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To think that Ellen Ripley from the 'Alien' films is just fucking fabulous?

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Thisusernamethingistricky · 27/02/2018 22:04

So DH and I have spent the last few evenings watching all of the 'Alien' franchise on Film 4. I haven't seen the films in years and it struck me what a great character Ripley is.

She is not conventionally 'beautiful', there are no heaving breasts or arse hugging shorts, but Ripley is absolutely all woman and a total badass.

When she strips down to her vest and knickers at the beginning of the first film, it's actually integral to the plot, so that she could get into her spacesuit to decompress the cabin and kill the alien.

There isn't much 'romance' in the films, but the sexual tension that is there, she is very much in control of. Hicks is mesmerised by how well she can hold her own, and when she shags Charles Dance in the third film again its on her terms as much as his.

In fact all the female characters in the films are great. The sole survivor of the colony in Aliens is a little girl, there are several female secondary characters (Marines, pilots) who are not there as 'women' but just as 'another character' if you see what I mean. Short hair, not 'gender conforming', but absolutely women who hold their own as well as the men.

There are some Bechdel test moments too, with Ripley and Newt and Ripley and Winona Ryders character in Alien Resurrection.

Also in Alien Resurrection the theme of Ripley being a 'Mother' I noticed being shown as a powerful thing. Up until this point her being a woman was almost irrelevant (apart from in Aliens 3 when she is up against all the rapists) she is just a strong character.

I don't know, it feels like it was ahead of its time in terms of strong female characters. I am struggling to think of any films since which have similar - am thinking Katniss Everdeen, but even she is quite sexualised at points and there is the romance thing as a distraction.

Sorry that was long, and I may be over thinking, but I have loved watching these films over the past few evenings!

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DianaPrincessOfThemyscira · 28/02/2018 13:38

@TopBitchoftheWitches DH thinks I’m an unspeakable nerd as I have watched the film with commentary more than once! Blush he won’t let me watch it when he’s about anymore Grin

Incidentally, if you like scaring the shit out of yourself, the Xbox game Alien: Isolation is great. Although I’m only about 10% of the way through over two years later it’s so scary Blush

beargrass · 28/02/2018 13:58

Watch them again? Back to back? Tonight?

Affirmative

PuppyMonkey · 28/02/2018 14:05

We love Ripley in our house too. When our cat had kittens, we named one of them Ripley in her honour.

We also quote the lines all the time. But TBF the one that comes up most is: “looks like some sort of secreted resin.” Randomly. Grin

cellorama · 28/02/2018 14:22

Ripley has always had my heart. Massive crush on her since watching Aliens when I was an impressionable pre-teen.

Aliens is also eminently quotable. Any catastrophe in our house is met with "Well, that's it man. Game over. GAME OVER, MAN!" RIP Bill Paxton...

Also, to be used about troublesome stains/minor damage to fixtures and fittings "I say we take off and nuke it from space. It's the only way to be sure" .

cellorama · 28/02/2018 14:23

Haha PuppyMonkey, you beat me to it. Love the resin line Grin

cellorama · 28/02/2018 14:25

Diana, I had to stop playing Alien isolation. I spent way too much time hiding in cupboards and hyperventilating. After a while I realised that wasn't generally what I would consider a good time, and stopped.

Willow2017 · 28/02/2018 14:29

Another Ripley fan here. Love all the Alien franchise. We often quote things in this house too. Love the brill dialogue in 'Ressurection' Johnno is hilarious
I liked 'Covenant' it messes with your head though😀

Diana its bloody scarey isnt it? I get fed up jumping out my skin and dying.😀

Willow2017 · 28/02/2018 14:31

Mind you that 'baby' at the end of Resurrection scares the bejezus out of me😀

BattleaxeGalactica · 28/02/2018 14:45

Thank you PhilODox

We aim to please Grin

EllenRipley · 28/02/2018 14:57

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😬👍

You called?

TopBitchoftheWitches · 28/02/2018 15:02

@EllenRipley

Well played. Very well played Grin

PhilODox · 28/02/2018 15:08

To quote another sci-fi franchise, I aim to misbehave... Wink

TopBitchoftheWitches · 28/02/2018 15:10

@DianaPrincessOfThemyscira

Fellow Aliens nerd !

EllenRipley · 28/02/2018 15:59

@TopBitchoftheWitches
Have totally not name changed either!

I'm such an Aliens saddo I even managed to write my honours year dissertation on it 😳 not great for one's career prospects 😆

beargrass · 28/02/2018 16:10

Ooh let's read it, Ellen!

StillCounting123 · 28/02/2018 16:11

Hello to my people!

Love the Alien films and characters.

Ellenripley I want to read your dissertation!!

EllenRipley · 28/02/2018 16:20

Hahaaa! Unfortunately it was in ye olde days before proper computers that saved stuff. I remember reading the hard copy (god knows where that is) about five years after I'd written it and it was an impressive semblage of pretentious waffle.

I did have some interesting points to make about 'the male gaze' and the studio forcing Ridley Scott to make Ripley disrobe in the final Alien scene. But now I tend to rewatch purely for the thrills rather than analysis. I even have a soft spot for Alien 3 - has anyone seen the version where the alien is born from a dead cow rather than the dog? Alien Resurrection sucked. And don't get me started on Alien vs Predator.

Middleoftheroad · 28/02/2018 16:24

Alien is the ultimate horror and Ripley, badass.

Anatidae · 28/02/2018 16:25

Yup. Brilliant female character who is calm, collected, intelligent, and saves the day. In fact pretty much all the women in that film are just good characters - nonone is there as ‘resident bimbo’.

Really holds up with the passage of time too. Still terrifying!

What’s sad is how unusual that set up is a Film type.

mirime · 28/02/2018 17:09

Love Ripley :) and Sarah Connor in the Terminator films.

I like Alien and Aliens, Alien 3 is a bit of a curiosity really, but not such a fan of Alien Resurrection - apparently Joss Whedon and Jean-Pierre Jeunet had different ideas about what sort of film it was. What is interesting is to compare the crew of the Betty to the crew of Serenity in Firefly. The former are clearly a bit of a prototype for the latter.

And while doing random trivia, didn't Red Dwarf use some of the sets from Alien or Aliens? Can't remember where I read that now, but I think it was the corridors.

TopBitchoftheWitches · 28/02/2018 18:24

So now we are bring Sarah Connor into this thread.

Love her !

She was kick arse in Terminator 2.

beargrass · 28/02/2018 18:32

Also a Sarah Connor fan. She and Ripley are also v easy to do if you need to dress up!

AdorableMisfit · 28/02/2018 18:36

DH and I love her too. So much we named our daughter Ellen. :)

pepperpot99 · 28/02/2018 18:51

Love love love Ripley and have seen the films so many times Ì practically know the entire script. My favourite line is when the penny drops in 2 and they realise what a sleazeball Burk is:

"Y'know Burke, I don't know which species is worse. You don't see them fucking eachother over for a goddamn percentage". Genius Grin

IntelligentYetIndecisive · 28/02/2018 18:51

Ripley was played by Sigourney Weaver, who is quite extraordinary.

I don't think any other actress could have played Ripley half as well.

For the basketball scene in Alien3, Weaver spent hours perfecting the over the shoulder shot.

She made the shot in the first take and there was a discussion about reshooting it, as it looked fake.

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