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PerkingFaintly · 12/03/2018 00:02

Oh whoops, here we are.Grin

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3180160-Trump-talk-HOW-MUCH-for-that-inauguration?pg=1

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TheClaws · 16/03/2018 03:29

Wall Street Journal confirms Washington Post report about McMaster.

Caroline O. @RVAWonk 27min
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Caroline O. Retweeted Rebecca Ballhaus
NEW: @WSJ confirms @washingtonpost report that Trump has decided to fire H.R. McMaster from his position as national security adviser.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 16/03/2018 05:25

Caroline O.
@RVAwonk
Today: H.R. McMaster proposes "serious political and economic consequences" for Russian aggression, including "atrocities" in Syria and the "abhorrent nerve agent attack" on Sergei Skripal.

Hours later: Trump decides to remove H.R. McMaster as his national security adviser.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 16/03/2018 05:27

Amy Siskind
@Amy_Siskind
Trump has been slowly dismantling our fragile democracy. Now, with a neutered Republican Party and an increasingly unstaffed executive branch and White House, he’s shifted into a new gear to seize power.

And

Peter Daou
@peterdaou
Many people see chaos in an endless string of firings, but it's actually consolidation of power in one individual, and demonstrates that everyone else is expendable.

OuaisMaisBon · 16/03/2018 05:37

PainInTheEar - this is terrifying. "The Great Dictator" rides again.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 16/03/2018 05:39

Jonathan Cheng
@JChengWSJ
No Tillerson? No problem. S. Korea's foreign minister, originally scheduled to meet Rex in Washington, will meet Ivanka instead.
(link: bit.ly/2pg3JfA)

OuaisMaisBon · 16/03/2018 06:05

I am more deeply depressed than ever.

Caroline O.
@RVAwonk

Trump looks to replace H.R. McMaster with a national security adviser who is "fun" and "good on television." 🙃

First reply:

Paul McMorris
@paulmcmorris411
3h3 hours ago
Replying to @RVAwonk

JFC. He really thinks this whole presidenting thing is a TV show where only ratings matter, not substance.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 16/03/2018 06:08

theclaws as long as it's not Bolton. I will take fun and good on TV if that doesn't include a well documented desire to use nuclear bombs at every opportunity. Although seeing as this is Trump, he probably does this of Bolton as fun and good on TV Sad

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 16/03/2018 06:11

On Russia and energy

Sarah Kendzior
@sarahkendzior
In June, Senator McCain announced that Russia had created "a cyber weapon that can disrupt the US power grids and telecommunications infrastructure."

And then it got worse. My latest on Russian cyber attacks: amp.fastcompany.com/40515682/the-other-scary-foreign-hacking-threat-trump-is-ignoring

And

Naveed Jamali
@NaveedAJamali
Gaining access to a system in of itself is not a cyberattack. Yes Russia has the capability to wage cyber war just like they have the capability to drop nukes on us — doesn’t mean they will.
This sounds like preparing of the battle space, which is something you would do in case of a war. Russia isn’t going to actually start turning power grids off.
We do the same and likely have a list of cyber targets we would hit. That means that we’ve mapped out weak spots and ways in.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 16/03/2018 06:17

Natasha Bertrand
@NatashaBertrand
Congressional investigators determined that a longtime NRA attorney expressed concerns about the group’s ties to Russia and possible involvement in channeling Russian money into the election to help Trump; she calls the finding "a complete fabrication"

NRA lawyer said to have had concerns about group’s ties to Russia
www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/congress/article205412394.html

Also separately
(noteworthy given Papadopolous is cooperating with Mueller and was approached by Josef Mitford in London etc)

George Papadopoulos
@GeorgePapa19
Fascinating article about the city of so many mysteries, London:

Spies, lies and the oligarch: inside London’s booming secrets industry
www.ft.com/content/1411b1a0-a310-11e7-9e4f-7f5e6a7c98a2

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 16/03/2018 06:19

Thread on bots and messaging on Skripal

Conspirador Norteño
@conspirator0
In the wake of the #Novichok nerve agent attack on Sergei #Skripal and his daughter in #Salisbury, a variety of suggestions that anyone other than Vladimir Putin’s government is responsible have been circulating on Twitter. #Whataboutism

twitter.com/conspirator0/status/974418530383769601

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 16/03/2018 06:33

White supremacy and the descent into fascism:

Kyle Griffin
@kylegriffin1
Rep. Colleen Hanabusa asks Ryan Zinke about grant funding for institutions that provide education on Japanese internment camps during World War II.

Ryan Zinke starts his response by saying “Oh, konnichiwa.”

twitter.com/maziehirono/status/974398110851108865

And

END THE ILLEGAL DETENTION OF ASYLUM SEEKERS

action.aclu.org/petition/end-illegal-detention-asylum-seekers

The ACLU has filed a class action lawsuit against the Trump administration’s cruel and unconstitutional practice of locking up asylum seekers without due process. The nine plaintiffs in the case are all fleeing persecution, torture, or death in their countries of origin. They passed government screenings and were found to have strong claims for asylum which should be heard in court. But against all standards of decency – and constitutionality – Trump has locked them up. Indefinitely.

The detention of asylum seekers is not only cruel and wasteful – it’s illegal. It violates the Constitution, U.S. law, international law, and the Department of Homeland Security’s own written policy. Yet again, the Trump administration has crossed the line in effort to push its hateful, anti-immigrant agenda.

And

White supremacist bomber arrested in Delaware

www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2018/03/15/white-supremacist-bomber-arrested-delaware#.WqtQM_8liJc.twitter

And

Austin Package Bombs Appear to Be Targeting Prominent Black Families

nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/03/austin-bombs-appear-to-be-targeting-prominent-black-families.html?utm_source=tw&utm_medium=s3&utm_campaign=sharebutton-t

And

The University Of Hartford student who harassed her black roommate with bodily fluids was given a special treatment to avoid a criminal record.

University Of Hartford Student Who Harassed Roomate with Bodily Fluids Gets Special Form of Probation
www.okayplayer.com/news/university-of-hartford-student-charges-case.html

And

White men stockpile guns because they’re scared of black people and feel inadequate, science says
www.rawstory.com/2018/03/white-men-stockpile-guns-theyre-scared-black-people-feel-inadequate-science-says/

And

Republicans Say Forced Labor Is Good for Detained Immigrants in Letter Defending Private Prison

GEO Group is being sued for paying aliens $1 a day or less while they’re locked up. GOP lawmakers say there’s nothing wrong with that.

www.thedailybeast.com/republicans-say-forced-labor-is-good-for-detained-immigrants-in-letter-defending-private-prison/

And

CNN
@CNN
The Trump administration's pick to head the UN organization that coordinates assistance to migrants worldwide regularly pushed anti-Muslim sentiment, including claims that Muslims were trying to impose Sharia law in the US cnn.it/2HEJeAJ

And

'We are the forgotten people': It's been almost six months since Hurricane Maria, and Puerto Ricans are still dying

edition.cnn.com/2018/03/15/politics/puerto-rico-six-month-deaths-sutter-invs/index.html

And

WLOS
@WLOS_13
JUST IN: The Fraternal Order of Police lodge in Asheville has been vandalized, with "Black Lives Matter" spray-painted on the exterior. #avlnews #LiveOnWLOS

Gennette Cordova
@GNCordova
More Gennette Cordova Retweeted WLOS
Video surveillance has shown that a white person did this, which all Black people knew when they initially saw this story

And [Carltonn Michael Gary is black]

DNA Shows He’s Not a Killer. Georgia Still Wants to Execute Him Tomorrow.

Carlton Michael Gary was sentenced to death in 1986. He’s scheduled to die Thursday. In between came new evidence casting doubt on his conviction—and pointing to sabotage.

www.thedailybeast.com/dna-shows-hes-not-a-killer-georgia-wants-to-execute-him

David Rose
@DavidRoseUK
An innocent man I’ve known for 20 years will become the victim of a cold-blooded judicial murder later today unless he gets a stay of execution. Please share @CliveSSmith @EliLake @RichardScorer @arusbridger @mikehogan @HenryCPorter

Roussette · 16/03/2018 06:59

So McMaster is off then? I think it's been one of those weeks where you think 'can things get much worse' and then they do. It has to get worse to get better...

@rebeccaballhaus
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Confirmed: Trump has told Kelly he has decided to oust McMaster, administration officials tell me + @MichaelCBender. Trump doesn’t yet have a replacement in mind and wants a more graceful exit for McMaster than he afforded Tillerson, whom he fired via tweet.

Roussette · 16/03/2018 07:01

Someone really needs to tell the Press Sec

Sarah Sanders

Verified account

@PressSec
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Just spoke to @POTUS and Gen. H.R. McMaster - contrary to reports they have a good working relationship and there are no changes at the NSC.

7:12 pm - 15 Mar 2018

lettuceWrap · 16/03/2018 07:32

Across, that was my immediate thought on reading about Trump junior divorcing- this may be a strategic divorce to protect assets... although that opens up the risk she’ll be forced to testify against him at some future point. *

Lion,* As a science graduate, I find the gutting of facts and explanation from FEMA strategic documents very concerning. Yet another attack on science and education by the Trump regime.

Lweji · 16/03/2018 07:45

Trump doesn’t yet have a replacement in mind
Probably true and not surprising.

Therefore bullshit:
and wants a more graceful exit for McMaster than he afforded Tillerson

It's not a good thing that weak spots were identified. Russian hacking of the power grid is a threat. A clear one. Like the poisoning was.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 16/03/2018 07:50

Bolton. I think he’s going to go with Bolton.

Quantumblue · 16/03/2018 08:10

I'm now with jaw permanently agape gazing dumbly at the revolving door as it spins.

OuaisMaisBon · 16/03/2018 08:32

In other, slightly more cheerful news, I just saw this from 14th March:

Katers
@katerstots

Fun PA-18 voting anecdote for y'all: I had the privilege of witnessing an 18 year old ride his bike 2+ miles while it was snowing in order to vote for Conor Lamb in his first special election. His mother wouldn't drive him because she didn't agree with his intended vote.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 16/03/2018 08:37

Larry Kudlow - Trump's replacement for Gary Cohn as director of the National Economic Council.

From Dec 2016:
Trump advisor: The wealthy can't be corrupt because they're wealthy

CNBC's Larry Kudlow is extremely impressed with Donald Trump's work of late, writing in a new National Review piece the president-elect's transition "continues to go smoothly. Better than smoothly. Confidently. More than confidently. Transcendently."
There was no indication that he was kidding.

Kudlow, an advisor to Trump's team for months, is reportedly the top candidate to lead the next White House Council of Economic Advisers, despite the fact that Kudlow is not an economist and his track record on economic issues is hard to defend. Nevertheless, the CNBC host appears interested in joining the administration, and he knows that with Trump, flattery can be very effective.

But what was especially striking in Kudlow's National Review piece was the assertion that the wealthy are incapable of corruption because they're wealthy. "Why shouldn't the president surround himself with successful people?" he wrote, referring to the rich conservatives Trump has added to his incoming team. "Wealthy folks have no need to steal or engage in corruption."

This is not a good argument.

OuaisMaisBon · 16/03/2018 08:51

That is the most cretinous argument I've seen from anyone bar Trump in a long time.

OuaisMaisBon · 16/03/2018 08:52

Apologies if my vocabulary is not PC. But honestly Angry

Lweji · 16/03/2018 09:15

Larry Kudlow apparently refused to call the last recession.

www.google.pt/amp/s/www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2018-03-14/kudlow-s-best-worst-calls-from-no-2007-recession-to-trump-bump

AgnesSkinner · 16/03/2018 09:30

John Fugelsang @johnfugelsang

I refuse to joke about Vanessa Trump bc it's NEVER funny when a couple files for an uncontested quick divorce, one where assets can be swiftly transferred, on the same day an independent special counsel subpoenas their family business. People, this could happen to you someday.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 16/03/2018 09:59

Not to be a pedant but mueller issued the subpoenas a few weeks ago Grin

AgnesSkinner · 16/03/2018 10:19

Awwww, don’t ruin a juicy Tweet for me Smile

NYT reported the sub poenas had been filed (at some previous point in time) on the same day as Mr & Mrs Donny Jnr filed for divorce so I can see why it’s seen as suspicious.

Maybe Donny Jnr has worked out that Bernie Madoff’s wife didn’t get to keep his ill gotten gains?

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