Instamums 4

[mammyoftwo]

Following on from Instamums 3.2

Mumofkids

Fair enough you can't tell from photo's that a child is happy and not being abused. But from watching their stories, reading articles in magazines and generally following their day to day lives on insta I'd say its a pretty safe assumption that the kids of the instamums mentioned on here live safe, happy and fairly privileged lives.

sofia you say you are a fully trained social worker?

Oh fruitbowl, I knew it. #bemorerhonda

This thread has gone completely off track now.

as a social worker I would love my only concern to be whether a child is ‘forced’ to pose for 2 minutes for a photograph outside the Disney castle on their free holiday which they may possibly moan ‘isn’t cool’ in 10 years time

that is manifestly not what this thread is about

As a social worker, you think it is advisable that parents post their home address on easily accesible companies house documents and then post their children's names and other very identifying information online along with photos of them naked in the bath? That's fine is it?

How about the risk then caused when these children are older and refuse to take internet safety seriously because their parents never have. That's also fine.

Are we still debating Instamums?

@Gobbolinothewitchscat this is getting tedious.

Me- Wtf are you talking about? I've said several times that my daughter is very clued up re social media. Police have been into her school and given talks about online safety, we have parental controls on the internet.

You- Is that not very contradictory? Why do the rules apply to your children but not MODs. You say we should all stop getting our knickers in a twist about internet safety but implicitly accept that it is so serious an issue that the police judge it worthy of spending limites resources going to schools to warn pupils. But if we raise it on mumsnet, we are envious hysterics?

The police mainly discuss not using chat rooms and never meeting up with someone you've only spoke to online. I do post pics of my children on my social media, although I only have a couple of hundred friends/ followers not thousands. I don't allow my daughter to have a Facebook or insta account as she is under the minimum age and I just don't see a need for her to be on. That is my choice. It is MOD's choice to do whatever she does.

If a child came to serious harm from being left running amok in a supermarket would that not be neglect then?

Do you really think they're "being left to run amok" in a supermarket?
Has it not crossed your mind that it's probably a carefully staged photo of when the kids were ahead of them in the supermarket aisle and they decided to post a quick snap of "arrrgh! kids!"
They'll be in control at all times and probably seconds after the photo being taken all putting food into the trolley together as a family, peacefully.

@laurahill88 firstly this is a thread about instamums on an AIBU section of mumsnet. Secondly no one is losing sleep. This is and has been an interesting discussion.
No social worker I know would recommend putting out the private information about children that lots of these families do.
I'm sure you see terrible things but it's really not relative.

Thank you Laurahill it is nonsense. Celebrity child safety. Pure Daily Mail.

I want instagrammers to comply with asa rules. Stop pretending they ate receiving gifts. And declare them as ads.
Learn the rules and comply

*are

It absolutely is relative mumofkids. Read the thread back, it's hysterical and unreadable.

Cadey exactly, those pics FOD posted were a snapshot. No one here has any idea if there was someone stood just out of shot or whatever. I've had my children as toddlers misbehave in the supermarket. So what!!

Quite Stella.

There are all sorts of risks of harm, as you would know Laura.

We can care about more than one thing at the same time: the children who are currently being abused or neglected and the instachildren who have no privacy now and the potential effects of this in the future.

Demanding PERSPECTIVE is just another way of shutting down a completely valid discussion.

@MadameGrizzly
Did you just suggest MN posters report instamums to their local authority, sofialemon? I think MN might have a strong opinion on that

I was clearly being sarcastic.

I think we all agree anybody oversharing information about their kids online is probably a bad idea in the long run for various reasons. I don't agree we should start slating their parenting and calling it a 'child safety' issue.

FFS @Stellastartsitall we get it. Give it a bloody break. 5 threads of this nonsense. They are just living their life and earning a bit of money in the process. I am sorry that them doing this is having such a painful impact on your life.

I’ve noticed a stark difference between UK and US Instamums. In the US, feeds are so beautifully curated that they look like catalogues and you know that you’re being advertised to. In the UK, it’s a bit more ‘real’ so you feel less detached and it’s harder to see what’s what. Completely irrelevant to ASA but just something I noticed.

The police mainly discuss not using chat rooms and never meeting up with someone you've only spoke to online

Hmmm.....I wonder what the police would think about about putting your address online and details of your school and your full name so people online whom you have never met before know all of that about you. Now let me think......

@mumofkids you have been a regular commenter throughout the (now 4...how this discussion is still continuing is beyond me!) threads and seem very heavily invested. Reading them from an outsiders perfective I have to agree with @fruitbowl2, it does come across as quite over the top and sometimes it’s good to be reminded to put something into perspecive. I’m not condoning plastering your children naked in the bath on social media to hundreds of thousands of strangers but I believe these women (mother’s) are not doing anything that I would say is putting their children’s emotional or physical well-being at immediate risk

@laurahill88

I’ve been reading these ‘instamum’ threads with interest and have to say some valuable comments have been made, however it seems to have turned slightly sour. Chucking in my two pence worth - as a social worker I would love my only concern to be whether a child is ‘forced’ to pose for 2 minutes for a photograph outside the Disney castle on their free holiday which they may possibly moan ‘isn’t cool’ in 10 years time. I would love you to be in my shoes for one day and see some of the truely awful situations and risks some children are in. If that’s what’s keeping you up at night then you seriously need to get some perspective!

This is exactly how I feel. To whoever asked, no I'm not a social worker.

This thread has descended into ridiculousness.

Sofia has done exactly what she did on the Bloggers & Brands thread. Derailed, deflected and deliberately missed the point.

Sofia has raised some valid points. Why do you refuse to listen?