to say dd needs to stay at school

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foundation class trip walking to the local shops, teachers not told me just heard from another parent who has been asked to help get them there. they have to cross a known busy road - no traffic lights there.
its a big class of 32, I don't feel comfortable I think I'm going to say they'll have to leave her behind - aibu?

Totally agree with teen.

The thing is, teachers need parent helpers who will help. And help constructively with all the children not just their own. An anxious parent is far more likely than a confident parent to just focus on their own child.

Being an anxious parent does not mean you are not a confident parent. You can be anxious about the ability of the other parents in your class to be on the ball while being confident in your own abilities.

Being anxious about other parents looking after your child on a trip does not make you unable to help constructively. If anything, I'd suggest they are more likely to watch the children in their little group properly because they are more anxious about the trip in general and so will be more alert and on the ball.

Being anxious about other parents looking after your child on a trip does not make you unable to help constructively. If anything, I'd suggest they are more likely to watch the children in their little group properly because they are more anxious about the trip in general and so will be more alert and on the ball.

That is not true at all in my experience of running trips, no. The anxious parents that I have taken on trips in the past have been next to no use with anyone else’s children in their group and have caused the school staff considerable additional stress.

That is not true at all in my experience of running trips, no. The anxious parents that I have taken on trips in the past have been next to no use with anyone else’s children in their group and have caused the school staff considerable additional stress.

I suppose you'll have some anxious parents who are crap helpers in much the same way some not anxious parents are crap helpers on school trips. There'll be some great helpers of both types too.

Oh jeez.

I have no doubt at all that your extreme over anxiety is linked to your daughter ‘not settling’ in at school.

Please find a way to address this before you severely hamper her development

The stats you see in relation to this road have no bearing whatsoever on the trip because THEY WILL STOP THE TRAFFIC.

30 odd 5 year olds are not going to be hanging around waiting for a gap in the cars, and darting across!!

As a teacher I wouldn't have asked OP to be a helper either, exactly because of the behaviour she's displayed on her threads. I don't need an anxious parent fluttering about when I'm trying to wrangle the class, I need someone who can step up and not over worry. Ime the anxious parents are overly concerned with their children, instead of the group as a whole.

I might do a more open call for volunteers for in class work, but not on a trip. Some parents are great candidates for trip work, some are not.

OP, I think you really need to reassess this. If you want your child to settle, removing her from her peers and making her miss out on activities is not the way to do it.

I'm also always very amused by the UK posters insistence on the risk assessments - we don't do it here. That's not to say we don't sit down and talk through any dangers/how best to manage it, but we don't fill out paperwork on it. Somehow we all survive.

Schools do not need parental permission for trips occuring entirely within the school day anyway.

I have feeling that OP is not happy about school in general and I don't see this as strange or over-anxious . It happens, not all schools are the same and not all teachers are the same. Also you know less about the system with your first child hence lots of questions and concerns . It's natural, it's just lack of knowledge. Good school will be understanding and help a parent with this.

I’m not happy with the school overall not only have they not been proactive in helping my dd, there’s been a couple of safeguarding issues in the school overall recently which worry not only me but quite a few of the parents (higher years not just foundation).
School was closed due to Snow.
I don’t think I am over anxious without reason about dd not settling at school- I don’t think that pinning her response and change in behaviour is due to my anxiety I think that’s really unfair actually.
I’ve been overly positive with dd focusing on the good of the school, trying things to improve her making friends and feeling more confident socially. My concerns have been hidden from her as I’ve mindful not to encourage her playing up for attention which people have suggested it might be.

What are the safeguarding issues?

Man, reading these threads makes me glad I don't live in the UK.

"Risk assessments" for crossing a road? Bloody hell.

If you truly believe there are safeguarding issues, you should report them to the governing body and ofsted. You should not be discussing them here.

Otherwise, it sounds to me like you're massively overreacting and the school will think you're an overprotective parent. This trip will have been risk assessed, it will be suitably staffed and will be insured. Schools cannot just take pupils out wherever they like without thinking through the processes first.

Without wanting to sound harsh, your anxiety is much more likely to impact your child's health and happiness than a supervised trip to the shops which involves crossing a road.

This sort of thing is part of a teacher's/TA's job and as has been said numerous times, will have been risk-assessed to death.

But if you feel like this about a trip of this sort how are you going to feel when she goes out at night on her own? goes abroad on her own for the first time?

It does sound like you need to get some help for your anxiety. Firstly its not helpful for you at all to be worrying so disproportionately about a very low and entirely manageable risk. Secondly this will rub off your daughter at a time when she desperately needs to build up her confidence and make friends.

Like I’ve said my anxiety is a response to issues with the school it’s not a cause for my dd’s Trouble settling its happened because of that.
As I’ve got a working knowledge of the road and the traffic flow restrictions we are campaigning to put there honestly this is not a disproportionate response it’s known to be a problem Road people speeding round the blind corner well over the limit which is why there’s been so many accidents and speeding reports for the village anyone in their right mind would be very wary of crossing it with one child never mind 30+

As an ex TA we would walk 30 children down through the village to the church. There will be plenty of adults to supervise. The children will be or certainly should be wearing Hi Vis jackets.

The adults would stand in the road to get traffic to stop when we crossed the road, and ours was quite a busy village road.

Your child will be absolutely fine.

I understand and can well believe what you are saying about the road.

I’m not sure though, why you can’t get your head around the fact that THEY WILL STOP THE TRAFFIC.

There is no way a child will step foot near that road until 2 adults in hi-viz clothing have stopped the traffic.

It’s not like a family trying to do it on their own. That’s why the school organise these sort of outings.

Why have you posted on here if you are just going to either ignore or argue with a anyone who doesn't agree with you?

So you aren't prepared to share the safeguarding issues. There's a surprise.

PPs have explained how the trip will work. Listen to them.

If you've that serious reasons to say the road's that unsafe and the data to back it up, surely you should be going to the school and demanding they don't take any of the children?