To think you don’t beep your horn at pedestrians with sleeping children in prams?

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Just had a total arsehole do this to me, when we were crossing the road. Apparently I wasn’t moving fast enough and I got a mouthful of abuse too.

You don’t do that, do you? I have joint pain, severe pain and depression and DS is ASD and I’d just got him to sleep.

Why do some people enjoy being such knobs to others?

So do all members of the self righteous brigade agree the driver was quite within his rights to be abusive to the OP, too?

Nice

It is a pity the OP did not have the car number plate so it could be reported to the police for the abuse. No need for this even if most of us in this situation would not have begun to cross the road.

As for the comment about it having got worse, I disagree. There have been too many impatient and aggressive drivers for too long, and the culture fostered by Clarkson and those of similar mind that people have some God given right to drive does not help.

surreygirl1987
Exactly!
Cars can turn up in the time from pressing the button to crossing.
I know i can get across the road and back in the time taken to wait for a green man. I couldn't if i was slower so it would be stupid to do it.
And even more ludicrous if I blamef the driver for a situation which arose because I chose to walk out in front of their green light.

Change pedestrian to cyclist (MN love a good cyclist 🤣)
AIBU to think cyclists should follow basic road sense? A cycle path cuts a road on my way home from work. It's a multi use path and it's a pedestrian/cycle crossing.
Anyway, I come down the road, my light is on green but as I get closer to the crossing some cyclist pulls out in front of me! I beeped them which might have been dickish but had I not been paying attention then there could have been an accident. To make it worse, they had a trailer on thr back with a baby in it. I get that having the trailer might have slowed them down a bit but surely if you're taking your kid out on your bike then you use the bloody crossing instead of pulling out when you're on red and cars are on green

Responses would be YANBU. How irresponsible of the cyclist. They clearly weren't paying attention and their actions could have caused an accident. It's not nice to beep but sometimes you have to if people are making stupid decisions.

I said thrre were lights. There was no crossing. It’s just regular lights. The road was empty when we started.

It doesn't matter if there was a crossing, pedestrians crossing the road have right of way over cars. Do drivers should be prepared to slow down and stop when driving through towns, not speeding on through then blaring the horn when anyone dares not to go as fast as they want them to.

Thats the ridiculous! Why do we have crossings if pedestrians can just cross whenever and whereever they like it?
From what I quickly found online ''Vehicles must yield the right of way to pedestrians at plainly marked crosswalks and at intersections where stop signs or flashing red signals are in place.'' not all the time if theres a green light or no crossing cars shouldnt just exept having to emergency stop potentially causing a crash with the cars behind because pedestrians should just ahve the right to step out and cross whenever they feel like it.

So you were crossing the road with a toddler somewhere that wasn't a proper crossing? In that case I'm veering towards YABU.

Where am I supposed to cross then? There isn’t a “crossing” and I have to walk that way.

There was no crossing.

Use a crossing next time then? I dont understand why you would risk crossing in the middle of the road with your child in a pram knowing your disabilities mean you are going to mean you walk slow and theres the risk a car could turn up whilst you were still in the middle of the road. Its like just standing in the middle of the road waiting for a car to come up and hit you.

Why are we being told there were regular lights but no crossing? You mean street lights? Was it dark then? This is getting very confusing and I think we need a colour diagram!

Even if you misjudged the traffic or something, you didn't deserve a mouthful of abuse from the driver. I missed that, I thought he just beeped you.

Cross somewhere else where is is safer and you have a better view of the road, which will give you more time to cross properly. Think that's fairly obvious?

I probably haven’t explained well. There were traffic lights but no button to press for a green man.

Road was completely empty. I’m not sure if light was green or red at first but there were no cars.

I’m not massively slower than others but I’m similarly not able to sprint across because a car has come quickly (which she did).

Is that clearer?

Agree nick.
The driver shouldn't have beeped or been abusive, but equally pedestrians should pay a bit more attention to where they choose to cross the road.

The car was driving at a fair speed - not necessarily. He might have been coming around a bend and not seen that OP was crossing the road or she might have been walking so slowly that he though she was planning on staying out of his lane until after he'd gone by.

OP said driver was abusive to her, well if someone crossed in front of me and I had to beep at them and then told me to piss off I'd be abusive right back at them.

And I think OP is a dope for crossing a road with her child when the traffic wasn't stopped.

It can appear safe to cross at the point that the pedestrian starts to cross. That situation can change.

Road users have a responsibility to look out for other road users including pedestrians who are more vulnerable than a driver protected by a tonne of metal shell. A horn is to warn other road users of your presence e.g. to prevent the pedestrian stepping in front of you, not for retaliating that they were in the space you want to be in.

Why do I leap to the assumption that the driver was over zealous in their use of an accelerator pedal...

mikey You are missing my point. The op either crossed at a section of the road which was unsafe to do so as she didn't have full view of the road in order to see approaching vehicles OR it was travelling at speed which reduced her reaction time. My money's on the former.

I'm agreeing with you.

So if there’s no cars, people stand there waiting for a red light? never seen that, ever.

Sometimes I think MN is its own planet lol

Well you should if you can't cross the road safely in the time that you have.

Regardless of whether op used a crossing or not, if she started crossing way before the car got there, he legally had to give her right of way.

It's whoever comes first!

He's a wanker, she did nothing wrong. He's in a car, she's on foot.

He can fuck off.

But there was a car?!? Or who beeped at you?

Sorry OP, whilst I appreciate you didn’t simply walk into incoming traffic, if you are going to cross the road at a non-crossing you need to be able to move at a decent speed.

I think both you and the car driver were unreasonable.

There wasn’t a car when I first crossed.

So if there’s no cars, people stand there waiting for a red light?never seen that, ever.
Yes or they would know as a reasonably quick walker how long it will take to get them from A to B and if they get beeped then they get beeped because it's their doing. It's their chance to take.

What they wouldn't do is walk out with a buggy knowing they are slower and more vulnerable.