to ask how you’re preparing for Brexit?

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There is so much uncertainty surrounding what will happen with trade deals and goodness knows what else, that I’m starting to wonder about making some sensible plans.

We have put a stop to some planned works we wanted to do to our house, we have downsized to one car and we grow a small amount of veg. We keep some stocks of food in the house but we have a large family so I never feel like we’d have enough.
We have discussed not taking a holiday this summer and DH is taking every training course possible at work in order to diversify his skills should his industry go tits up.

I’m wondering what decisions you’re making in your homes for what could possibly be a really uncertain time for a few years.

One thing that a lot of Remainers have overlooked is that the majority of British people, regardless of age or class, are against the EU on key points such as immigration from Eastern Europe and Muslim countries.

The Tories won politically on the Migrants Crisis and most people supportive of Schengen are supportive mainly due to the idea of free movement among Western countries.

Ignorant meaning a lack of awareness. When some asks if companies moving offshore is such a loss to the UK, I take that to mean you see mass unemployment as something to be taken lightly?

why don't you answer that question from the viewpoint of Brexit supporters who do have a backgrounds & attribute that you ascribe only to remain supporters.

Why would I answer a question from the POV of Brexit supporters? It’s bad enough having to listen to their witterings.

If, by virtue of expertise, you have an answer to the intractable issue of the NI border and the detrimental impact on trade of leaving the cu/sm I’m sure we’re all ears.

Not the best arguments wenter when Leavers constantly tell us they are not racists or xenophobes. Now you are telling us that the majority of Leavers don't like Muslims or E Europeans. Not that leaving the EU will especially address their anti-Muslim prejudice.

@TatianaLarina Northern Ireland wouldn't have even been a passing thought in the minds of most Remainers if it hadn't been a reason for blocking Brexit.

Icame hardly very many 1000's though is it? Deutche Bank (the only Company listed in you article citing 2000-4000) still aren't completely leaving are they? Why are they staying? Because they know it is still worth their while to stay.
And Microsoft state they remain committed to the UK so hardly catastrophic is it?

orthern Ireland wouldn't have even been a passing thought in the minds of most Remainers if it hadn't been a reason for blocking Brexit.

Try telling that to the people in NI

On the contrary, NI was one of the key reasons many people voted Remain, certainly in my case.

@Peregrina The left-wing are widely assumed to be supportive of Muslims and Blacks by many other ethnic groups.

If you look at Jews, Indians and East Asians, they are right-wing voters in Western Europe and the Commonwealth Realms, and used to be in the US too until the Democrats went hyper-socially liberal.

The right-wing is helping support minority groups that would otherwise be lost to the racism of the left-wing.

I’m leaving the country! Moving overseas for the foreseeable future this summer.

Northern Ireland wouldn't have even been a passing thought in the minds of most Remainers if it hadn't been a reason for blocking Brexit.

I disagree. I was tempted to vote Leave to give Cameron a kick in the teeth, but felt strongly that the GFA was a hard won International Peace Treaty, and I did not want to see the outbreak of violence again, and this is what swung the vote to Remain for me.

For a person to lose their income by whatever means is a misfortune. There will be job losses due to Brexit. Companies like Apple and Amazon who set up here aren't patriotic to the UK, they don't even pay their taxes properly. Same with Starbucks. How patriotic it is to try and shaft over the country you set up business in and then not pay your fair share of taxes

You do realise they are only here due to laxes in taxation. There's no loyalty to the UK.

An interesting analysis of what left wing supporters all believe wenter. I wouldn't know, being politically of the centre ground. I am not convinced by your argument though.

Besides the EU Headhunters moving to Ireland and the decision taken by Smiffys (which is sad for the area as it's a UK Company) all of the Companies "may", "could" and are "considering".

A sound business approach - Wait And See - is what they are doing, not an immediate knee-jerk, panic-stricken and ideologically-driven reaction as many PPs here seem to indicate.

Why would I answer a question from the POV of Brexit supporters? It’s bad enough having to listen to their witterings.

Well you already did, but fell back on the tired stereotype.

Just wondered why your hypothetical Brexiter has to be based on the 'ignorant & uninformed' is all.

The right-wing is helping support minority groups that would otherwise be lost to the racism of the left-wing.

Wtaf?

Wrt Deutsche. Financial services need a subsidiary within Europe due to the imminent loss of passporting. Deutsche, HSBC, GS, UBS & JP Morgan have declared their subsidiary plans.

The EU is clear that they will not accept brass plate companies, they will only grant licences to operations that have sufficient assets, staff and risk management.

Sufficient staff are being moved to keep operations open after Brexit, and bigger decisions are being deferred until the deal is clear.

Roughly 20% of city revenue is from the EU.

@FaithHopeCharityDesperation ignorant and uninformed because you can't be informed on the 'unknown' that's why it's unknown.

But looks like a shower of shite from where I'm stood. I hope for everyone's sake it isn't

Northern Ireland wouldn't have even been a passing thought in the minds of most Remainers if it hadn't been a reason for blocking Brexit.

Leaving aside the veracity of this, it's not even relevant.

Northern Ireland is not some kind of bargaining point in the argument, it's an enormous problem that needs to be sorted out before brexit can go through that lots of leavers have never engaged with.

You can't just dismantle an international peace treaty because it doesn't suit you for some totally unrelated issue. Why do leavers find that so difficult to understand?

There's a lot of hard graft to be done to make Brexit a reality. N.I. is the most difficult bit of all of this. It needs a huge amount of administrative and diplomatic work. The GFA was years and years in the development, finding a solution to this will take a similar amount of work.

It comes back to leavers wanting the power without the responsibility. Brexit is not just an argument that once won will be implemented with a snap of the fingers. It's going to take a huge amount of work.

The right-wing is helping support minority groups that would otherwise be lost to the racism of the left-wing.

Rather than the 'racism' of the left-wing, I would say the dogmatic, blinkered, deaf approach of the left to many things - in an effort to virtue-signal their 'progressiveness' they have thrown several minority & vulnerable groups under the bus.

'Wait and see' was fine for 2016, but now it's getting to the crunch time businesses who have already been drawing up contingency plans are now getting to the stage where they need to think about putting them into operation.

Faith - I have answered no question from the POV of Brexiter, whose perspectives I have no sympathy for.

There are educated ‘hypothetical Brexiters’, never said there aren’t. Not many on here. Either way, their views are still naive and poorly informed, often ideological rather than rooted in practical social and economic reality.

@FaithHopeCharityDesperation ignorant and uninformed because you can't be informed on the 'unknown' that's why it's unknown.

In that case, the anti-Brexit supporters & preppers are just as ignorant and uninformed as the Brexiters.

Coming late to this...

Having spent a good deal of time researching whether any of us are eligible for citizenship of any other EU country (we are not), we have looked at immigration/visa requirements for Canada and New Zealand in case a back up option is needed.

We are being more cautious about big expenditure (eg extending house) and saving more, as the economic situation and cost of living (food) could all be not good for quite a while if we leave single market.

Have also read a lot more about 20thC European history, and slightly alarmed to realise how recent many things we take for granted are, eg widespread peace and stability, and just how quickly 'civilised' countries can descend into ruin if conflicts arise. There's a documentary series on channe 4 on demand "Hitler: the rise and fall" which is very interesting. Not to say this is the situation Europe is in, but good to get a small insight into how catastrophically bad things can happen in incrementally small ways if the right circumstances allow.