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When a nation’s children marched, and their President ignored them - Trump cont.

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TheClaws · 29/03/2018 01:36

For me, the Parkland children being belittled and abused in so many ways is utterly heartbreaking to witness. But they have been more adult than the adults in their response. They have shown us what faith means, and bravery. POTUS? He is made much, much smaller.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3198255--In-politics-stupidity-is-not-a-handicap-We-know-this-now-Trump-thread-cont

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lionheart · 06/04/2018 09:14

www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/scott-pruitt-scandals-list_us_5ac66dffe4b09d0a1191647f

'At Least 23 Ethical Issues Are Dogging EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt.'

lionheart · 06/04/2018 10:07

www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/trump-defies-his-generalson-isis-and-syria

'President Trump, a foreign-policy neophyte increasingly emboldened to chart his own course, grew testy with the members of his national-security team when they huddled in the White House Situation Room on Tuesday to debate Syria. The split had been publicly telegraphed just hours earlier. At the U.S. Institute of Peace, I listened to top U.S. officials—one running the military campaign against isis and the other coördinating the international coalition—stress the need for American forces to stay in Syria.'

lionheart · 06/04/2018 11:03

edition.cnn.com/2016/04/02/politics/donald-trump-national-debt/index.html

'Donald Trump predicts he could rid the United States of its $19 trillion debt in two terms as president.'

lionheart · 06/04/2018 11:09

money.cnn.com/2018/04/05/news/trump-tariff-china-trade-war/index.html?sr=twCNNp040518trump-tariff-china-trade-war0720PMStory&CNNPolitics=Tw

'"In light of China's unfair retaliation, I have instructed the [United States Trade Representative] to consider whether $100 billion of additional tariffs would be appropriate," the president said in a statement.'

PerkingFaintly · 06/04/2018 11:39

So that bluster he would rid the US of $19 trillion debt was in April 2016.

I was going to comment on "how's that going, Donny".

But then I realised even to do so would be to treat it as something intended to be real. It's clear now that nothing he says has any basis in the real – he just makes noise to fill the space.

lionheart · 06/04/2018 13:48

Noises and blah-de-blah have consequences.

xmas

'The attorney for Stormy Daniels, the porn star who allegedly had a 2006 affair with Donald Trump, is celebrating the latest comments from the president with a very early holiday wish.

“First of all, Ari, let me say Merry Christmas to you,” Michael Avenatti said to MSNBC’s Ari Melber on Thursday. “Because it’s a very, very Merry Christmas this evening here over in our camp.”

Trump, who is somewhat prone to offering out-of-season Christmas wishes himself, had earlier in the day declared he wasn’t aware of a $130,000 payment to Daniels made by his personal attorney Michael Cohen days before the 2016 election.'

Roussette · 06/04/2018 14:16

Powerful article lion from emmaG.

I remember saying to Claig in another life how tourism would be hit greatly in the US, he/she of course disagreed hotly.

This drop in tourism revenue doesn't surprise me in the slightest. A close member of my family whose DP has Pakistani roots... they wouldn't dream of going at the moment and that's a great shame because there's sports competitions he's missed

www.nbcnews.com/business/travel/tourism-u-s-down-trump-took-office-costing-4-6-n840326

lionheart · 06/04/2018 15:06

I think that is a shame, Roussette.

lionheart · 06/04/2018 15:25

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-wildlife-policy-susan-combs-endangered-species-act-ryan-zinke-trump-a8291561.html

'A former Texas state official who once compared proposed endangered species listings to “incoming Scud missiles” and continued to fight the Endangered Species Act after she left government, now has a role in overseeing federal wildlife policy.'

lionheart · 06/04/2018 15:28

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-cia-drone-strike-generals-war-isis-iraq-syria-afghanistan-middle-east-a8291306.html

'Mr Trump urged the CIA to start arming its drones in Syria. “If you can do it in 10 days, get it done,” he said, according to two former officials familiar with the meeting.

Later, when the agency’s head of drone operations explained that the CIA had developed special munitions to limit civilian casualties, the president seemed unimpressed. Watching a previously recorded strike in which the agency held off on firing until the target had wandered away from a house with his family inside, Mr Trump asked, “Why did you wait?” one participant in the meeting recalled.'

TheNorthWestPawsage · 06/04/2018 18:21

Maybe he'll send Ivanka?

President Trump to skip White House Correspondents' Dinner again

For the second year in a row, President Trump is snubbing an annual celebration of the White House press corps.
The president said in a radio interview that he is "probably" skipping the White House Correspondents' Association's annual dinner.
Then the association said it had been told by the White House that he will not be coming.
"The White House has informed us that the president does not plan to participate in this year's dinner but that he will actively encourage members of the executive branch to attend and join us as we celebrate the First Amendment," the group's president, Margaret Talev, said Friday morning.

Skipping the dinner is a symbol of the president's deeply strained relationship with the news outlets that cover him. While he covets attention and approval from reporters and has friendly relationships with some of them he routinely attacks the "fake" media and tells the public not to trust outlets he opposes.

Trump's decision to skip last year's dinner stood out because presidents almost always attend and give a speech. Trump instead held a rally as a form of counter-programming.
This year's dinner is scheduled for April 28. At its heart the annual event is about recognizing the work of Washington reporters, presenting awards and raising funds for scholarships. But over the years it has become an A-list extravaganza, spawning a weekend full of events around the city.
Last year the weekend was a bit more subdued, in light of the president's absence and his anti-media attitude. Some attendees said they were happy to see the dinner take on a more serious tone. But there was also disappointment about the president's decision not to participate.
In recent weeks there has been speculation about what Trump would do this year.

In an interview on WABC on Friday morning, he put that to rest, saying "Pretty unlikely. I won't do it."
"I sort of feel like the press is so bad, and so fake," he added. "In many cases they literally make up sources." (They do not.)

cozietoesie · 06/04/2018 19:14

....actively encourage.....?

I doubt anyone will go from the WH senior staff. I'm not surprised.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 06/04/2018 19:44

Russia:

U.S. Targets Allies of Putin in Latest Round of Sanctions
Punitive measures taken in response to Russia’s subversion of democracy, cyber activities and Syria actions, officials say
www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-targets-russian-oligarchs-in-new-sanctions-1523018826

Bill Browder
@Billbrowder
This is huge: US sanctions Deripaska and Vekselberg (among others). Finally hitting Putin and his cronies where it counts

The US sanctions list on Putin cronies hits the bullseye of the Putin regime. Putin uses oligarch trustees to hold his illicit wealth. Since he values money more than human life, this action couldn’t be a more powerful message.

Just to clear up one important misconception, it doesn’t matter if any of the sanctioned Putin cronies knew in advance. Once a person is on the US Treasury sanctions list, no bank in the world will do business with that person. Period. They become financial pariahs.

Michael Carpenter
@mikercarpenter
More Michael Carpenter Retweeted Bill Browder
Furthermore, since Treasury designated the companies run by oligarchs (Basic Element, Rusal, Renova, etc.), it isn't as important that, for example, they shuffled their management structures in February. The companies are still being designated.

Alternate viewpoint:

It's No Coincidence These Russian Sanctions Took a Year to Show Up
Just enough time for the oligarchs to move their assets around.
www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a19701433/trump-russia-sanctions-delay/

And

Sarah Kendzior
@sarahkendzior
"Impose" is different than "enforce". The sanctions that have been imposed have not been truly enforced.

For example, Pompeo hosted Russian spies who are banned from US soil under sanctions, and now is going to be Secretary of State.

As this article notes, oligarchs targeted by sanctions have had so much time to move their assets that the effect is minimal. The slowness is and was intentional.

How are people still falling for the same shit? This is like when people thought kicking out the spies was a power move, and then Russia announced they'd just bring in more spies.

Or when Trump "imposed" sanctions on oligarchs the first few times, then didn't enforce them.

A reminder that the Trump admin has gutted the sanctions experts in State and Treasury. This raises questions as to who will actually enforce the new sanctions.
www.google.com/amp/foreignpolicy.com/2018/01/19/united-nations-sanctions-state-department-treasury-trump-s-government-faces-critical-brain-drain-of-sanctions-experts/amp/

And

Caroline O
@RVAwonk
The Treasury Department is imposing sanctions on:

-7 Russian oligarchs and 12 companies they own or control
-17 senior Russian officials
-A weapons trading company and its subsidiary, a Russian bank

twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/982243465898553345

And

Kremlin discussed support for Maria Butina as she visited NRA headquarters in 2014
Exclusively obtained photos show Sheriff Clarke and NRA leaders drinking with Russian politicians and Putin confidants in 2015

medium.com/@ScottMStedman/kremlin-discussed-support-for-maria-butina-as-she-visited-nra-headquarters-in-2014-eb18a21a04ec

And

Sergei Skripal is 'improving rapidly' from nerve agent poison attack
The former double agent is "no longer in a critical condition" from the attack, officials say.

www.nbcnews.com/news/world/sergei-skripal-improving-rapidly-nerve-agent-poison-attack-n863291

And

He Says He’s an Innocent Victim. Robert Mueller Says He’s a Spy.
www.nytimes.com/2018/04/06/world/europe/robert-mueller-kilimnik-ukraine-russia-manafort.html

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 06/04/2018 19:46

Mueller:

Re:
Mueller probe tracking down Trump business partners, with Cohen a focus of queries
www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article208090764.html

Brad Heath
@bradheath
Now that Manafort has copies of six of Mueller's warrant applications for information related to the current prosecution, and his co-defendant has pleaded guilty, what's government's possible justification for keeping them under seal?

Renato Mariotti
‏*@renato*_mariotti
More Renato Mariotti Retweeted Brad Heath
Alerting other subjects to the details of the investigation.

Also

Shimon Prokupecz
@ShimonPro
New Mueller court filing reveals a search warrant was obtained on March 9 for information related to 5 AT&T numbers. Filing says the search involves information related to “ongoing investigations that are not the subject of either of the current prosecutions involving Manafort.”

Scott Stedman
@ScottMStedman
More Scott Stedman Retweeted Shimon Prokupecz
March 9 would've been the same week that Mueller seized the electronics of the still unidentified Russian oligarch.

And

Betsy Woodruff
@woodruffbets
New: In 2013, Bob Mueller traveled to Ukraine, met Viktor Yanukovych, and thanked him for helping the FBI with the Boston Marathon bombing investigation

www.thedailybeast.com/when-mueller-worked-with-manaforts-dictator-client

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 06/04/2018 19:47

White supremacy:

Charlie Savage
@charlie_savage
After State Dept shuttered office that monitored released Guantanamo detainees, a former special envoys has declared: “Any catastrophic failures that happen from this point forward are the sole responsibility of the Trump administration.”

Senegal Eyes Deporting Ex-Detainees as Critics Accuse U.S. of Neglect
www.nytimes.com/2018/04/05/us/politics/guant

And

How Trump's White House Creates an Anti-Immigration Feedback Loop
The monomaniacal White House talking points.

www.weeklystandard.com/johnny-one-note/article/2012196

And

Trump conjures a new immigrant rape crisis
www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/04/05/trump-conjures-yet-another-immigrant-rape-epidemic/

[FYI

Amy Siskind
@Amy_Siskind
For those of you wondering what the US ambassador to Mexico is doing in the latest kerfuffle created by Trump over the "caravans," the answer is nothing, because we don't have one! Roberta Jacobson, who had decades of experience in diplomacy, resigned in Week 68. ]

And

Jordon Dyrdahl-Roberts
@dyrbert
The Pueblo Sin Fronteras Caravan in Mexica has been in the news a lot lately and the focus of Trump's obsession. How many people do you think are part of that group of migrants?

Just take a guess based on Trump's response to it.

Or, do you know how many Liberians will be subject to deportation after Trump suspended Deferred Enforced Departure?

Caravan: Less than 2,000
Liberians: Less than 5,000

Across the board, immigration is down, and Trump and Klan are talking about us being 'invaded.' It's racist, xenophobic scaremongering.

One of my least favorite commentaries on Trump is this idea that he's not a white nationalist, but just a populist. (If what's popular is white nationalism, and you're touting that philosophy, you ARE a white nationalist.)

We are past the point where you say, "This is how it starts." We have entered, "This is how it gets worse," territory. Every little move by this administration is building towards 'Never Again' happening again.

This hasn't been getting a lot of attention, but it's part of the trend.

53 days left for public comment on the Trump administrations plan to unnecessarily delay the immigration process by asking immigrants to turn over their social media profiles.

I'm paywalled out of the NYT piece about the growing fascism in the Trump admin, but I'm guessing the author and I agree on several points.

This is why I quit rather than help ICE. I could see the pattern of behavior. I know this tune. @sarahkendzior, @Amy_Siskind, and many others have been pointing it out, some since Trump announced, but it feels like a lot of people aren't getting the message.

Some people just think if they call Trump crazy and dumb that will somehow be enough to deny the reality of what is going on. Whether or not either claim is valid is irrelevant to the situation we find ourselves in. His supporters & enablers don't care.

Every behavior people use to try to armchair diagnose him are the things his supporters LOVE about him. And even if he's not that bright, his still capable of leading us down a very grim path.

We need to be stepping up our efforts to protect the immigrant community. If the moral imperative to do so isn't enough to convince you, then consider them the canary in the coal mine.

First, they came for...

I've since made it my job to try to stay on top of this & I'm focused on immigration because that's where Trump started. While he has hurt a lot of people, immigration is where he's focusing his efforts & rhetoric.

And

Want Asylum in America? Get Ready for Hell.
Under Trump, the already-arduous process of seeking asylum has become nearly unbearable.
www.thedailybeast.com/want-asylum-in-america-get-ready-for-hell

And

MartinLutherKing.Org is Owned by Neo-Nazis
The page by the Neo-Nazi Stormfront calls King a “sexual deviant” with a “propensity for violence,” and is a top result for searches of “Martin Luther King” on Google.
www.thedailybeast.com/martinlutherkingorg-is-owned-by-neo-nazis

And

The NRA Says Gun Control Is Racist. They Would Know.
If the NRA wants to talk about race, they could start by talking about their history of promoting racist gun laws
arcdigital.media/the-nra-says-gun-control-is-racist-they-would-know-d49c1de6ecc

And

Kyle Griffin
@kylegriffin1
The Office of Refugee Resettlement chief has instructed staff to give him a spreadsheet of any unaccompanied minors who have asked for an abortion. In at least one case he directed staff to read to one girl a description of what happens during an abortion.

www.nytimes.com/2018/04/05/us/politics/refugee-office-abortion-trump.html

And

Pompeo and Bolton Appointments Raise Alarm Over Ties to Anti-Islam Groups

www.nytimes.com/2018/04/06/us/pompeo-bolton-muslims.html

And

Trump Devotee Charged With Terrorist Plot Texted Undercover FBI Agent About Muslim 'Cleanse'
Patrick Stein, a Kansas militiaman whom the feds say planned to slaughter Somali refugees, opened up to a man he thought was an arms dealer.
www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/kansas-terrorist-plot-trump-militia-muslims_us_5ac3b664e4b09712fec52c6a

And

ICE is moving to deport a veteran after Mattis assured that would not happen

Exclusive: ICE is moving to deport an honorably discharged veteran with no criminal record despite Mattis assurances that would never happen
This is also the story of DHS setting up a fake college in an elaborate sting to catch fraudulent visa brokers. ICE has decided the students were low priority, but they are trying to deport someone DHS allowed into the military in the first place.

www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2018/04/04/mattis-said-immigrant-veterans-should-not-be-deported-ice-is-trying-anyway/

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 06/04/2018 19:47

Administration chaos/palace intrigue:

EXCLUSIVE: Saudi crown prince bragged that Jared Kushner gave him CIA intelligence about other Saudis saying 'here are your enemies' days before 'corruption crackdown' which led to torture and death
Saudi crown prince Mohammed bin Salman met with Jared Kushner in October
Salman has since bragged about using classified intelligence from Kushner as part of a crackdown on 'corrupt' princes and businessmen in Saudi Arabia
He said the intelligence from Kushner included information on those who were disloyal to Salman and who were his 'enemies', insiders tell DailyMail
Kushner's attorney's spokesman said it was 'false' that the president's son-in-law passed on secrets and that he was 'well aware of the rules'
The crown prince launched his crackdown on corruption in November, days after he met Kushner for talks in Riyadh
Hundreds were rounded up, including princes from rival parts of the Saudi royal family and some of the country's wealthiest businessmen
But the crackdown saw accusations of torture and at least one reported death

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5575395/Saudi-crown-prince-brags-Jared-Kushner-handed-U-S-intelligence.html

Also

The Associated Press
@AP
BREAKING: Trump administration approves deal to sell $1.3 billion in artillery to Saudi Arabia as crown prince visits US.

And

Alexandra Erin
@alexandraerin
Can we just stop for a moment to take in the fact that the head of the EPA, on top of being corrupt, is obviously in mortal terror for his very life at the hands of some unseen enemies, and no one in the media seems to be connecting those dots?
Ben Carson overspent on furniture because his wife felt slighted. Pruitt tried to get bulletproof desks to go with his bulletproof doors and bulletproof army of bodyguards.
I don't think he's afraid of environmentalists or public criticism when he goes out of his way to avoid crowds, when he makes everything in his life soundproof and bulletproof and bugproof.
"He took the job to dismantle the regulatory state." Okay that's what he's doing there. But I'm not convinced that's why he took the job.

I think it seemed like the best way to get government protection this side of turning informant.
Now, a cabinet secretary who is running from mobsters(???) is a cabinet secretary who is involved with mobsters is a cabinet secretary who is compromised. I think by the third ridiculous security expenditure it's worth asking the question, officially: who are you hiding from?
Like, this is so bizarre. In an abnormal situation this is a stand out. If this were a comedy, his security fixation and comments about running from his loan shark or bookie or an organ donor ring he double crossed would be a running gag: throwaway lines, funny background events
I'm just going to say that, especially if Pruitt gets ousted and not arrested for a while... he's probably going to be the first high level Trump staffer to catch a bullet. Because it's clear he's using the resources of the office to avoid that.
It's possible he's just got that particularly amoral version of a guilty conscience where he's aware that people should want him dead and he can't believe that they're not going to try. It's conceivable there's no real threat in particular against his life.
But the way he seems to be so consistently driven towards total security and completely unconcerned about being subtle about it makes me suspect that there is something going on.

Jeff Lindy
‏*@jlindy*
Replying to @alexandraerin
Was he involved in the general Trumpish mobbery/crime-flavored antics? He doesn't come to my mind as someone who was all mixed up in it prior to the actual administration.

Alexandra Erin
@alexandraerin
More Alexandra Erin Retweeted Jeff Lindy
I don't think he was, no.

Notice that no one else who is has the same fortress mentality that he does. Even Trump's paranoia seems measured in comparison.
Here are two possibilities worth considering. Not the only two. But two of them that come to my mind.
One is that he crossed somebody powerful and dangerous just by taking the position. Some particular oligarch (in the loosest sense of the word) had their particular pet they wanted in the EPA, to steer things not just For Industry generally, but in their own favor.
Sure, Pruitt can be bribed, but it's more economical to own a cabinet secretary than to rent.
The other is and this might seem counterintuitive, but stay with me Pruitt is the pet of someone powerful, and that's also who he's afraid of.
Like, Pruitt has been a powerful man doing dealings with more powerful men for a long time. But a cabinet position is a whole new level. So imagine that someone helped elevate him to the position but in the process he got a glimpse behind a veil and it scared the sugar out of him

And

Inside a White House in tumult, John Kelly’s clout dwindles
apnews.com/5471523603c24b278a0b71fd0196de5d

And

Grant Stern
@grantstern
Donald Trump used NBC's The Apprentice to sell Trump SoHo, which he and his three children, Erc, Don. Jr. and Ivanka co-owned and promoted.

The Trumps participated in a reality TV-driven fraud with Felix Sater involving the lower Manhattan hotel-condo.

thesternfacts.com/exclusive-newly-unsealed-court-docs-reveal-trump-family-involved-in-bank-fraud-with-russian-9bfbfd96ca1f?gi=b9eaf7bae01d

And

Kyle Griffin
@kylegriffin1
The State Department spent around $12,000,000 on private consultants for Rex Tillerson's much-touted agency "redesign," according to documents obtained by Politico.

In some cases, the consultants charged more than $300 an hour.

www.politico.com/story/2018/04/05/tillerson-state-department-consultants-503557

And

Anshu Siripurapu
@AnshuSiripurapu
Sources tell @InsideEPA that former WH aide Rob Porter leaked the damaging information about Scott Pruitt after his former girlfriend, who resigned from the EPA last week, told the WH about his alleged assaults of his ex-wives

insideepa.com/daily-news/fired-white-house-aide-reportedly-source-leaks-over-pruitts-ethics

And

Trump floated replacing Sessions with Pruitt this week despite scandals
edition.cnn.com/2018/04/05/politics/scott-pruitt-trump-jeff-sessions/index.html

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 06/04/2018 19:48

Social media:

U.S. congressional panels probe whether Russia got Facebook data - sources

uk.reuters.com/article/uk-facebook-cambridge-analytica-usa-cong/u-s-congressional-panels-probe-whether-russia-got-facebook-data-sources-idUKKCN1HC2MM

And

Hard Questions: Q&A with Mark Zuckerberg on Protecting People’s Information
newsroom.fb.com/news/2018/04/hard-questions-protecting-peoples-information/

Carole Cadwalladr
@carolecadwalla
Facebook is a US company that responds to the US press & US legislators. These were ‘Hard Questions’ supposedly. That almost completely ignored the rest of the world. It’s not an accident @DamianCollins that he’s refusing to come to the UK & answer your qs
Zuck took just one just q each from UK, Canada, Mexico...everything else was US. Here he is responding to @BBCRoryCJ about how he will face Congress but other ‘top folks’ will come to UK. Do we need to start thinking of Facebook as a hostile non-state actor? Genuine q
Cambridge Analytica is under investigation for its role in referendum. As is its affiliate AIQ. Yet Zuck made no mention of referendum. Why?
Facebook played a role, maybe a decisive one, in the referendum. If Facebook was a state we wouldn’t allow it. Yet it has more power than many nation states. And it is not co-operating with our national investigations. This is a national security issue, no?

[the next day, which is today!]

Carole Cadwalladr
@carolecadwalla
Blimey. Look at this. @DamianCollins DCMS committee is becoming a force to behold. The next batch of witnesses include Cambridge Analytica's Alexander Nix, Brittany Kaiser, Aleksandr Kogan & Facebook's CTO.

twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/982197130826727424

Carole Cadwalladr
@carolecadwalla
America! Is the UK Parliament whipping your arse? (Translation: "ass")
You've got Zuckerberg though. So can you please ask him about a) Brexit b) why he's refused to speak to us. Thanks, Britain.

And

Megha Rajagopalan
@meghara
Mark Zuckerberg told @ezraklein that the company's own "systems" stopped Facebook messages inciting violence in Myanmar.

Now a group of NGOs in the country has issued an open letter saying that the system he's talking about was actually them.

www.buzzfeed.com/meghara/zuckerberg-open-letter-hate-speech-myanmar

And

Caroline O.
@RVAwonk
Just a reminder from this Nov. 2016 article: Facebook has had the tools to fight disinformation for a long time — but they chose not to use them because they feared right-wing backlash.

gizmodo.com/facebooks-fight-against-fake-news-was-undercut-by-fear-1788808204

And

Facebook sent a doctor on a secret mission to ask hospitals to share patient data
Facebook was in talks with top hospitals and other medical groups as recently as last month about a proposal to share data about the social networks of their most vulnerable patients.
The idea was to build profiles of people that included their medical conditions, information that health systems have, as well as social and economic factors gleaned from Facebook.
Facebook said the project is on hiatus so it can focus on "other important work, including doing a better job of protecting people's data."

www.cnbc.com/2018/04/05/facebook-building-8-explored-data-sharing-agreement-with-hospitals.html

And

Jeremy Ashkenas
@jashkenas
You know, I really hate to keep beating a downed zuckerberg, but to the extent that expensive patents indicate corporate intent and direction —

Come along for a ride, and let’s browse a few of Facebook’s recent U.S.P.T.O. patent applications…

In “Systems and methods of eye tracking control”, Facebook describes a system that watches your eye movements to track “the object of interest,” or “point of regard.”

Special infrared LEDs are used to shine into your pupil and cornea to determine gaze.

patents.google.com/patent/US20180046248A1/en

In “Soft matching user identifiers,“ Facebook describes how sending an innocuous event invite to your uploaded contact can trigger a “bounce-back” message, including cookies, device UUIDs, and other unique information for identity matching purposes.

patents.google.com/patent/US20180025082A1/en

Next! Facebook explains a “user influence score,” and how

“the user influence score can be decreased when the sender is reported to be associated, within a specified time period, with other users who are reported to be associated with undesired content.”

patents.google.com/patent/US20180041464A1/en

In another patent, Facebook writes:

“…the log may record information about actions users perform on a third party system, including webpage viewing histories, advertisements that were engaged, purchases made, and other patterns from shopping and buying”

patents.google.com/patent/US20180048616A1/en

In (now newsy!) “Dynamic enforcement of privacy settings…” FB dreams of:

“a message from the social networking system to the external system requesting the external system to cease using the information obtained in the previously transmitted response.”

patents.google.com/patent/US20180046826A1/en

In “Sentiment polarity for users,” Facebook reads your comments for positive or negative “affinity scores”, and generates “trust scores” for strong feelings.

“Data sets from trusted users are then used as a training set to train a machine learning model”

patents.google.com/patent/US20180012146A1/en

In “Identifying and using identities”:

“A list of people known to a user is maintained.”

“the people known to a user may be inferred by monitoring the actions of the user.”

“identifiers also may be inferred based on indicia other than user actions.”

patents.google.com/patent/US20170374170A1/en

In “Implicit Contacts in an Online Social Network” Facebook says it

“may determine the social-graph affinity of various social-graph entities for each other”

“the overall affinity may change based on continued monitoring of the actions or relationships“

patents.google.com/patent/US20180054494A1/en

In a new travel rec’s patent, FB writes:

“The system may monitor such actions on the online social network, on a third-party system, on other suitable systems, or any combination thereof. Any suitable type of user actions may be tracked or monitored.”

patents.google.com/patent/US20180035254A1/en

In our final patent, Facebook discusses advertising based on what you browse:

“The social networking system monitors implicit interactions between the user and objects of the social networking system with which the user has not established a connection”

patents.google.com/patent/US20170324820A1/en

Whew! That was a lot of patent-ese!

But I think — as one might say at the Times — a portrait emerges of the kind of surveillance machine Facebook aspires to continue constructing.

For a good wine pairing, follow up with @chetfaliszek’s thread on FB+VR:Whew! That was a lot of patent-ese!

But I think — as one might say at the Times — a portrait emerges of the kind of surveillance machine Facebook aspires to continue constructing.

For a good wine pairing, follow up with @chetfaliszek’s thread on FB+VR:

twitter.com/chetfaliszek/status/980861065989783552

Alright, folks — since you enjoyed the previous Facebook patent thread so much, you get a bonus round!

Remember: I’m only skimming a handful of these patent applications. There are over 11,000 of them.

patents.google.com/?assignee=facebook+inc.&oq=facebook+inc.&sort=new

Here we go...

And

Without data-targeted ads, Facebook would look like a pay service, Sandberg says
While Facebook does not sell users' information or give it away, Sandberg said, "our service depends on your data."
www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/users-would-have-pay-opt-out-all-facebook-ads-sheryl-n863151

And

Peter Jukes
@peterjukes
"Big data companies (Google, Facebook etc) have already assumed many functions previously associated with the state, from cartography to surveillance. Now they are the primary gatekeepers of social reality"

The demise of the nation state
After decades of globalisation, our political system has become obsolete – and spasms of resurgent nationalism are a sign of its irreversible decline.
www.theguardian.com/news/2018/apr/05/demise-of-the-nation-state-rana-dasgupta