to ask how you’re preparing for Brexit?

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There is so much uncertainty surrounding what will happen with trade deals and goodness knows what else, that I’m starting to wonder about making some sensible plans.

We have put a stop to some planned works we wanted to do to our house, we have downsized to one car and we grow a small amount of veg. We keep some stocks of food in the house but we have a large family so I never feel like we’d have enough.
We have discussed not taking a holiday this summer and DH is taking every training course possible at work in order to diversify his skills should his industry go tits up.

I’m wondering what decisions you’re making in your homes for what could possibly be a really uncertain time for a few years.

*- stock up on olive oil.

• start laying eggs. Or at least get chickens.
• build a bunker.*

I’m sure I can do without Olive Oil. I don’t have a garden big enough for chooks or a bunker.

What about Wine? Do I need to stockpile wine? You know...just in case the EU countries won’t want my £££’s anymore?? 😂😂😂

It’s not a question of whether they want your £££, it’s a question of whether you want their . Which obviously you do.

Mmm... If I were desperate I’m sure I could make my own 🍷. Is there anything the EU countries have that UK citizens really couldn’t live without??

What about Wine? Do I need to stockpile wine? You know...just in case the EU countries won’t want my £££’s anymore?? 😂😂😂

Its how much you are going to pay for the wine

It’s not as simple as that.

In a no deal exit scenario, on the day we leave, we lose the benefit of free trade with the EU. We also lose the benefit of free trade with all the countries the EU has a trade deal with (including Chile and South Africa, for those of you who like wine).

We start trading on WTO rules, which means we quickly find out what the “most favoured nation” rule means. In a nutshell, we have to trade with every country on equal terms unless we have a free trade agreement with that country or trading bloc. We can’t just abolish tariffs for our favourite friendly wine producing country without offering everyone else the same terms. So we need trade agreements if we want to be selective.

But on the day we exit, we will have no trade agreements, and these take time to negotiate. Tricky. Plus, every country in the world knows that we will be desperate for free trade agreements, so whatever we want from them, you can guarantee they are going to want something of equal value (and then some) in return.

Also, many countries may not be free to give us a sweet trade deal, because a lot of them have a mini version of the most favoured nation clause in their existing trade agreements, which means they can’t offer us anything better than they have offered their other trade partners (such as the EU, for example), without offering the same deal to that trade partner. Without being entitled to anything from that trade partner in return.

So in reality, the cost of any imported wine (i.e. nearly all wine) will go up, whether it is from the EU or not, and you will just have to pay the higher price or not drink wine.

But anyway, regardless of Brexit, stockpiling wine is never a bad idea. It’s just that most people who stockpile wine are stockpiling good stuff that will mature, not £5 bottles of Pinot Grigio from Asda.

What about Wine? Do I need to stockpile wine? You know...just in case the EU countries won’t want my £££’s anymore?

Oooh. Now that's something I can get on board with.I'll buy into the panic hoarding any excuse to stockpile wine

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Life-saving medicines? For one.

Life-saving medicines? For one.

People in Wales are having to move to England for cancer treatment.... If there is to be no more lifesaving drugs after Brexit how do you propose we prepare for it??

To the clueless people who keep bringing up the irrelevant attempt at analogy that is Switzerland, would they be happy with 10% tax rates and the consequent instant annihilation of our benefits / social services including the NHS. Obviously the Leave.EU mafia certainly would, but what about the ordinary voters?

Libdems offered a tax rise for the nhs and a second referendum . Clearly the majority don't want that.

I think the Lib Dems have been treated harshly in retrospect, they where the minority party and definitely not the first to back track on a significant policy, Labour and Cons have done just that many a time.

They also tempered a lot of what the cons wanted to introduce and brought in a few of their policies.

But disregarding that, they was the only party that was asking for a second referendum and a tax rise, you can blame tribal politics or whatever you like. No one else ran on that platform so the case of the majority not wanting it is clearly true

I trust them. They're the only party intelligent enough to realise the brexit is a very deep black hole. No party is perfect, they all make mistakes and promise things they can't deliver on.

Re Lib Dems, the first past the post system is anti democratic to me. Should be proportional representation/ single transferable vote.

Will never happen so we will have Tweedledum and Tweedledee forever changing seats.

The remain campaign had everything going for it, it was backed by the civil service, Bank of England, universities, the IMF, EU, BBC, etc etc but it never came up with a positive message for being in the EU. Even now everything is about how terrible it will be out of the EU and scaring other states out of thinking of leaving. There's no positive message of the benefits of being in the EU. There are benefits to being in the EU but there are also benefits to leaving. There will be billions annually that Britain does not spend on the EU. You may think that the billions were worth it but to refuse to acknowledge that people may think that's a positive is ridiculous. If you hold people that voted leave in contempt and assume that they're racist, stupid etc then you are part of the reason that we're leaving. If you think that a second vote would result in different result when there's been nothing positive offered and you've spent the last 18 months insulting leave voters you are utterly deluded.

I think much of the last election was about Get the Tories out - because of austerity and the NHS, and not as much about Brexit. So in most cases, a first past the post system means hold your nose and vote for the party who is likely to achieve that, which in most places was Labour. Where I live, where Labour always does poorly, the LibDem won.

Wow the replies on this thread are somewhat off at a tangent to what the OP asked.

I don't get how people can show a lack of empathy to those whose lives are being fundamentally changed by the shit storm that is Brexit. We will end up paying for it one way or another. Some posters are well practiced in cognitive dissonance so it would seem.

I think much of the last election was about Get the Tories out - because of austerity and the NHS, and not as much about Brexit.

That's tribal politics, the situation is that Labour and Cons where running with Brexit policies, the majority didn't want what lib dems where offering.

it never came up with a positive message for being in the EU

It did, it's just people didn't really want to listen to it - preferring to believe the Leave.EU lies and hatemongering.

Some people voted because the hate Eastern Europeans - guess what, those EE folks who can be arsed to do so will stay.

Some people voted because they hated Cameron - Cameron is gone.

Some people voted because they wanted to give the elite a bloody nose - hopefully by now at least some of them have understood they have just given themselves one.

etc.

The sheer cretinism of "OMG we spend billions on the EU" is perhaps also worth rebuking for the 1000th time: it's a drop in the bucket of the UK budget. Exiting the EU will seriously damage our financial services industry which itself generates over £70bn in taxes... OTH we are spending about £12bn in foreign aid, including to India which will overtake us as world's 6th economy this year :D

Sooo London..... As the title asks "How are you preparing for Brexit"??

To all those planning on getting Spanish citizenship, you do realise that you have to renounce your original citizenship to do this as Spain doesn't allow dual nationality?

Having experienced first hand the non-existence of state elderly care provision in Spain, you might like to consider how you would manage in retirement when you can't access care and returning to the UK is no longer an option.

People in Wales are having to move to England for cancer treatment.... If there is to be no more lifesaving drugs after Brexit how do you propose we prepare for it??

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This should have been queried before voting leave

People in Wales are having to move to England for cancer treatment....

Shouldn't wales have been told this before they got more devolution?