2018 13:08

Or are you being deliberately obtuse?

Lol.

CadyHeron · 31/03/2018 13:11

Because there are still so many using this ambiguous #gifted tag.

There are, yes. And they should be clearly marked as a gift or an ad.
#gifted is poorly worded,as some people might not grasp that a gift means a gift.
Maybe something more clearer needs to be put on those that use it?
Sponsored would maybe be clearer?

CadyHeron · 31/03/2018 13:11

One word answers and witty responses. Yep, kind of says it all.
Are you 5?

Stellastartsitall · 31/03/2018 13:15

I really don't know the answer, but definitely something that discloses that there is a commercial relationship. And an exchange of trade. Promotion for free product.

Stellastartsitall · 31/03/2018 13:19

There is no integrity in featuring a free product without clear disclosure. Why try to fool people? Its just not fair really. Saying on stories I got these towels as a gift (disappeared now) and then featuring it prominently in a square with no acknowledgment is just plain sneaky.

chicken2015 · 31/03/2018 13:20

Does disclosing cause issues as people will know its a ad and not engage as much as they would have if they felt it was not an ad

IsThisAWindUp · 31/03/2018 13:21

Call it an advert.

CadyHeron · 31/03/2018 13:25

Saying on stories I got these towels as a gift (disappeared now) and then featuring it prominently in a square with no acknowledgment is just plain sneaky.

It is, I agree. Anyone doing that should be a lot clearer that it's a gift, as making it disappear and using without any further acknowledgment is definitely not on.

Stellastartsitall · 31/03/2018 13:33

Yes it needs to be called out

Handsoffmysweets · 31/03/2018 13:34

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Stellastartsitall · 31/03/2018 13:36

And the brand too if they are complicit

Handsoffmysweets · 31/03/2018 13:38

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Mumofkids · 31/03/2018 13:49

I actually think that inadvertently Sofia has actually hit on a very good point. Many of these people are a new breed of reality star. They are prepared to put their lives, homes and children in the public eye, for fame and money for themselves.
The difference is, it didn't really start out like that, and many of these people are perceived as middle class and have good professions. They are therefore an advertisers dream. These reality stars can hit a new, often much wealthier target audience.
All the stories, the running around being 'normal', the staged beach walks or breakfasts. It is no different to watching a reality show.
That's why it's popular. Often with reality stars, they start out with a lot less, so they are trying to make money, better lives. But these people on the whole are trying to extend good careers or putting good careers on hold to make money by selling themselves/their house/their family/the brand they have created.
They are all businesses and they help each other, but I'd imagine there's a fair amount of back stabbing that goes on as it's such a competitive platform.
It's unusual to find people perceived to be 'posh' or 'middle class' who'd be prepared to be exposing children to so much, and putting details out there that go against internet safety advice. You can imagine that some of these private schools roll their eyes at the unwanted attention bought by some of these families.
I do have an interest in the child safety aspect and it baffles me why people would swap good jobs and professions for instafame, but like many pp have said, that's their choice. They should probably have agents who advise them on basic child safety and they should definitely have regulations for children staring in ads.
The ads and gifts should be fully declared and transparent.
It also seems silly to constantly get upset about people getting irritated or saying someone annoys them. If you have a million followers, some of them are going to think you are a narcissistic twit at times if you stare into your phone pulling faces and chatting about nonsense. Who cares if people want to moan about that? Regarding the instadad and some recent ridiculous antics, no they are not crime of the century, but I've been asked to leave shops with escapee toddlers for less, because it's simply not safe. So discussion around that is ok.
With regard to jealousy, these lives look so tiresome. If my husband spent so much time videoing and editing my youngest children to monetise our family, and putting himself out there as a bit of a goon, it wouldn't sit well with me. I'd imagine it's probably highly irritating.
For me, Instagram was like a magazine, 5 mins with a cup of tea or when kids had gone to bed. These threads have exposed the truth behind a lot of big accounts and also that it's changed to such a degree with stories that it is just another platform if people watching, reality stars and that's what they are striving for. Fame and money.

catkin02 · 31/03/2018 13:51

Also, off topic or has been previously discussed. But MOD with her small brand shout outs - am I barking up the wrong tree but are these just massive hints to small brands/businesses for free stuff?

That's been on my mind since she has been doing it, I feel better now for just putting it out there. Thanks

Stellastartsitall · 31/03/2018 13:56

I would ignore shout outs. I doubt they have actually have a real transaction with any of these brands they promote. They certainly can't vouch for quality of product or service without bias. Take it with a pinch of salt cos they certainly won't want to know when you've been ripped of by someone they "recommended"

Stellastartsitall · 31/03/2018 13:58

SJV and some bag company did just that.

CadyHeron · 31/03/2018 14:05

If my husband spent so much time videoing and editing my youngest children to monetise our family, and putting himself out there as a bit of a goon, it wouldn't sit well with me. I'd imagine it's probably highly irritating.

It's his job though. It might not be one you agree with, but it's still his job.
If your husband was at home doing work, would you be irritated at him? Probably not if it's work you approve of.
If you think he's "a goon", why look at the posts? It'd be like me following say crochet patterns. I have no interest in it, if I thought it was boring, yawn, or not my thing, I'd find something that was.

laurahill88 · 31/03/2018 14:06

I’ve been reading with interest on the whole #ad debate and am now beginning to notice a couple of instagram accounts I follow are never declaring or tagging but it’s obvious they are ads for example @pinkpeonyhome has loads on her feed that I’ve seen other accounts doing (but declaring #ad) with discount codes and only one hashtag collab out of so many. My eyes have been opened and I’ll be unfollowing. Wonder if she’s paying tax too. All seems very underhand compared to some that are outright about the fact that this is now their job