Fuming with work colleague

[mamma12]

I work with an absolute bell end. He does no work, is openly racist (proudly admits to voting UKIP and told me he moved from an area he lived "because too many black people started moving in"). My daughter is mixed race. He has been reported and my manager has done nothing about this.

Today he overhead myself and other colleagues discussing how little work he does. He walked in and said I can hear you. I explained point by point why I had said what I said. He couldn't argue with me because I only made factual statements.

I am fuming with him and my manager. She bitches about him constantly and is paid to manage him.

It's a very small company and there is no one superior to my manager I can complain to.

The racist comments were made more than three months ago so there is no legal action I can instigate.

I need the money but I am just so tempted to go in tomorrow and tell them where they can stick their shitty job. I'm almost more annoyed with my manger that the racist pillock because I expected more of her.

AIBU to want to tell them both to F off. I'm livid.

I once worked with a guy from South Africa who, during training said, I shit you not: "I'm so glad there's no darkies working here". I don't think I've ever been speechless but I was struck dumb by that comment

He was fired the next day. Complain, complain and complain some more to HR.

Quite frankly I am really surprised that anyone could possibly think that a person who says they want to move out of an area because of 'all the blacks moving in' is not a racist. This is an outrageous statement and is blatantly racist. The OP isn't drip feeding, she gave one example of the kind of person this man is, she doesn't need to build a dossier for us, but was only forced to 'drip feed' after some people unbelievably didn't see how utter revolting his original comment was
He sounds like a total prick but I would be very careful how you play this from here. A diary is a good suggestion.

Bundlesmads. Don’t think you have to have a mixed race child to find comments such as these offensive and unacceptable?

Yes of course, but there’s been three very similar threads over the same amount of days.

I work with a few people like this, I let it go over my head and pity their ignorance.
Sticks and stones...

Complain to the manager, if they don't do anything complain to the next one up, complain to HR.

Do not sit in a room with colleagues bitching about a colleague, it will get you in to trouble.

Just because you're talking 'factually' doesn't mean it isn't bullying. If a group of people were talking about how fat a 20 stone woman was, saying how she is obese etc. They are talking factually but it would still be considered bullying.

Do not sit in a room with colleagues bitching about a colleague, it will get you in to trouble

This... absolutely this.

Doing this will give HIM ammunition as a come-back. Once he plays the "she doesn't like me, she bitches about me behind my back, makes nasty comments about me not working and being racist - it's all because I voted UKIP and she doesn't like me" card you do not have a leg to stand on.

I have watched this scenario play out a couple of times with a colleague of mine. She wins the sympathy vote every time - because bitchy gossip is not nice.

Does your work have a grievance policy and procedure? Log his comments and take out a grievance.
Does your work have an Equal Opportunities policy or staff conduct policy that covers racist comments?

Have you put your concerns (about the racist comments) in writing to your manager? Keep a log of reports to your manager.

I would phone ACAS for a chat.

Oh, and people like him, who blame black people, immigration, the gvt, the EU, for everything wrong in their lives will quickly turn any blame they can in you. Re the office discussion.

Not that it makes his comments great, but on the other hand, he is within his rights to want to move to an area that has less black people

Wow, kimanda. This reminds me why I now tend to stay clear of AIBU. The average IQ really has dropped about 50 points in the past year or so.

Reminder for you- no, people are not allowed to say stuff like that to their work colleagues. OP, make a formal complaint.

Why though Susan??

How do you feel about the blacks/Asians saying/doing the same thing?

Sorry, Joanna, not going to debate anything with someone spouting about 'racism against whites' and trying to suggest that it's okay to make racist remarks at work (and yes, saying you moved somewhere because of all the black people is racist).

Not surprised you voted UKIP, they sound like your kind of people.

Have a nice day.

Joanna57 is the situation you mentioned about your area not different to what he said? What he said is like you moving out of your “white”area because these blacks/Asians started moving into your area.

Johanna: if people (including Asian people) sit at work making derogatory comments about not wanting to live near people of a racial or ethnic characteristic because they say they are burglars, then yes they can be spoken to.

No one can or should police what goes in on people’s heads. What others are subjected to at work is the issue.

“Pandered to”? Communities usually build their own mosques , gurdwaras, churches....

Glad they pop back to pander to tne British love of curry to run your takeaway, though.

Joanna, everything you have written supports what OP says about UKIP attracting racist voters.

Apart from your awful work colleague, I'm also sorry that your thread attracted such a lot of rather poor quality GF posters. OP said he has made openly racist remarks. Later on she gives examples and is accused of drip-feeding. If I worked for MN I would exterminate the accounts of these posters who race to be the first to make the cuntiest posts on serious threads.

It is very hard to work with someone like that.
People do talk to each other / have a moan that's human nature.
You need to get a line that you say to him repeatedly.
Please only talk to me about work. Or something like that.
Email him what you need from him or what you need him to do. Cc your manager into these emails. This is proof you cannot complete your work because of him.
Only communicate verbally when necessary.
He's unpleasant to talk to so you'll actually be in a better working atmosphere for doing this.

I can't believe some of the replies on here OP, I can't believe you're getting accused of bullying for one whilst some posters ignore what's he's doing.

Anyway, I would look for a new job as I doubt your manager is going to sort it out.

It is coming to something when the rush to be contrary on AIBU means people support racism. OP, you need and your colleagues need to record every racist remark and report them formally to your manager; it would also be helpful if, rather than discussing his laziness amongst yourselves, everyone affected by it opened formal complaints under the grievance procedure. And in any event in your shoes I would start looking for another job.

Wow this man is vile...plain and simple!! I have a friend whose going through something similar her daughter is mixed race Asian and her colleague makes comments about pork (she constantly asks if she's offending her when she brings her lunches with pork in-my friend always replies no like I've told you many times before) and too many Mosques not enough churches...where they live there's 8 churches of a mixture catholic, C of E, 7 day Adventist, Pentecostal can't remember the others, a community centre Mosque & Buddhist that hires and uses the back room, a synagogue and a Sikh temple (which I think the colleague is thinking is a Mosque 🙄) and laws should be brought back to stop people 'mixing' the joke is on her as my friend is very modern, drinks, married to someone white and only goes to prayer if someone has died and even then refuses to cover her hair! O and on a Sunday bi monthly meets up with our group and usually eats a bacon buttie!

luckily OP it's a small minority of idiots who think like your colleague on this thread! I like to believe that for every Bigot there's at least 20 that aren't!!

Do not say anything else at work!! Like previous posters have said ...it could be turned round on you...he sounds like the type of person to do that!! document everything!! Write dates, times and who was there to witness it! With the work part document how and why it is affecting your work and what impact it has...If your work/HR doesn't do anything contact ACAS and citizens advice! As much as you shouldn't have to be prepared to look for another job!!

Yes unfortunately in 2018 this horrid bigotry is still going on...Brexit has upheaved fear and prejudice amongst a mixture of people and there seems to be no filter hopefully with people standing up for what's right like the majority on this thread the small bigoted minded will stay in the minority and things will move forward to a more positive place for everyone!

really can't believe some of the comments on this. OP says someone made a racist comment and she had a half black child and some moron replies saying 'does he know you have a half black child though?' like that makes it any different racism is racism some of the comments on this thread are vile

The fact of many threads about people making racists comments doesn't mean that this thread is a troll. It means that racism is still prevalent in this county, moving house because you live near black people is racist. Moving house because you live near white people is racist. Racism is racism and the comment about racism loosing its meaning is utter bollocks!! i've been a victim of racism myself, my daughter is a 1/4 black and if i'd had to listen to the comments the OP's posted i would definitely be trying to do something about it, so disappointing as i really did think we as a country had moved on a bit and become more accepting of other people but no, secret racists that 'don't think racism even exists' are still around, and i'm sorry but the majority of those are white and racism hasn't affected them before in their lives

"Hitler had some good ideas' - this guy is a twat. A figure for pity, surely?

You need to ignore him. Definitely stop talking about him with colleagues because that isn't the right thing to do. It can be viewed as bullying and tbh, it just stokes the fire. Stop speaking to him, reacting and listening to his BS.

Poor you, If this was happening within my business I’d be extremely concerned. I might be able to help with a factual response, I’m Chief Exec of a large business so have an HR department but I have dealt with a few tricky staffing issues with their help over the last 20 years or so. My advise would be. 1) write as much of this down as you can and include dates wherever possible, it’s not quite right that you have a 3 month cut off. Include how these comments make you feel. Firstly write to your line manager and ask for a response in writing detailing the action she intends to take to resolve the issue. Be clear about what your preferred outcome would be. His behaviour falls quite clearly into the harassment space and as it is race related it was made unlawful in the Equality Act in 2010. I had a similar situation in my business a long time ago and I fired the individual on the same day the complaint was made (the behaviour was witnessed so it was straightforward) would send a copy of the letter to the business owner, if you don’t know who this is you can look it up on the companies house website. 2) I would ring ACAS for confidential free advice. If you aren’t happy with the outcome you should go tribunal, again ACAS can help you achieve this. You are absolutely right not to accept this. I hope that by the time your daughter grows up we will have made some progress on this completely unacceptable issue.
Good luck
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