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To wonder if you judge people who work in "crap" jobs, and if so why?

354 replies

ReallyThough100 · 16/03/2018 15:17

So, cleaners, dishwashers, fast food workers. Jobs seen as "dead end" and a bit shit. I have a job people think this about, and it often shows unfortunately (outside of work more than in it).
Aibu to ask, do you judge people who do this and what's the reasoning behind it?

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BatshitCrazyWoman · 16/03/2018 19:36

I do not particularly well paid job. I do it very well, and work in a great place where we are all treated equally (would be very outing to say where!). We have a new member of staff who seems to have an unfortunate manner. She's to decided I am the lowest, most menial person in the place, and that she can boss me around (she's not my line manager). I'm educated to a higher level than her (there are various reasons why I'm doing the job I am, all perfectly valid), and have a much nicer way with me. I do judge her.

I don't judge anyone for the job they do, no.

LoveInTokyo · 16/03/2018 19:37

The Monopoly sounds really fun!

Ivebeenaroundtheblock · 16/03/2018 19:41

People do different jobs at different times of their life. Sometimes the stories of “why” are very interesting. I’ve know a few fellows who retired early and now proudly do meanial work. I smile at the thought that someone might think poor sod working at 57 for peanuts, knowing they are well off.

Cantspell2 · 16/03/2018 19:48

A few years ago I worked in housekeeping ie cleaner at a local hospital.
Doctors thought we were their own personal skivvies leaving takeaway containers in break rooms and on call rooms but were to our faces quite polite.
Nurses were a mixed bunch with some treating us well and others not so well but the worst of the lot were the midwives. I hated being assigned to the maternity unit. They Talked down to us and acted oh so superior all the time but were incapable of washing their own dirty plates.
I was glad to leave even though the hours were ideal when my children were young.

stressedoutpa · 16/03/2018 19:53

Absolutely not.

I am always kind and friendly to everyone whatever job they do. Someone needs to collect the bins and sweep the streets. What would it achieve if you judged someone for it?

isseywithcats · 16/03/2018 19:53

i work in what you would term a crap job im a kitchen cleaner at a chain restaurant i do my job because i start early and finish at lunch time so i have the rest of the day to myself to do things i like doing and yes i have a degree but prefer to not be in a job where lots is expected of me, and i do get satisfaction from my job when i get to the end of the kitchen look back and its gleaming clean, and non of the chefs or managers treat me or the front of house cleaners any different

RosaRosaRose · 16/03/2018 19:54

Happy, now, to work with a company that has good values.
Every person that works with us, at whatever level, outsourced or employed, shares those values and is an equal contributor.
But you have to share the values.

gussyfinknottle · 16/03/2018 19:58

Nope. I judge people for all sorts of reasons but not that.

CircleSquareCircleSquare · 16/03/2018 20:00

I used to have a career that is considered impressive and desirable (or at least it was until the last decade or so) but the stress nearly killed me.

After my last baby I didn’t return from maternity leave and instead set up my own businesses. One of the roles in one of those companies is cleaning and sometimes if a cleaner is off sick I’ll pitch in and get it done. It’s a valuable job, for which I pay well but I know from the days I have stepped into that role that a large chunk of the public really judge cleaners. I had someone say “what a shame you didn’t work harder at school” and similar ridiculous things.

I don’t clean nearly as well as the people who I pay to do the job but I do sometimes wish I had a role where I could immediately see my hard work.

Horridemma · 16/03/2018 20:12

My postie has a chemical engineering PhD - found office life too stressful and did want to work in academia.

Another - PhD in music and works at my school in the admin office - she wanted term time working to fit in with her children. Occasionally she will play oboe for some event. She is adamant she does not want to teach as it will destroy her love of music.

There are lots of very bright people in different roles. Just be polite to everyone

BlessYourCottonSocks · 16/03/2018 20:17

Nope. I am Head of History in a school and always vaguely surprised when people make comments about 'ooh...a teacher, I bet you're posh!' or when the cleaners at work once commented that I was about the only teacher that had a laugh with them and treated them as equals.

I speak to our Headmaster and our Chair of Governors (who I think is a Consultant Surgeon) exactly the same as I do to the cleaning staff, teaching assistants, clerical support and fellow teachers. I suspect I am supposed to be a lot more deferential as they are 'higher' than me.

I've been a cleaner, worked in a pub, done different menial jobs on minimum wage to keep us going when I needed to/children were small. I am married to a manual worker who left school at 15 with no qualifications. He is one of the most intelligent and funny people I know.

I consider people to be of equal status, no matter what their job is.

Trialsmum · 16/03/2018 20:23

Nope a job is a job. I only judge people who CBA to work and think the wold owes them a living!

Trialsmum · 16/03/2018 20:23

Nope a job is a job. I only judge people who CBA to work and think the wold owes them a living!

Notapushymum1 · 16/03/2018 20:23

Whattodo, because I am in my 40s and if a man in his 40s is working as a cleaner there must be a back story to it.

WhatToDoAboutWailmerGoneRogue · 16/03/2018 20:26

LoveInTokyo Yes it is Smile Customers have been asking me when it’s coming for weeks!

WhatToDoAboutWailmerGoneRogue · 16/03/2018 20:28

am in my 40s and if a man in his 40s is working as a cleaner there must be a back story to it.

Notapushymum1 So? Still not getting why that alone would make him undateable?

Nottheduchessofcambridge · 16/03/2018 20:32

I can be quite judgy over some things but I have never judged anyone in a low paid job. They are working, providing a service of some sort, they are providing.

lostlemon · 16/03/2018 20:37

Havent read the thread in total. My view on people who work in 'crap' jobs is that I know they are paid 'crap' money and are probably struggling to get by. I feel very very pissed off that people work in these jobs and don't get paid a decent living wage and are probably treated very poorly by their employers. Don't get me started on zero hours contracts and youngsters having to do 'try out' session for free.

People that go to work should be respected and numerated accordingly. They should be able to have that sense of satisfaction that they have done a days work and been paid a decent wage for it. They should not have to rely on tax credits, this benefit, that benefit to 'top up'.

ohreallyohreallyoh · 16/03/2018 20:37

No. There is no shame whatsoever in working for a living, whatever the job,

ChoudeBruxelles · 16/03/2018 20:39

No. Our economy takes people doing a huge range of jobs to work properly. It annoys me when people look down on others. What makes one person “better” than another?

LynetteScavo · 16/03/2018 21:26

No, I don't judge.

But a cleaner at work recently made a comment about her doing something a bit silly, them said that's why she was a cleaner and not doing my job...I'm pretty sure she's perfectly capable of doing my job , it's just circumstance that we have both found ourselves where we are. I work Ruth a colleague who once told me she's worked bloody hard to get where she is today. I was a bit surprised as I think I'm looked down on by others (an old school friend I met up with told me I did all the work for no kudos and little money - I disagree Angry) but this job works for me.

I do know someone who has been remarkably pushy with her DC...but despite them all being grown up now has never pushed herself. I have wondered why she didn't try to further her career.

But most people, I presume, are doing their best, but some people get more breaks than others.

Frequency · 16/03/2018 21:50

No, as long as they are earning so that they are covering their costs the job doesn't matter

Rarely do low paid jobs pay enough to cover a family's costs but someone has to do them. Who, if not working parents?

I mean, I guess teens could be in useful in shops, working their way through college/uni but would you want them caring for your elderly, incontinent Grandma with dementia? Or delivering your baby? Or cutting your hair? Or caring for your child while you work? Or assisting in your child's classroom?

Many low paid jobs are essential to the smooth running of society and/or require a lot of training.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 16/03/2018 21:54

I don't judge anyone. I've no right to.
A jobs a job.
There's no shame in earning an honest living.

WetsTheVet · 16/03/2018 21:57

I don't judge anyone who works for a living. I think it says a lot about a person's character who does work in a dimly viewed profession actually, as it shows they would rather earn their wage than claim benefits like many would instead of having to 'demean themselves' by being a McDonald's server or cleaner or whatever.

greathat · 16/03/2018 22:39

I judge ofsted inspectors...