Parent and child parking

[spiderbear]

It winds me up so much when people without children park in 'parent and child' parking. Is it just me that has a go?? I just can't help it. I find them so ignorant and selfish. Just had to say something to someone at Tesco- she was with her (I'm guessing 20yr old) daughter.. and wouldn't even look me in the face.. I'm heavily pregs and also with a 2 yr old. But her daughter piped up saying they'd just dropped her dad and sister off at the entrance - which was rubbish as we'd been behind them coming into the car park!!
Am I out of order having a go ?? Should I just let it be? Or should supermarkets do more to stop this themselves??

Ok these threads never end well but I have disabilities a 21/2yr old and a 3months old and if their is no parent and child I never park in disabled due to being shouted down quite nastily one day.

Do you have a blue badge? Don’t let it put you off if you do, you’re entitled to park in blue badge spaces if you’ve got one.

Thing is though without a blue badge you really shouldn't be in a disabled bay. They are enforceable unlike p&c.

This is said by the way knowing how hard they are to get. I had to wait a few years myself so got restricted to where I could go and had to stay in a lot.

LittleLionMansMummy I've never seen boy racers parked in P&C or blue badge spaces where I live. I have seen sour faced judgemental people who decided my husband wasn't disabled enough to deserve a space. Funny really as he gets higher rate for mobility so his disability is well recognised.

Ok these threads never end well but I have disabilities a 21/2yr old and a 3months old and if their is no parent and child I never park in disabled due to being shouted down quite nastily one day. For some reason people seem to think the young can't be disabled and even more so that they can't have children and be disabled. Even medical people are guilty of this sometimes. Don't let them get to you, you have every right to a blue badge space if you have a badge and a P&C space if your children are with you. If people hassle you ask for support in the store, lots of the supermarkets have security staff now.

I don't give a flying fig where the parent and child spaces are - they can be as far away from the supermarket as possible. But I do need the extra space to open the door wide enough to get my 3 year old out of the car. He has a turning car seat and you do have to open the door wide.

Projecting much peach?

I will state it again. Your dh wouldn't have warranted a hard stare from me, so there's really no need for the outrage.

I'm also well aware of hidden disabilities in younger people, but won't go into that. It's fairly clear who I'm directing my frustration at from what I've said already. I'd much rather your dh uses the space than a boy racer, and I'm fairly certain you'd agree.

But I do need the extra space to open the door wide enough to get my 3 year old out of the car. He has a turning car seat and you do have to open the door wide.

Perhaps you'd be better with sliding doors instead of assuming you're going to have the space everywhere you go??

"Next time I'll get the 'parking police' i.e. the store, to come and say something shall I?"

I have no problem with talking to those who are allowed to ask (ie own the land) and are likely to have an awareness of reasonable adjustment. It's random gobshites who are unlikely to recognise reasonable adjustment if it bit them on the arse that I object to. Talk to the store all you want.

Second thread I've had to say 🎉👏🎉👏 to sock

Projecting much peach? You mean basing my view on my own experience? Yes, don't we all. If you saw my husband at 30 in his flash expensive car you might well have described him as a "boy racer" just as others judged him because he didn't fit with what they thought a disabled person should look like. Why not just leave other people alone, I would far rather have someone not entitled use a space than have someone like Mustang27 feel they can't use a space because of judgemental attitudes.

Perhaps you'd be better with sliding doors instead of assuming you're going to have the space everywhere you go?? With cars being so much bigger than they used to be I think sliding doors on all cars would be a great idea.

Married not everyone can afford to change their car to meet that criteria.

I do have a badge but as pps have said doesn't stop people making accusations that's it fake or not mine.

Today I cried after it took me 40 minutes to try and get a screaming DS in to his car seat while the man parked on the line of his space sat on his phone. I’m heavily pregnant so it’s a squeeze at the best of times, let alone with a tantruming toddler. I did politely ask if he’d mind straightening up a bit and he told me he was working

To be honest, P & C Parking wasn’t available in our parents days so we get little sympathy from them but neither were cars so big then, parking spaces so small and so much traffic. I did attempt to use them with a very newly born first child feeling like a rabbit caught in the headlights at how to actually manage it all but you soon adapt, I saw the total abuse of them so I tended to plan my shopping for the time they were least likely to be abused! It all boils down to a persons personal ethics and moral code, I would never use one, I am actually capable of walking a little further to the store, then you get the totally entitled whose absolute god given right is paramount above all others!!! It goes on and on! I emigrated to OZ, P and C parking didn’t exist then, it’s becoming more apparent now but is very blasé and no one really cares about it, however, they have ‘Senior’ parking, for those over a certain age, right in front of the store along with the disabled bays and I can tell you, everyone respects the seniors parking and would never ever dream of using it, it would actually feel quite shameful to be seen
Arming there, again, all down to morals and ethics xxx

Would agree with the cars being bigger.

Married not everyone can afford to change their car to meet that criteria.

My comment was for the person who's rotating child seat needs a car door opened completely. It's common sense to point out these type of seats are more suited to a car with sliding doors.

Ah sorry I totally misinterpreted Married.

I'm sorry @Icklepickle101 that sounds like it was horrible situation. I understand he was working but I'm sure he could have said give me a minute and moved for you . Some people just like to watch other people suffer.

I think the key issue with parent & child spaces is that they are bigger spaces, they don't necessarily need to be closer to the store, we just need the extra space to open the doors wide enough to put children in car seats and as many have mentioned cars tend to be bigger these days so that room is even more of a necessity.

If they were further away from the store there wouldn't be the problem with other people using them.

The older generation don't understand. Cars weren't so big in their day and more importantly they didn't have car seats.

If I politely say "Excuse me, I'm not sure if you realise but you've parked in a P&C space" and someone replied "My teenage son has autism and ADHD and I need to use the space" I'd say "crack on". I think most people would

If the BB spaces are full, then the next option is P+C in order for my disabled young adult relative to get in and out of the car easily.

Do you check to see if there is a BB on the dashboard before you start noseying into peoples' "rights" to park in a P+C space?

You'd have been told that because it's none of your business, I'll disclose my young relative's confidential medical diagnoses to you when you provide me with yours. You'd also have had their Blue Badge waved at you in a non-menacing fashion.

By all means go and ask store security to intervene, they would only tell you how out of order you are being with your self-appointed parking police stance.

And of far more concern to me, who only knows what sort of a state that would have caused my relative to be in, terrified probably and not understanding why someone was verbally attacking me. It could take hours for them to recover.

Can you explain why we should have to put up with that level of intrusion and harassment from people like you just to go supermarket or retail park shopping?

Marriedwithchildren5 I can't afford to change my car I'm afraid. I really do need the rotating seat though as I have a neuromuscular condition that make it hard for me to lift my little boy. He's starting to be able to climb in himself now which is helpful. Also at the person that commented that our parents didn't have parent and child spaces - yeas but they didn't have car seats either! I sat on my mum's lap in the front with no seatbelt!!

Some of us didn't have cars let alone car seats!

@peacheachpearplum then you don't know the struggle of car seats and therefore value of p&c spaces! God this winds me up, older generation banging on about us having it easier. 1) so what, 2) mums had different lives then and didn't have to cram the weekly shop into a snatched hour after work or at the weekend when the supermarket is bloody rammed and you can't find a nice isolated space with enough width to get the kids out!!

How I'd have loved to raise my children like my mother and amble along various butchers and greengrocers on my days with my silver cross and 3 children merrily sitting in it. No Tesco Sunday mania for her.

Senior spaces would be bloody marvellous. It used to really annoy me that my mum who didn't walk very well had no right to any designated parking when she was over 90. We often struggled to get her into the store when I took her shopping.

Bluelady I completely agree. It needs renaming from parent and child to something which includes people who need to open the door wide, fit between cars, get pushchairs/walking aids etc.

A sainsburies locally has “wide spaces” which is great. They still have disabled spaces but the others are allocated as wide spaces