Fuming with work colleague

[mamma12]

I work with an absolute bell end. He does no work, is openly racist (proudly admits to voting UKIP and told me he moved from an area he lived "because too many black people started moving in"). My daughter is mixed race. He has been reported and my manager has done nothing about this.

Today he overhead myself and other colleagues discussing how little work he does. He walked in and said I can hear you. I explained point by point why I had said what I said. He couldn't argue with me because I only made factual statements.

I am fuming with him and my manager. She bitches about him constantly and is paid to manage him.

It's a very small company and there is no one superior to my manager I can complain to.

The racist comments were made more than three months ago so there is no legal action I can instigate.

I need the money but I am just so tempted to go in tomorrow and tell them where they can stick their shitty job. I'm almost more annoyed with my manger that the racist pillock because I expected more of her.

AIBU to want to tell them both to F off. I'm livid.

@Dipitydoda I could list the racist comments he has made all night. I don't "hate" anyone, not even the racist. I actually pity him for being so ignorant and walking round with such hatred in his heart. His lack of work affects not only morale in the team but also really negatively impacts the type of work we do which is very sad. His lack of work impacts on me and all of my colleagues very negatively in terms of both work load and morale. He openly admits that he does no work. It's not something he's not aware of.

@mama12

kimanda he stated that he moved out when black people started moving in because everyone knows that once black people move in the burglary rate goes up.

He has also said that "all African people stink", that Hitler "had some good ideas". I could go on and on. These are just a few of the comments he has made to me personally. He has said many many other racist comments to other people.

Talk about drip feeding!

You are now saying he has said all of that up there ^

You never mentioned that until around your 10th post!

Did he REALLY say all this?!

Sorry but I find it hard to believe that anyone would have come out with all the comments you are claiming he has come out with.

He said 'All African people stink?'

Really.........?

Yawn

@kimanda if I were to list all of the racist comments he had made my original post would be about ten pages long. If you genuinely think someone would have time to make up something like that your mind must work in a very different way to mine. You can believe what you want to believe. It makes zero odds to me.

The racist comment was obviously unacceptable. But so was you discussion with your colleagues about how little work he does. And also he is entitled to vote UKIP if he wants to.

Sorry OP, but you are not coming across well on this thread.

unfortunately i have a relative who makes remarks like this and they have mixed race gc

i try not to see them if i dont have to

OP you say he does no work....how does he get away with this ?

@GabsAlot there's a lot of bloody awful people in this country who think it's acceptable to say things like this. I can only hope when my daughter is my age people with such dubious views will be in a tiny minority. From reading some of the comments on here, it would seem that day is a long way off xx

You have reported his racist comments to his manager who has done nothing about it. Your problem seems to be not only with him but the manager too and if it is a small company there is very little you can do. Either ignore it as ignorant racist comments and just get on with your work or leave. The management seems to be ineffective if they let him get away with doing no work. Have you asked them again if they intend dealing with it?

Drip drip

Sounds like there is a leak in here

What's the frievance procedure?

I think OP is getting a very hard time.

I don't know what you can do OP. I similarly work for a shit boss who does nothing about one of my colleagues who does nothing in work. My boss has openly admitted they knows he/she does limited work and that he/she is trouble. Boss is frightened of the employee and how they might accuse her of bullying or something.

I would say just be careful of talking about him as he sounds so twisted that he probably could convince someone that you are all ganging up on him. Happened in my work place before I arrived and even though management knew the truth, the way things were presented there was nothing they could do but to take their side of bullying.

Racism is disgusting and how anyone can defend it is beyond me.

I can’t believe what some are saying here. Kimanda people are like this unfortunately especially emboldened after Brexit vote, they seem to think it’s legitamised this sort of talk.
Before my husband retired last year was with two senior guys who did monkey impressions when a black colleague walked past.
It’s offensive and horrible to deal with in a workplace because you can’t avoid them.
Put your problems to HR. It would be helpful if other colleagues also did this. I’d be looking around for another job at the same time.

I would make an effort to talk to him OP. Something sounds off here and you could possibly be right-fighting - you say he is not pulling his weight and he walks in and hears you all bitching about him - that's one way to entrench a person in a defensive mode. I am not buying the racist part because of how you have put it across. You say you could go on and on and you haven't really made a clear argument for it. Slow down, why not talk to the person and give him a chance, rather than slay him for possibly a throwaway comment. It does sound a little bullying.

All his remarks are horrible but if there is one thing l hate its people talking about a colleague behind their back. That kind of workplace gossiping and backbiting pulls a whole staff down and if l was a manager l would put a stop to that too. You need to be professional in your dealings in the workplace too so any complaints about his talk and work should go through the manager in an official way not in a chatting way. If l entered a room to hear my colleagues talking about me l would be very upset and so would you.

If you can do nothing, have no recourse, I think you need to leave. You’re trying to fight against a poor company culture. And you can’t. Employ your anger and energy wisely to find another job.

I find it hard to believe that people think people wouldn’t say stuff like this. There are racist people who think nothing of making comments like this.

I feel for you op. The manager should be dealing with it. I had a staff member making unacceptable comments. I dealt with it robustly. It. It not only sent a message to that person but also to the rest of the team as although I kept it confidential they told everyone that what action I had taken.

Make a note of any mor comments and who was there at the time and report.

You can’t change this mans mindset, the best you can do is to keep notes of every time he says something racist either to you or within earshot of you and keep reporting it.
I’d be looking for another job too.

Amazed that there are actually people on here saying the OP should put up with this situation!

OP, by law your company has to have a grievance procedure so I would suggest that you speak to your manager again outlining the issues and inform them that if no action is taken you will raise this formally under the grievance procedure (assuming you want to do that as sounds like it's the only way to get this resolved).

Raising a grievance doesn't mean that the other person will automatically be disciplined or sacked, it just means the company will have no option but to investigate this. It may be that as a result they can provide some training or closer support/supervision for the other employee.

You don't need to have one of the protected characteristics yourself to raise a claim of discrimination, this can be 'by association' for example if this employee is making racist comments because of your daughter.

You don't have to put up with this and you do have options but appreciate these require you to possibly put yourself in his 'line of fire' which, depending on the other person, might not be an option you want to take.

If so, I'd suggest you continue to quietly keep a note on all the issues and continue to raise this directly with your manager. Whatever you do, stop raising issues about him behind his back etc as that could amount to harassment so don't do anything that jeapordises your position either.

Hope this gets sorted soon as sounds really unpleasant.

You said that the remarks were made 3 months ago. Does that mean he has now stopped making unacceptable remarks?

If he is continuing surely your manager needs to tackle the issue again.

Wow. There have been such a lot of posts recently about white women with mixed race children facing really extreme public racism which nobody will challenge. How odd they should all happen at the same time.

OP I don't understand why you are getting a hard time. You are rightly angry and upset by this person. Didn't people read the opening post? He said he moved out of an area because there were too many black people! How are the OP's further comments dripfeeds when nothing she reports him saying afterwards are really any worse than that?

He sounds vile. I'm not sure what to suggest though. I think if I were you I would be going to the manager and making it clear I would have to start looking for other work if nothing was done. Might shame her into action.

Bundlesmads. Don’t think you have to have a mixed race child to find comments such as these offensive and unacceptable?

The OP has said several times that she’s as cheesed off with the manager not dealing with this and she’s right, it’s the employers job to sort this out.

I’m not some militant unionist by any stretch of the imagination so telling someone to raise a formal complaint isn’t something I do lightly but I would genuinely find comments such as his uncomfortable to be around and totally unnecessary in the workplace.