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Even if you subpoena us, we won't turn up on the Trump threads

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PerkingFaintly · 12/03/2018 00:02

Oh whoops, here we are.Grin

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3180160-Trump-talk-HOW-MUCH-for-that-inauguration?pg=1

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cozietoesie · 15/03/2018 06:48

A fairly large fee, I imagine.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 15/03/2018 06:57

I believe he tried something similar earlier and it was thrown out

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 15/03/2018 06:59

First a storm, now a flood?

Stormy Daniels' Lawyer Says More Women Are Exploring Legal Cases Against President Trump

A lawyer representing the adult film actress said he has received inquires from other women about potential cases against the president.

www.buzzfeed.com/jimdalrympleii/stormy-daniels-lawyer-says-more-women-are-exploring-legal?utm_term=.ewemWVELk#.ckLMOKRqa

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 15/03/2018 07:02

Another Trump lawyer signed Stormy Daniels gag-order documents

www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/amp/another-trump-lawyer-signed-stormy-daniels-gag-order-documents-n856786

A top lawyer for the Trump Organization was involved in trying to enforce a secrecy agreement that adult film star Stormy Daniels signed in exchange for $130,000 before the 2016 election, new documents show.

Jill A. Martin, whose LinkedIn profile says she is assistant general counsel for the company, last month signed two legal papers linked to a temporary restraining order against the actress, whose legal name is Stephanie Clifford.

It’s the latest link between the Trump organization and efforts to silence Clifford, who says in a lawsuit that she had an "intimate" relationship with Donald Trump a decade before he became president. [...]

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 15/03/2018 07:05

BuzzFeed maneuver could free Stormy Daniels to speak on Trump

www.politico.com/story/2018/03/14/buzzfeed-stormy-daniels-trump-462261

[...]The same Trump attorney who brokered the deal with Daniels, Michael Cohen, filed a libel suit in January against BuzzFeed and four of its staffers over publication of the so-called dossier compiling accurate, inaccurate and unproven allegations about Trump’s relationship with Russia.

Now, BuzzFeed is using Cohen’s libel suit as a vehicle to demand that Daniels preserve all records relating to her relationship with Trump, as well as her dealings with Cohen and the payment he has acknowledged arranging in 2016.

On Tuesday, BuzzFeed’s lawyer wrote to Daniels’ attorney asking that the adult film actress, whose real name is Stephanie Clifford, preserve various categories of documents. Such preservation letters are often a prelude to a subpoena. If Daniels’ testimony is formally demanded in a deposition, the nondisclosure agreement would likely be no obstacle, legal experts said.

The letter from BuzzFeed’s attorney, obtained by POLITICO, argues that Cohen’s role in paying Daniels is similar to allegations in the dossier about Cohen. The dossier alleges that Cohen met Russian legal officials and legislators in Prague in August 2016 in a bid to “sweep … under the carpet” details of the relationship between Russia and Trump campaign officials like Paul Manafort and Rick Gates. Cohen has flatly denied the claim.

“Mr. Cohen’s role in President Trump’s 2016 campaign, including but not limited to any payments he made or facilitated to third parties during or in connection with the campaign, is therefore directly relevant to” Cohen’s suit, BuzzFeed lawyer Katherine Bolger wrote.

cozietoesie · 15/03/2018 07:06

Has Mr Pence opined?

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 15/03/2018 07:12

Not to my knowledge.

Has hope hicks actually left the white House yet, do we know?

cozietoesie · 15/03/2018 07:13

I 'imagine' that 45 gave some fairly categorical assuranes to 'Mother' about his love life. .

cozietoesie · 15/03/2018 07:14

I could write the story now in fact.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 15/03/2018 07:21

I think after the access Hollywood tapes, the affairs, 3 wives, running miss world competitions, cameos in porn etc the Pences already knew what sort of man trump was before they jumped into bed with him. I’m not convinced any reassurances were needed just a protective fog of disinfectant and antibiotics perhaps

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 15/03/2018 07:26

Also, I know we joke about Mother and Pence’s seeming domination by her but in reality, isn’t that handmaidens sort of approach to women actually using a mask of pretending to honour and respect women to subjugate them and restrict their options?

I don’t really know about Karen pence - perhaps she is the one that’s stops Pence’s having meetings/lunch alone with other women and is the driving force for all of his weirdness - but in general I’d have thought that this fake deference to women is used as a tool of oppression against them.

cozietoesie · 15/03/2018 07:35

What they know in their gut and what they 'officially know' might be two different things. A 'sinner come to repentance' is very powerful. Timing is all.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 15/03/2018 07:43

I’m afraid I think it’s all for show. I think the religious veneer is a performance because how can anyone who follows the scriptures in any way other than as a means to hold on to power and white identity think trump is a suitable leader.

I think they know. Not just in their gut, but properly. Because all this information isn’t a secret, it’s very much out in the open. If they choose to pretend they don’t know, it’s not the same as not actually knowing. And again, that just serves the public veneer of religiousness.

cozietoesie · 15/03/2018 07:46

I hesitate to use the JFK attack on Nixon - you recall . ' Would you buy a used car from this man?' But 'Would you allow this man to babysit your children.' ?

lionheart · 15/03/2018 07:50

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In fundraising speech tonight, Trump says he made up facts on trade in meeting with Trudeau. "I didn’t even know. ... I had no idea. I just said ‘You’re wrong.’" Government data shows Trump was wrong. Post has the audio.

Roussette · 15/03/2018 07:51

Did I read somewhere in the dim and distant past that Pence's wife, i.e. Mother, absolutely loathes Trump. I imagine the VP feels the same, being an evangelical, amazing isn't it, how so many people can compromise their beliefs?

lionheart · 15/03/2018 07:55

The hearings for this will be something else.

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/mar/14/gina-haspel-torture-trump-cia-director-pick-has-to-face-past

cozietoesie · 15/03/2018 07:55

Y'all know my views on what 'people' thought pre-Election.

lionheart · 15/03/2018 08:04

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The temperature of 🇷🇺 🇬🇧 relations drops to ➖2️⃣3️⃣, but we are not afraid of cold weather.

cozietoesie · 15/03/2018 08:10

Perhaps not. But they know it all the same.

Stuffofawesome · 15/03/2018 08:12

Of course they're not afraid, they have nerve agents and nukes and know Uk will welcome their billionaires again in no time

TheNorthWestPawsage · 15/03/2018 08:17

Re 15th March - isn't Trump a "front-stabber"? (Et tu, Scaramucci)

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 15/03/2018 08:19

I don’t their confidences comes from nukes or nerve agents - should it come to an actual war, the rest of the world with their alliances would come out better off.

The money is the key. It acts as a disincentive for governments to act. See republicans, nra etc for parallels.

cozietoesie · 15/03/2018 08:40

Let us all remember Alexander Litvinenko.

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