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to ask how you’re preparing for Brexit?

999 replies

CircleSquareCircleSquare · 13/03/2018 15:54

There is so much uncertainty surrounding what will happen with trade deals and goodness knows what else, that I’m starting to wonder about making some sensible plans.

We have put a stop to some planned works we wanted to do to our house, we have downsized to one car and we grow a small amount of veg. We keep some stocks of food in the house but we have a large family so I never feel like we’d have enough.
We have discussed not taking a holiday this summer and DH is taking every training course possible at work in order to diversify his skills should his industry go tits up.

I’m wondering what decisions you’re making in your homes for what could possibly be a really uncertain time for a few years.

OP posts:
SleightOfMind · 13/03/2018 23:55

The unrelenting catastrophe of Brexit appals me (I posted seriously earlier) but this thread has been bloody funny.

abilockhart · 13/03/2018 23:57

Maybe it should be referred to as The Ostrich Thread?

HunterofStars · 14/03/2018 01:22

Not dating any British men. Wink.

On a serious note, I'm looking into learning as many languages as possible, I used to love learning languages at school and retraining. I'm also going to clear my overdraft and build up my savings.

I also plan to move abroad after I retrain.

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 14/03/2018 03:33

Maybe with all these people hotfooting it out of the U.K. they’ll stop building the swathes of new houses on the fields near me as they won’t be needed. Clearly they won’t be needed now.

alltheworld · 14/03/2018 05:00

Obtained eu citizenship. Given up trying to sell house. Wishing could emigrate but kids too old. Will emigrate once kids through school

alltheworld · 14/03/2018 05:01

If I had no dc I would have left already

MissionItsPossible · 14/03/2018 06:02

This is genuinely one of the funniest threads I’ve read on here 😂

SleightOfMind · 14/03/2018 07:42

Stockpiling olive oil was great and the poster’s defence was even better!

reddressblueshoes · 14/03/2018 07:45

Here's the thing though. From a food POV, there are basically three options, assuming the UK does not stay in the single market.

Option 1: deals have been done far enough in advance that there are mechanisms for importing food from mainland Europe in place-e.g. Checkpoints set up at Calais, IT scanning solutions, etc etc. Somehow the cost of these is not passed on to the consumer (?) and from day one, supply resumes exactly as it has done and nobody notices any difference.

Option 2: a deal is done in advance, but there are a series of minor screw ups inmanaging all the lorries coming in and there's a delay in food coming in. Some parts of the country are up in arms that their veg is arriving past it's best, others are seeing empty shelves. The whole thing takes about three weeks to sort out: while nobody starves, there is widespread frustration and annoyance and a lot of people are temporarily unable to buy things they consider staples,

Option 3: the UK crashes out with no deal. The WTO requires the imposition of tariffs until new alternative treaties can be set up - as negotiations had been focused primarily on a deal with the EU, this is at least six months out. In this time, there are shortages and transport issues as per option 2, as nobody really even understands how it's supposed to be working, and in addition the price of certain food items significantly increases in the short term. There are protests from people who believe supermarkets are profiteering as other items seem to be increasing in price as well: supermarkets protest their costs have in fact gone up across the board. For at least a year, there is significant upheaval around food supplies and prices.

Looking at those three options, I just don't see how option 1 is seen as the most credible one. At a minimum, I imagine a low level degree of disruption as was seen with the snow. Neither option suggests some kind of zombie invasion hysteria, but I think some variant of option 2 seems v credible to me and option 3 a distinct possibility.

GrannyGrissle · 14/03/2018 08:02

Your efforts would be better spent in helping women retain their rights/freedom of speech etc and getting involved in preventing the trans crazyness currently threatening women. Much more of a pressing matter than the Brexit shambles.

BlooperReel · 14/03/2018 08:07

We are buying a new house at present and are fixing the mortgage rate for 5 years which will hopefully see us through the worst of the uncertainty...

Nevercallmehun · 14/03/2018 08:09

Grannie but Brexit does threaten rights, lots of EU laws were to do with employment rights and equality.

Elendon · 14/03/2018 08:15

I believe Brexit will not happen. I love the letter in the Irish Times

Brexit: the undefined negotiated by the unprepared to get the unspecified for the uninformed. Terry Nichol, Blackrock, Co Dublin

I believe there will be a second referendum when the deadline passes next March and nothing has been done.

rumblytummy1 · 14/03/2018 08:18

Applying for French citizenship. I have lived in France for almost 10 years

LoveInTokyo · 14/03/2018 08:38

^Yesterday 21:41 theftbyfinding

Then I, for one, am delighted your sort are off to France LoveinTokyo because the world is a hard enough place without resorting to such nasty insulting behaviour unfit for any office so if you're on that level, it's no loss to Blighty.^

I must have missed this comment yesterday.

Sorry theft, but it’s high time you realised how many people think like this.

If all the remainers who think people who voted leave are “useful idiots” left the country, there would be a real brain drain.

In my case, I spent the first 30 years of my life in the UK, using the education system and the NHS, got degrees from two UK universities (the first at a time when the cost of tuition was still largely subsidised by the taxpayer) and then went into a skilled profession. By the time I left I was paying 40% tax, not using the NHS at all, spending much of my disposable income in British shops and restaurants, and doing a much-needed job.

Now I am in France, paying my taxes in France, not using the French healthcare system (so far), not claiming any benefits, spending large amounts of my disposable income in the French economy, and doing a job that probably only exists because my company now wants to do less work through its London office due to Brexit.

Now I now that it makes very little difference to the UK economy whether I am there or not. But if all the millions of people who think Brexiters are idiots upped and left like I have, the country really would be screwed.

borntobequiet · 14/03/2018 08:40

Making sure my children register as foreign Irish births and obtain passports (I have mine).
Stocking up on HRT medication as it's manufactured in Belgium. I could do without if I really had to, though without it I don't think I'd have the energy levels to continue working and it would impact adversely on my quality of life. However my daughter (hysterectomy in her 30s) couldn't do without it at all and would become very unwell. So at a pinch I'd give her mine.

BitchQueen90 · 14/03/2018 08:46

Absolutely nothing. If and when it happens, I'll deal with it then. I take life as it comes.

HiggeldyPigsinblankets · 14/03/2018 08:58

currently applying for a carte de sejour permanent, in the long term will probably apply for French citizenship. The whole Brexit has such far reaching implications that people have not even begun to consider, its really worrying.

For me personally and the 3 million ex pats its thrown our whole life into uncertainty, we are not all pensioners tempted by warmer weather and cheap booze, most of us are working and have children. I'm a single parent, I'm not a high earner, returning to the UK is not an option, two children at important stages in school, never been to UK schools, nowhere to live in UK, not able to work without doing a 6 month return to practice course, no savings to live off, not entitled to benefits, have to take the citizenhip test, yes really a friend has just returned she is Welsh and had to take it!!

I have adults children in the UK, I am really worried about how they will manage financially if costs rise

Trampire · 14/03/2018 09:13

I was a remainer (whatever that really means) but honestly, this thread is ridiculous.

I'll be doing nothing. No-one knows. We just live our lives as they come.

AlexaAmbidextra · 14/03/2018 09:16

Oh for goodness sake! 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Golondrina · 14/03/2018 09:20

The whole Brexit has such far reaching implications that people have not even begun to consider, its really worrying.
Totally. The list of things that will be affected (negatively) is just enormous. Just going "lalala, it'll be fiiiine" isn't good enough.

For me personally and the 3 million ex pats its thrown our whole life into uncertainty, we are not all pensioners tempted by warmer weather and cheap booze, most of us are working and have children.I'm not a high earner, returning to the UK is not an option, two children at important stages in school, never been to UK schools, nowhere to live in UK, no savings to live off, not entitled to benefits
Absolutely. And expats in the EU have no idea of what our status will be after March next year. Will we need visa? Will be allowed to work? What if we own property in the EU? Will we be entitled to healthcare? What processes will we have to go through to continue living in the EU? And we didn't on the whole vote for this and some of us weren't even allowed to vote in the referendum, despite promises that we would be able to.

I'm one of the lucky ones as I'm entitled to an Irish passport, so can retain EU citizenship.

LoveInTokyo · 14/03/2018 09:20

Plenty of people need to know. I need to know what my immigration status will be on 1st April next year, whether I will still be allowed to work and whether my qualifications will still be recognised. I hope it will be OK because France is a sensible country and I am married to a French citizen. But I don’t know.

And businesses certainly need to know. If they don’t know soon, they’ll have to start putting contingency plans in place, which for some of them will likely mean pulling out of the UK, with resulting job losses. And then things will snowball and the economic Armageddon “Project Fear” warned us about will become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

I appreciate that if your biggest concern is whether to buy a new car or stockpile olive oil you might be OK with “wait and see”, but some people genuinely need to know sooner rather than later.

Golondrina · 14/03/2018 09:24

We just live our lives as they come you see this really fucks me off. I don't have that luxury because people in the UK voted for something that means I CAN'T just live my life as it comes, I actually have to obtain other nationalities to continue "living life as it comes". It's Brexshit in a nutshell, NI? Gibraltar? Expats in the UK? Who gives a fuck? And then when people point out that actually it has fucking huge ramifications for millions of people, we're told we're being hysterical.

FaithHopeCharityDesperation · 14/03/2018 09:43

^Don't worry about the future; or worry, but know that worrying is as
effective as trying to solve an algebra equation by chewing bubblegum
The real troubles in your life are apt to be things that
never crossed your worried mind
the kind that blindside you at 4pm on some idle Tuesday^

Prescient words from Baz Luhrmann (sunscreen).

Golondrina · 14/03/2018 09:46

Oh OK, Faith so all us Brits in the EU should just not worry about not having residency rights in the countries where we live after March 2019? What a relief, good thing you were here to sort it all out. Seriously, do people have no understanding that it massively affects millions of people? Obviously not.

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