Does it worry you that six WOMEN are convicted of rape?

[loveyouradvice]

Mail today..... about how far more sex crimes are being committed by women....including six rapes.

To commit rape you have to have a penis - that is the definition of rape (intentionally penetrating vagina, anus or mouth with his penis without consent)

So at least six of these crimes committed by women - and probably far more - have been committed by men who identify as women.....

This really worries me

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5465541/Record-number-women-convicted-sex-crimes-Britain.html

[ItsAllGoingToBeFine]

Some of this may or may not be relevant:

transcrimeuk.com/2016-convictions/

[Hoardinghobbit]

It could be that you someone is convicted for being what is erroneously called an 'accessory'. For example if a gang fight results in a stabbing, all gang members might be convicted of manslaughter/murder if they were aware that someone in the gang had a knife - even if they were unarmed. There is no 'accessory' to an offence, it is the same offence. The women concerned could have been a willing part of an group of abusers.

[Ereshkigal]

They could have been, yes. But I think it's fair to ask how common this is in practice.

[Ereshkigal]

This is the thing, everyone talking about joint enterprise where a woman was convicted of rape is referring to a case in 2001.

[mirialis]

Ereshkigal - I just really want to know the facts on this and signed up to a (free) account on thelawpageslcom

I think, from the basis of that, women CAN be charged and convicted or rape (by joint enterprise/aiding and abetting) but there was nothing like 6 per year and all bar one I saw were an abused woman). There was one where the woman was clearly not an abused woman being cajoled into anything and as he actually got a longer sentenced than the man she had "organised" to do the raping.


The one we have discussed from 2016 was Julie Beards (awful and heart-breaking story) but there didn't seem to be any other rapes by women in 2016. I don't doubt the MoHJ stats but they are not showing up in what is available to the public.

I have no reason to think the people who committed these crimes and were recorded as "female" were not female, but there were 2 murders that were committed by born males who were recorded as "female".

[worridmum]

the upper end of sentences are the same rape and sexual assault carry the same maximum. But the problem with lumping all sexual crimes together lumps things like forced sex (aka sex without consent i cannot call it rape) is classed the same as a simply unwanted sexually attention someone pinching your bottom.

The difference if with the crime sexual assault there is no minimum tariff and the definition is so broad with the spectruim of things that fall with it so vastly different its almost disgusting they are treated the same.

sex without consent is AS BAD AS rape but if its done without a penis (sexist crap) is branded as sexual assault which also covers someone being having the bottom pinched or breast groped (i am NOT saying either is good but one is much much worse its like scarping murder and manslaughter charge and lumping it together with normally assault.

Woman commit sexual crimes every day but in England and Wales its true that their is only a couple of female rapist but if with could class ALL non consensual sex as being rape the figures would not be any where as low as people think it would be.

In most of Europe non-consensual sex = rape but not in England and Wales were it is labelled simply as sexual assault.

[Ereshkigal]

You're wrong worridmum. What you describe is not classed the same as a more minor sexual assault. It is a specific offence "causing sexual activity without consent".

www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/42/section/4