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AIBU to think Mumsnet need to revise their talk guidelines?

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abeautifulmess · 05/03/2018 15:43

I have reported a number of threads recently and the mumsnet response has been 'we don't allow posts that break our talk guidelines' and nothing has been done when the whole thread has been attacking a particular (and vulnerable) group.

AIBU to question these guidelines and how they are applied?

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Iminthecclubnow · 07/03/2018 10:22

I kind of think of the trans movement as a bit like religion.

I will never believe that 'trans women are women' in the same way I don't believe in God. Some people do believe trans women are women. Some believe in it to the extent that they will change their bodies to live as, what they believe is, a woman. That is fine, I have no issue with that, in the same way that I have no issue with people who are religious.

I have a few friends and acquaintances who are quite devoutly Christian and Muslim. I don't believe what they believe, I am puzzled as to how they can actually believe in it if I am being honest, and sometimes I disagree with certain parts of how they live their lives (and I know they think the same about me eg. Alcohol etc) , but none of what they do affects me, so we get on.

However, if they began to tell me that I had to believe in God or Allah, if they told me that I had to take part in their prayers with them and repeat their mantras, if they told me that I had to behave in a certain way, all for something that I strongly believe is NOT TRUE, and if I didn't do this I was a hateful bigot, then I would take issue with that.

It has been said before on other threads, but can anyone think of another legitimate movement of recent times where you have to believe that a person is something that they are absolutely, objectively NOT?

ferntwist · 07/03/2018 13:24

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MaisyPops · 07/03/2018 19:58

Men aren’t women. We should have empathy and compassion for people who feel they’re not right in their bodies but we don’t have to rewrite the world and it’s history to make them feel better,
This!!!
I have heaps of compassion for those who genuinely feel they have gender dysphoria. It must be awful. I support them transitioning (regardless of my own gender critical views).
I think you should have to have fully transitioned to get GRC but the current set up is better than none/stupid self ID.

That said, I will not deny biological fact to make a small bunch of TRA fanatics feel better about themselves.

TRA are dangerous and predatory.
They a fucking liability for women's rights and a shitty representation of genuine transpeople who don't want to be associated with trans-trender youtubers who are in a lesbian relationship heterosexual relationship between a biological boy and girl and think that actual lesbians who are attracted to biological women should sleep with a biological man to avoid being a bigoted transphobe.

ferntwist · 08/03/2018 08:10

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