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Original poster

to ask how you’re preparing for Brexit?

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CircleSquareCircleSquare · 13/03/2018 15:54

There is so much uncertainty surrounding what will happen with trade deals and goodness knows what else, that I’m starting to wonder about making some sensible plans.

We have put a stop to some planned works we wanted to do to our house, we have downsized to one car and we grow a small amount of veg. We keep some stocks of food in the house but we have a large family so I never feel like we’d have enough.
We have discussed not taking a holiday this summer and DH is taking every training course possible at work in order to diversify his skills should his industry go tits up.

I’m wondering what decisions you’re making in your homes for what could possibly be a really uncertain time for a few years.

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tortelliniforever · 15/03/2018 13:57

but poor people in poor areas were massively hit, those people quite frankly can't see things getting worse.
And yet they are expected to be hit hardest by Brexit. I think it can get a lot worse.

LoveInTokyo · 15/03/2018 13:57

Unfortunately things can and will get worse.

Golondrina · 15/03/2018 14:05

Of course it can get worse, what a ridiculous thing to say! And they've basically voted for it to get worse!

lakeshoreliving · 15/03/2018 14:06

I agree they don't see things getting worse but if you have visited poorer areas in the USA for example it is easy to see how things can get worse. Much worse.

LaurieMarlow · 15/03/2018 14:06

Yes. They are regularly using it as a threat.

God, that's fucking offensive.

I'm also appalled at the attitude towards the ROI government amongst leavers (and being displayed on this thread). Here is a country, minding it's own business, trying to keep a fragile recovery going and Britain seems determined to land all of the shit it couldn't be arsed dealing with on its door.

Brexit will impact the Republic very significantly. Any change to the border has the potential to disturb a fragile peace which will be the Republic's problem whether they like it or not. The GFA, which the Republic worked hard on as well as the British looks likely to be trashed. And now the solution is to land NI on them too. As a tool to blackmail them into sorting the UK's problems. Jesus.

I'm not sure the Brits really get how much their international reputation is plummeting over Brexit. They're behaving appallingly.

LaurieMarlow · 15/03/2018 14:08

those people quite frankly can't see things getting worse.

Well they're going to get a fucking shock then, aren't they. As the impact reports (produced by their own government) are clear about.

Golondrina · 15/03/2018 14:09

I'm not sure the Brits really get how much their international reputation is plummeting over Brexit. the rest of the world mostly thinks the UK has lost the plot.

lakeshoreliving · 15/03/2018 14:09

Poorer areas benefited from increased GDP in having a government that could choose to invest in services and benefits, whether they did so or not is governmental choice. A poorer country will be able to make fewer choices.

Golondrina · 15/03/2018 14:11

Well they're going to get a fucking shock then, aren't they. As the impact reports (produced by their own government) are clear about.
Indeed. I don't get this. The governement's own impact reports were negative. So, why do people still insist it's all sunny uplands just round the corner? The government's own investigations predict it to be damaging to the UK.

DancingHipposOnAcid · 15/03/2018 14:33

Thanks for the information on Spanish citizenship from various posters. It seems that my advice to DM to not take Spanish citizenship still stands as dual nationality still not officially possible without a court battle. She can't risk being barred from returning to the UK if she needs care. So she may have to abandon her Spanish home if a reciprocal agreement isn't made. So sad it's come to this and so pointless

lakeshoreliving · 15/03/2018 14:40

A few years before Brexit ref was suggested I was living in a Latin American country and listening to a debate on the bedroom tax with some local friends, it took longer to explain the concept of giving people money so they could rent a house than the program lasted for.

Kursk · 15/03/2018 14:51

the rest of the world mostly thinks the UK has lost the plot.

Yes. Yes we do.

LondonMum8 · 15/03/2018 14:54

@lakeshoreliving

"I agree they don't see things getting worse but if you have visited poorer areas in the USA for example it is easy to see how things can get worse. Much worse."

Excellent point. There is so much people in this country tend to take for granted, while voicing further demands AND - ridiculously enough - claiming they want Britain to be "more global" or have a "global outlook".

I'm curious what sort of economic circumstances Priti Patel would ideally envisage for our stalwart Leave voters. Apparently she has actually put her globally-focused ideas in writing somewhere.

Snowmagedon · 15/03/2018 14:59

But they have already had a massive shock... Their lives have already been impacted.. Not sure why some posters find this so hard to understand!

Can you imagine a homeless person.. Fallen on hard times actually saying his life has been made even more shit by professional beggars? Do you think he is going to care about rising food prices?

LoveInTokyo · 15/03/2018 15:07

I would have thought that anyone who needs to buy food would be concerned about rising food prices.

Unless they are so rich that money is no object.

TatianaLarina · 15/03/2018 15:12

Taking that analogy at face value - homeless people will be impacted - less money for shelters, fewer people with spare cash to donate, rising food prices will impact him whether he cares about it or not. The money he does have won’t go as far.

Wherever you are things can always get worse.

“The worst is not so long as we can say ‘this is the worst’”.

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 15/03/2018 15:23

Let me get this straight

Some Remainers on this thread have said that they are concerned that the GFA will fail and violence will begin again in ireland when we brexit

And instead of saying 'it will be fine because of ABC...' or even 'yes it is a concern but i have full confidence that the government have this in hand'

Its now ' remainers (not some remainers all apparently) want violence in ireland and they are blackmailing the country'

I have got that right haven't i?

In fucking sane

Its amazing me all the things that people who voted remain, for the status quo, are now responsible for

If violence breaks out....remainers fault

The economy tanks...remainers fault

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 15/03/2018 15:25

o you think he is going to care about rising food prices?

Errrmmm

Yes i think he would care about food

(Rents, buying cars, furniture etc..not so much but food? Yes)

lakeshoreliving · 15/03/2018 15:30

I would think most people would notice and be unhappy about rising prices and shrinking packaging but people on lower income have to spend a larger percentage of that on basics of food/heat so it is going to impact them more.

KennDodd · 15/03/2018 15:31

No one is threatening violence

Actually Nigel Farage has repeatedly threatened violence.

Elendon · 15/03/2018 15:44

the rest of the world mostly thinks the UK has lost the plot

Plot? Did someone mention plot?

Wasn't Brexit part of a conspiracy of some in the Russian government to bring down the EU?

ChickenTikkaBhuna · 15/03/2018 15:45

I have been reading up about brexiteers and cognitive dissonance, it explains a lot how their minds work.

LaurieMarlow · 15/03/2018 15:50

But they have already had a massive shock... Their lives have already been impacted.. Not sure why some posters find this so hard to understand!

No one finds that hard to understand. Globalisation, the economic crash, government policy have all made people's lives harder. Everyone is agreed on that.

But voting out of the EU was not the answer. Leaving the EU will make the country poorer, by everyone's calculation, including the government who are now over seeing it. And the people who have least will be affected most (they usually are) as jobs are lost, public services are cut and taxes rise.

LaurieMarlow · 15/03/2018 15:58

Its now ' remainers (not some remainers all apparently) want violence in ireland and they are blackmailing the country' ... Its amazing me all the things that people who voted remain, for the status quo, are now responsible for ... If violence breaks out....remainers fault ... The economy tanks...remainers fault

I think what this comes down to is the failure to take responsibility.

Virtually no one in the leave camp thought through nitty gritty of what it meant. They got caught up in the dream and the hard stuff that has to be worked through is only hitting them now.

Leavers got drunk on the power without the responsibility. And as the implications of what they've done hits them, the potential problems that brexit raises and the hard work that needs to be done to finish the process are overwhelming. So they lash out and look for someone to blame, no matter how illogical.

specialsubject · 15/03/2018 16:01

Generalisations are always wrong, they say.

If this thread proves anything it is that people unable to reason, work out causation and understand the difference between real numbers and extrapolation are in the extremist groups on both sides.

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