To ride the piss tsunami?

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My 6 year old was a very late toilet trainer, on meds for chronic constipation and still leaves it too late for the loo in the day and often has wet pants. Poor child has to drink shitloads (2l) of water a day for the poo issues so there’s a lot to come out.

Day 3 of no pull ups at night. Pull ups weren’t dry in the morning but she had got up a few times to wee in the night over the last few weeks so we jumped on the easter holidays to give it a try. I was a bedwetter, if it doesn’t work we’ll pop her back in and no matter. We are being only very positive.

Night 1- little dribble that woke her in night at 1230am and rest on loo (in bed at 7 so we were impressed she lasted that long!)

Night 2 - big dribble at same time as previous night and less in loo

Night 3 - piss tsunami that she’d obviously slept in for hours but which eventually woke her up at 4am requiring nuclear safety suits and a full hose down to sort her out.

They’ve been in childcare while I work this week so are way more tired than at school (it’s a sports based club). She’s had a quieter day today at home and I’m off now for a few days so hoping it improves if she’s not too tired.

My question is how long do I keep this going for? I’m happy to ride it for as long as she’s happy, which she is as she feels a big girl and only one wee per night so far. Partner feels she’s not ready and we should put her back in pull ups. Eric (continence charity) says a week or more before you backtrack - longer if poss. Any practical experience or ideas from your own bedwetters? How long did you let them wee wee wee before you decided they weren’t ready or, conversely, they got a dry night after being wet?

Would love some reassurance, I’m terrible with night disturbances and can’t continue the current rate of Cadbury’s cream egg consumption for much longer without becoming a Cadbury’s style supersize me experiment. Please reassure me I’m doing the right thing?

Have you tried putting her on the loo before you go to bed? She should barely wake, but empty her bladder, so hopefully lasting the night. My eldest could do that, but I doubt my second will when he gets there as he’s a lighter sleeper and will probably wake.
I’d definately give it a few more nights. The discomfort of being wet might prompt her to get through it.
Good luck

My 6 year old is the same. Will sleep in a piss soaked bed and not stir 😣

No advice just watching your thread.

Have you tried a bedwetting alarm? No brown drinks?

I tried the waking up before you go to bed, but mine was so deeply asleep, it didn't help.

Thanks job! Eric advises not to lift as it creates a dry bed rather than a dry child as they are still essentially peeing in their sleep. We did this with our first child and with her we feel it just prolonged the agony and we had to retrain from the lifting when she was older. It’s so bloody tempting though but I really feel we should ride the pissy wave and see where we end up? probably in a soggy stinky mess but crossing everything.

He was toilet trained by 2 with no accidents as well.

Night time staying dry is to do with production of a certain hormone that concentrates urine, they have no control of it. Stick to pull ups!!!

I have no advice, just tons of sympathy and a bedwetter I shall await patiently for the miracle cure...

My son gets nightmares and I've read that disturbing them ever so slightly a few hours after they start sleeping kicks them out of their sleep cycle just enough.

When I go to bed now I go and visit, gently rearrange bedding, say goodnight with a kiss. I wonder if you do this and just shift the sleep pattern on a different course whether they will wake a bit easier when bladder is full if they're in a lighter stage of sleep?

They’d had loads of squash at childcare which I don’t think helped. They usually only have water juice and milk - I stopped the squash when I was planning this move!

I think the alarm stage comes after youve tried it on your own first. I just desperately want someone to say their child pissed increasingly violently for 3 weeks and then gradually got dryer - to show a light at the end of the piss tunnel.

Dear lord the washing, the washing!

6 isn't even considered old for bed wetting please stop putting yourselves through this!

Bed mats are great, I should have shares in them for my dd!

Random - yeah i thought this too but on reading Eric website they say pull ups are so good that kids with enough vasopressin or whatever it’s called still habitually wee. So This is the trial stage where we see if she’s got enough - I just want to know how long this trial will go on!

Did I mention the washing...

Lellykelly - I got four brolly mats all layered up and they are awesome, feel just like sheets and no crinkles and just whip off and machine overnight. It’s the bloody duvet every day which is killing me.

Have you tried bed pads rather than pull ups? Might make your life easier.

We lift our just 7 yr old mostly because it means he's dry all night if we lift around 10pm and that therefore massively reduces the cost of having to buy pull ups.

The irony with him is he was night dry for a year between 2 and 3 - how smug we were!! I'm just hoping he'll grow out of it like his brother did but agree is super painful. Especially now he's starting to want to go on beaver camp/sleepovers etc.

Sorry posting before I saw your update.

Honestly, if the days are still problematic, I'd focus on getting those really good first, and then start working on nights. Better odds of success.

Chalky - that regression is mad! Did the doc advise why he was dry and then wet again?

Yep it’s sleepovers. They start young these days.

I hear you re the washing. Sometimes it feels like there’s not enough waterproof sheets in the world to make life easier. The problem is for us that she’ll go a good amount of time being dry and then has a lengthy relapse. Spoken to HV who says just ride it out. My DD is also too young for it to be a ‘problem’

Join my mantra - it’ll pass, it’ll pass, it’ll pass....repeat until sanity returns

Nocool - I might have to have another cream egg as that is a very good point.

Brolly mats, will try!

I made a spray out of laundry disenfectant, zoflora and water and spray on the duvet after I've put the cover in the wash, it saves washing it too much. And have at least two sheets, towels and mattress protectors down so I can whip off one set.

It's so stressful though, every night, for so long. You used to be able to claim low rate disability allowance for this, I never did, but always thought about it.

Think I'd use terry nappies to help save the duvet. That amount of piss suggests a lack of the hormone tbh!!

My older daughter was like this. And it did improve.

We continued to let her partially wet the bed, she wasn‘t upset.
I can‘t remember how long it took, more than a week, maybe 2?

She also had relapses but rarely.

My youngest also had bedwetting issues long after she was out if nappies day and night at 2, but we never put her in pullups as she was already 6. It was purely psychological due to issues at school. Every weekend morning and holiday the bed was dry, every school day it was wet.
We just put up with the mountain of washing, basically every day for two terms. She would have been mortified in nappies.

Would a duvet protector help to cut down on the washing?

https://www.brollysheets.co.uk/Product/BS087?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI3sgbGS2gIVr7vtCh15egVXEAQYASABEgKQcfDD_BwE

dont know if this helps, but I used to make the bed in 3 waterproof layers so if there was a wet bed I could strip the top layer, put child back in, retreat to sleep and then repeat as necessary. ERIC were so good with mine, and she did eventually grow out of it - we had daytime wetting at school til 6 or 7, and nights were probably about 8 til it was sorted. it's hard work.