Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Even if you subpoena us, we won't turn up on the Trump threads

954 replies

PerkingFaintly · 12/03/2018 00:02

Oh whoops, here we are.Grin

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3180160-Trump-talk-HOW-MUCH-for-that-inauguration?pg=1

OP posts:
Thread gallery
31
lionheart · 16/03/2018 23:11

Oliver Darcy

Verified account

@oliverdarcy
22m22 minutes ago

Serious mistake at Fox News. A draft story has accidentally been published and is live online saying Andrew McCabe has been fired.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 17/03/2018 02:02

Elizabeth Dwoskin
@lizzadwoskin
DEVELOPING: Facebook is suspending Trump-affiliated political research firm Cambridge Analytica. Story to come.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 17/03/2018 02:04

As disheartening as this is, it may add more ballast in the obstruction of justice case

FBI’s Andrew McCabe is fired just before retiring. Former deputy director became lightning rod for Clinton email and Russia probes.

www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/03/16/fbis-andrew-mccabe-is-fired-just-before-retiring-former-deputy-director-became-lightning-rod-for-clinton-email-and-russia-probes/

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 17/03/2018 02:09

Trump decides to remove national security adviser, and others may follow

www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/trump-decides-to-remove-national-security-adviser-and-others-may-follow/2018/03/15/fea2ebae-285c-11e8-bc72-077aa4dab9ef_story.html

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 17/03/2018 02:11

The Russian spy ship Viktor Leonov, which the Pentagon has been monitoring because it has sailed uncomfortably close to U.S. waters on several occasions, docked at the port of Havana on Friday.

amp.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/cuba/article205552879.html

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 17/03/2018 02:12

Natasha Bertrand
@NatashaBertrand
Felix Sater says he tried to secure funding for the Trump Tower Moscow deal via VTB, Russia’s second biggest lender which is under US sanctions. @allinwithchris

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 17/03/2018 02:15

Kyle Griffin
@kylegriffin1
.@chrislhayes: Have you cooperated with the FBI and its investigation?

FELIX SATER: I'm sorry, I cannot answer about anything about any ongoing investigations that are happening. That's not for me to say.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 17/03/2018 02:17

Suspending Cambridge Analytica and SCL Group from Facebook

newsroom.fb.com/news/h/suspending-cambridge-analytica/

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 17/03/2018 02:19

Manu Raju
@mkraju
Andy McCabe tells @PamelaBrownCNN and @LauraAJarrett that Nunes memo "selectively quoted" and "mischaracterized" what he said to House Intel. “We started the investigations without the dossier. We were proceeding with the investigations before we ever received that information.”

McCabe also says: “I absolutely never misled the inspector general in any way," calling his highly-public downfall the result of "a series of attacks designed to undermine my credibility and my reputation” including by President Trump.

Renato Mariotti
@renato_mariotti
In the days and weeks to come, we will come to learn whether Trump’s desire to undermine the Russia investigation played a role in McCabe’s dismissal. If it did, he’ll ultimately regret this move.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 17/03/2018 02:39

Barry R McCaffrey
@mccaffreyr3
Reluctantly I have concluded that President Trump is a serious threat to US national security. He is refusing to protect vital US interests from active Russian attacks. It is apparent that he is for some unknown reason under the sway of Mr Putin.

Kyle Griffin
@kylegriffin1
Don't forget (in case the White House pushes back on McCaffrey) Sarah Sanders once said this: "If you want to get into a debate with a four-star Marine general, I think that that’s something highly inappropriate." (link: wapo.st/2IsTT2G )

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 17/03/2018 02:49

Joy Reid
@JoyAnnReid
McCabe is now free to speak. America eagerly awaits what he has to say, including about this latest attack on the federal law enforcement personnel investigating Donald Trump.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 17/03/2018 02:53

Alleged mobster Felix Sater ‘told family he knows he and POTUS are going to prison’

www.rawstory.com/2018/03/alleged-mobster-felix-sater-told-family-he-knows-he-and-potus-are-going-to-prison/amp/

TheClaws · 17/03/2018 05:56

If anybody had any lingering doubts about Trump being ill-qualified and incapable of being the President of the United States, this tweet should help extinguish them. A disgusting collection of words he will regret.

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 2h2 hours ago
More
Andrew McCabe FIRED, a great day for the hard working men and women of the FBI - A great day for Democracy. Sanctimonious James Comey was his boss and made McCabe look like a choirboy. He knew all about the lies and corruption going on at the highest levels of the FBI!

TheClaws · 17/03/2018 06:03

The Hill @thehill
4h4 hours ago
More
#BREAKING: McCabe hits back: I was fired to try and undermine Mueller's probe hill.cm/LJzvePo

OuaisMaisBon · 17/03/2018 06:12

Like TheClaws, it seems, I woke up to a Twitter feed seething with rage about McCabe (and praise from my daughter's university staff for her and her fellow occupying students' support during the UCU strike, but that's a far more heartwarming story!) so here are a couple of quotes which give me hope that ultimately Donboy has shot himself in the foot and the resulting sepsis will kill him off shortly.

Jon Cooper
🌊
‏Verified account @joncoopertweets
15h15 hours ago

🔥🔥🔥The unprecedented CHAOS in the White House is of great concern. The quickly growing flood of high-level departures, coupled w/ the increasing difficulty in finding ANYONE w/ integrity willing to serve under this corrupt Administration, pose tremendous risks for our nation.
208 replies 2,154 retweets 4,870 likes

Scott Dworkin‏Verified account@funder 2h2 hours ago

Trump pushed Sessions to fire Andrew McCabe for no other reason than to try & use the firing to stop Mueller’s Russia probe. McCabe agrees. He just stated that his firing is part of the effort to destroy him, so Trump can stop the Mueller probe. Congress needs to #ProtectMueller.
99 replies 908 retweets 1,613 likes

Caroline O.‏*@RVAwonk* 15m15 minutes ago

According to a Jan. 2018 report, Trump ordered a smear campaign targeting specific FBI officials likely to testify against him. One of those FBI officials was Andrew McCabe.
Share Blue

DoctorTwo · 17/03/2018 06:23

And particularly, your alternative suggestion is detailed and obviously came from somewhere, so I'd also be interested (if you're comfortable to say) in learning where you came across that.

Sorry if I sounded a bit conspiracy theorist, but I think too much. I don't get why Skripal would be a target for Russia. AFAIK he wasn't working for the 'intelligence' services, unlike Litvinenko, who was killed by Russia.

As for where I 'got' it, my own noggin is to blame. I've trusted no government since we were told trickle down would make us all richer. I saw through that in 1982 and have yet to be proved wrong.

What I'm saying is, show us the proof before apportioning the blame.

Minimammoth · 17/03/2018 06:41

Not really understanding the American system of government, can I ask a question please. The White House ‘ cabinet’ , it’s seems that any old acquaintance, of POTUS can be pulled in to serve. They don’t have to be elected in any way? Is that right. These ‘ ministers’ or ‘secretaries’ are not serving or elected members of senate ? Seems open to corruption if so.

Sleipnirthewonderhorse · 17/03/2018 06:47

McCabe's statement on his firing-

I have been an FBI Special Agent for over 21 years. I spent half of that time investigating Russian Organized Crime as a street agent and Supervisor in New York City. I have spent the second half of my career focusing on national security issues and protecting this country from terrorism. I served in some of the most challenging, demanding investigative and leadership roles in the FBI. And I was privileged to serve as Deputy Director during a particularly tough time.

For the last year and a half, my family and I have been the targets of an unrelenting assault on our reputation and my service to this country. Articles too numerous to count have leveled every sort of false, defamatory and degrading allegation against us. The President's tweets have amplified and exacerbated it all. He called for my firing. He called for me to be stripped of my pension after more than 20 years of service. And all along we have said nothing, never wanting to distract from the mission of the FBI by addressing the lies told and repeated about us.
No more.

The investigation by the Justice Department's Office of Inspector General (OIG) has to be understood in the context of the attacks on my credibility. The investigation flows from my attempt to explain the FBI's involvement and my supervision of investigations involving Hillary Clinton. I was being portrayed in the media over and over as a political partisan, accused of closing down investigations under political pressure. The FBI was portrayed as caving under that pressure, and making decisions for political rather than law enforcement purposes. Nothing was further from the truth. In fact, this entire investigation stems from my efforts, fully authorized under FBI rules, to set the record straight on behalf of the Bureau, and to make clear that we were continuing an investigation that people in DOJ opposed.

The OIG investigation has focused on information I chose to share with a reporter through my public affairs officer and a legal counselor. As Deputy Director, I was one of only a few people who had the authority to do that. It was not a secret, it took place over several days, and others, including the Director, were aware of the interaction with the reporter. It was the type of exchange with the media that the Deputy Director oversees several times per week. In fact, it was the same type of work that I continued to do under Director Wray, at his request. The investigation subsequently focused on who I talked to, when I talked to them, and so forth. During these inquiries, I answered questions truthfully and as accurately as I could amidst the chaos that surrounded me. And when I thought my answers were misunderstood, I contacted investigators to correct them.
But looking at that in isolation completely misses the big picture. The big picture is a tale of what can happen when law enforcement is politicized, public servants are attacked, and people who are supposed to cherish and protect our institutions become instruments for damaging those institutions and people.

Here is the reality: I am being singled out and treated this way because of the role I played, the actions I took, and the events I witnessed in the aftermath of the firing of James Comey. The release of this report was accelerated only after my testimony to the House Intelligence Committee revealed that I would corroborate former Director Comey's accounts of his discussions with the President. The OIG's focus on me and this report became a part of an unprecedented effort by the Administration, driven by the President himself, to remove me from my position, destroy my reputation, and possibly strip me of a pension that I worked 21 years to earn. The accelerated release of the report, and the punitive actions taken in response, make sense only when viewed through this lens. Thursday's comments from the White House are just the latest example of this.

This attack on my credibility is one part of a larger effort not just to slander me personally, but to taint the FBI, law enforcement, and intelligence professionals more generally. It is part of this Administration's ongoing war on the FBI and the efforts of the Special Counsel investigation, which continue to this day. Their persistence in this campaign only highlights the importance of the Special Counsel's work.

I have always prided myself on serving my country with distinction and integrity, and I always encouraged those around me to do the same. Just ask them. To have my career end in this way, and to be accused of lacking candor when at worst I was distracted in the midst of chaotic events, is incredibly disappointing and unfair. But it will not erase the important work I was privileged to be a part of, the results of which will in the end be revealed for the country to see.

I have unfailing faith in the men and women of the FBI and I am confident that their efforts to seek justice will not be deterred.

amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/03/16/politics/mccabe-fired-statement-fbi-deputy-director/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 17/03/2018 06:53

Re: trump’s gloating, petty tweet

Christina Wilkie
@christinawilkie
If McCabe appeals his firing (which it appears he will do), then Trump just made the job of proving that McCabe was fired unjustly to satisfy Trump’s vendetta a whole lot easier.

OuaisMaisBon · 17/03/2018 06:59

Well, McCabe's statement is a hell of a lot more statesmanlike than #45 can ever aspire to be. Is the sub-text that he thinks Trump is Putin's puppet or is that just me?

Here's something else which I saw on Twitter this morning, from the former director of the US Office of Government Ethics, (resigned, not fired by Trump), now Senior Director, Ethics, at the Campaign Legal Center, a nonpartisan organization of election-law experts located in Washington DC.
Walter Shaub
‏Verified account @waltshaub
2h2 hours ago

Walter Shaub Retweeted Donald J. Trump

POTUS appearing to interfere in a disciplinary process for career officials is dangerous. Due process protections for career feds ensure that politicians don’t interfere in activities that should be carried out objectively, like criminal investigations and other functions /1

Walter Shaub added,
Donald J. Trump
Verified account @realDonaldTrump
Andrew McCabe FIRED, a great day for the hard working men and women of the FBI - A great day for Democracy. Sanctimonious James Comey was his boss and made McCabe look like a choirboy. He knew all about the lies and corruption going on at the highest levels of the FBI!
158 replies 2,324 retweets 4,606 likes
Show this thread

OhYouBadBadKitten · 17/03/2018 06:59

Goodness, I was only asleep five hours and all this happened?

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 17/03/2018 07:03

Gov. Mike Huckabee
@GovMikeHuckabee
Breaking Wind from CNN! Andy McCabe offered deal for lying to FBI and won’t get pension but will get passage in overhead bin on United flight to Oakland to work for scofflaw mayor.

In case you missed it, it’s referring to this story. Warning that it’s upsetting content about animal cruelty:

www.cnbc.com/2018/03/14/united-airlines-passenger-told-flight-attendant-her-pet-was-in-bag.html

OhYouBadBadKitten · 17/03/2018 07:08
Shock
Roussette · 17/03/2018 07:09

This is in response to Trump's vile tweet about McCabe. Let's hope.

Rep. Eric Swalwell

Verified account

@RepSwalwell
Follow Follow @RepSwalwell
More Rep. Eric Swalwell Retweeted Donald J. Trump
Gloat now, but you will be fired soon. And it’s not going to be done cowardly, as you’ve done to so many who’ve served you. There’s a storm gathering, Mr. President, and it’s going to wipe out you and your corrupt organization all the way down to the studs.

Swipe left for the next trending thread