AIBU to think Yorkshire Police are a shit show?

[CosmicCanary]

The recent investigation by WY police regarding comments made on twitter (non threatening and not racially motivated) has prompted me to think about my own involvement with them and the publicised screw ups they have made over the years.

Without researching, what comes to mind is:

Yorkshire Ripper.
So many missed chances. More women murdered.
Womens concerns/alerts dismissed because they were prostitues.

Hillsborough.
Failure to manage the crowd then blame planted at the fans door.

Jimmy Saville.
They knew.
So many raised concerns.
They ignored.
For 30 plus years

Rotherham.
Concerns were raised.
People were silenced.
So many girls became victims when the police should have protected them.

I am sure there are more

My own experience was aged 19 beat up by my bf.
Got home and called the police.
4 hours later I was visited.
Female officer refused to write down my statement as I had been drinking. I had but the beating lasted 2 hours before I escaped and I was very sober by then. She also said it was a waste as I would only go back to him. He had never hit me before and I had no involvement with the police prior to this.
No photos taken of my busted lips, nose or black eye.
A week later I was contacted by a detective who wanted to interview me. They had arrested him the night before for a fight in Leeds. When they charged him my complaint showed up.
They came to my work and interviewed me for 3 hours.

He was charged with the fight and my evidence helped but he was never charged with my assault. That was forgotten. Not seen as important. He was given 3 months for fighting over football. I never heard a thing from them.

I have no trust at all in Yorkshire police and feel they need to be investigated.

AIBU?

Not a problem!

I just think there are good ones and bad ones like in every job. Mine was under Lincolnshire police but I was beaten and strangled to within and inch of my life and raped more times than I can count by him. They weren't sympathetic at all and said it would be my word against his and I probably wouldn't be believed so there wasn't any point taking it further. He's still out there and I feel so guilty about that.

spot on whisky! absoloutely nailed it!

Yorkshire's police forceS are fascinating to me.

They seem to have gone straight from unenlightened and laddish attitudes towards women and safety (Savile, Hillsborough et al), to 21st century uber-politically-correct identity-politics posturing (embracing trans-activism shite, refusing to talk about the racial and religious dimensions of the grooming gang scandals), without passing through "normal sensible liberal attitudes" along the way.

Have you ever made a honest/simple mistake at work? If you did would you be happy with the disciplinary being held in public? Would you think it's fair that it's reported in the papers? Thats the reality of policing in 2018.

Are we talking about 'simple honest mistakes' though or about entrenched misogyny?

Is it a simple, honest mistake that (with a couple of exceptions) police forces across the country have 'forgotten' to class harassment, abuse and violence against women and girls on the basis of their sex as a 'hate crime'?

Is it a simple honest mistake that so many women and girls have not been listened to or taken seriously when reporting rapes and sexual abuse (not just in Yorkshire)? That women in this thread are describing experiences of domestic abuse which they feel were not dealt with appropriately by the police?

Is it a simple honest mistake that countless women are being subjected to rape and death threats online (including very detailed graphic descriptions about what exactly is going to be done to them) by men and little if anything seems to be done about it - whereas the police suddenly have loads of resources to travel to the other end of the country because a woman dared to express a (non-violent) opinion on social media?

I don't think these things are simple, honest mistakes of individual officers. That's not to say that I think the police are all bad - I think there are many brave police officers doing good work in increasingly difficult circumstances. I also certainly don't think misogyny is unique to the police force - It is entrenched in our society and the police are a reflection of that. But it concerns me if the police are just writing it off as the odd 'mistake' or the odd rotten apple and want to deflect this issue by referring to the positive work of the police. Because that means they are not really acknowledging and addressing the problem and are writing it off as unimportant.

Its not just Yorkshire police. I reported my husband when I witnessed him assaulting our son. The attending officers did not bother to interview my son (he had popped out when they arrived) and wrote it off as a non crime incident. I complained but was contacted by a very aggressive sergeant who said my ex could make a counter accusation against our son, and basically threatened me into dropping it.

Kokeshi, from the way your put that, it almost sounds like they were so obsessed with losing the "70-80's bent copper" image that they bought wholesale into PC (argh, I hate using that, but it's the easiest and quickest way to explain it!) policing - to get as far away from that image as possible, as quickly as possible

"because a woman dared to express a (non-violent) opinion on social media?"

It wasn't even wholly an opinion - the one complaint is about a purely factual tweet (that SG took her son abroad for SRS on his 16th birthday - link here www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/health/from-jack-to-jackie-why-i-had-sex-change-at-16-1-4018711 ) that SG didn't like the wording of.
Blunt, yes (posie said he was "castrated". SRS does involve orcidectomy) but purely factual.

The opinion that the complaint referred to, was that the above is abusive and that mermaids promote mass child abuse (by encouraging children to have irreversible medical procedures. Which they do)

So does that mean we cannot discuss the castration of boys to keep their voices Castrato?

It was a huge scandal and compensation was given to those who had it done.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castrato

I assume so elendon. Tutting is apparently a hate crime too now, so I was reading yesterday (I will have a look for the link as I can't remember if it was a decent source)