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Trump Talk: or, Lift every voice and sing

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lionheart · 17/02/2018 19:58

It's Black History Month and the fight goes on (plus, we all need a boost that does not come from ye olde hop flask).

Lift every voice and sing

Till earth and heaven ring,
Ring with the harmonies of Liberty;
Let our rejoicing rise
High as the listening skies,
Let it resound loud as the rolling sea.
Sing a song full of the faith that the dark past has taught us,
Sing a song full of the hope that the present has brought us.

Facing the rising sun of our new day begun,
Let us march on till victory is won.

Stony the road we trod,
Bitter the chastening rod,
Felt in the days when hope unborn had died;

Yet with a steady beat,
Have not our weary feet
Come to the place for which our fathers sighed?
We have come over a way that with tears has been watered,
We have come, treading our path through the blood of the slaughtered,
Out from the gloomy past,

Till now we stand at last
Where the white gleam of our bright star is cast.

God of our weary years,

God of our silent tears,
Thou who hast brought us thus far on the way;
Thou who hast by Thy might

Led us into the light,
Keep us forever in the path, we pray.
Lest our feet stray from the places, our God, where we met Thee,
Lest, our hearts drunk with the wine of the world, we forget Thee;
Shadowed beneath Thy hand,

May we forever stand.

True to our God,
True to our native land.

James Weldon Johnson (1900)

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/02/2018 19:41

First National Bank
@FNBOmaha
Replying to @TopRopeTravis and @NRA
Customer feedback has caused us to review our relationship with the NRA. As a result, First National Bank of Omaha will not renew its contract with the National Rifle Association to issue the NRA Visa Card.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/02/2018 20:19

Judge rejects Manafort's latest bail offer

www.politico.com/amp/story/2018/02/22/paul-manafor-bail-rejected-422334?__twitter_impression=true

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/02/2018 20:24

Dustin Volz
@dnvolz
SCOOP: Speaker Ryan and the Trump White House are getting rid of the current chairman of the Election Assistance Commission, a Boehner-picked official who has spent the past year helping states bulletproof election systems from Russian hackers.

mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1G62NI?__twitter_impression=true

lionheart · 22/02/2018 20:33

Just catching up with these latest posts. Stuck on cockwomble and nutter, with good reason. Smile

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cozietoesie · 22/02/2018 20:45

Mr Colbert has the floor.

(Otherwise titled ' The douche doesn't fall far from the bag'.) Wink

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/02/2018 21:05

Barack Obama
@BarackObama
Young people have helped lead all our great movements. How inspiring to see it again in so many smart, fearless students standing up for their right to be safe; marching and organizing to remake the world as it should be. We've been waiting for you. And we've got your backs.

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/02/2018 21:10

Trump legal fund recipients unclear; Flynn says no thanks

abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-legal-fund-recipients-unclear-flynn/story?id=53281888

Former National Security Advisor Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn will not accept support from a new legal fund called the “Patriot Legal Expense Fund” established with President Donald Trump’s campaign funds to help his White House and campaign aides shoulder legal expenses related to the special counsel’s probe, a source close to Flynn told ABC News.

Elizabeth de la Vega
@Delavegalaw
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Michael Flynn has excellent legal representation. And he actually seems to be heeding the advice of is attorney. Accepting $ from the Trump legal fund would be problematic.

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lionheart · 22/02/2018 21:32

He's in so deep you wouldn't think he has much in the way to lose when it comes to reputation.

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/02/2018 21:32

Bree Newsome
@BreeNewsome
"To stop a bad guy with a gun, it takes a good guy with a gun." -Wayne LaPierre

Then why are cops so often able to arrest armed white men without shooting or injuring them while Black people are killed for running away? 👀

See, you can not can NOT separate this entire discussion of guns or the power of the gun lobby from racism and the important role that guns play in maintaining the racist status quo. 2/

It's not simply about gun rights & gun control. It's about UNEQUAL gun rights and UNEQUAL gun control enforcement. It's about how guns are used to terrorize marginalized communities while gun control is used to unequally police marginalized communities 3/

These right-wing, racists like Trump, LaPierre, Loesch & the NRA keep talking about the "bad guys." Have to have guns to protect us from the "bad guys", have to keep guns from the "bad guys" but who do they define as "bad guys"? The mentally ill & people of color 4/

The language they use is barely coded. They make it clear that in their worldview, the 2nd amendment exists for whites looking to protect themselves from immigrants (Latinos) & the violence of Baltimore & Chicago (Black people) b/c the gov't can't 5/

Folks are out here trying to have civil conversations about why children are being gunned down in schools but we can't honestly talk about that w/o talking about how the NRA is motivated by white racist paranoia as much as profit 6/

Let me circle back to this thread I wrote a week ago that I said I would likely revisit since I'm basically revisiting it now 7/

twitter.com/BreeNewsome/status/964282486837645313

[The American obsession with the gun is connected to its history as a major tool of white supremacy and the spread of European colonialism. 1/
Restricting gun access for white men is not simply an issue of the gun industry but also of white supremacist culture 2/
Whenever issue of gun control comes up, folks point out that it would likely have a negative impact on black & brown communities who would be subjected to even greater levels of policing. I agree however... 3
I agree, however, it's important to recognize that Black people are already denied gun rights to a large extent & always have been. Philando Castile was in legal possession of a gun when killed by a cop who was later acquitted & the NRA was silent about it because... 4/
...because the real issue of advocacy for the NRA & other right-wing organizations is maintaining gun rights for white men & in many cases ensuring that white men exercise gun rights others are unable to exercise such as open carry 5/
Recall the cases of Black men being killed by police for carrying BB guns in states that permit open carry. In both the cases of Tamir Rice & John Crawford, their deaths were considered justified even tho they never broke the law 6/
I'm saying all this to say that what is really at issue in the gun debate is the violence of white men & white supremacist capitalist patriarchy & that's why there is such intractable conflict surrounding this topic among the white power structure 7/]

When you survey world & ask why USA has more gun violence than any other developed nation, it is 1st & foremost for 2 reasons:

  1. We have way more guns than other nations
  2. We have way more guns b/c the gun in America is an integral part of white supremacist culture

8/8

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Kelly Wickham Hurst
@mochamomma
I'd remind us all that Philando Castile worked in a school. He had a legally purchased gun. Since he was Black and got profiled and told the officer he HAD a gun he was shot.

Can you imagine people working in schools trying to get to work every day while being Black with a gun?

Y'all not gonna get Black teachers to do this. It'll be one more excuse for chaos to happen when police are called to schools so they can say they 'feared for their lives' with a Black teacher and a gun.

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roxane gay‏Verified account
@rgay
It is interesting to note the difference in support for the kids in FL versus the kids in Black Lives Matter. I say that with full admiration for the kids in FL, to survive such a trauma and fight for everyone to be safer. But that’s also what was happening in Ferguson and beyond

I started to think about this after George Clooney’s announcement. And it isn’t divisive to observe the difference in support from the media, from celebrities, etc. I think the FL kids are fucking awesome but so are the kids in Ferguson and Baltimore and Chicago and more.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/02/2018 21:34

Is he worried about reputation or legal jeopardy though? (if you're referring to Flynn. obv ignore me if you're not!)

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/02/2018 21:40

Kyle Griffin
@kylegriffin1
Mueller files new 32-count indictment against Paul Manafort and Rick Gates. Read it here:

assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4385686/Manafort-2.pdf

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/02/2018 21:43

Manafort is mainly charged with filing false taxes with gates being charged with assisting in the preparation of these and they're both being charged with FARA transgressions and bank fraud.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/02/2018 21:43

He's certianly following the money

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/02/2018 21:47

Special counsel Mueller files new charges in Manafort, Gates case

www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/special-counsel-mueller-files-new-charges-in-manafort-gates-case/2018/02/22/7db99c9c-1716-11e8-8b08-027a6ccb38eb_story.html?utm_term=.6575fc94491c&wpisrc=al_news__alert-politics--alert-national&wpmk=1

Maggie Haberman
@maggieNYT
This isn’t how it works when someone is about to plead guilty

cozietoesie · 22/02/2018 22:00

Oh Boy. Smile

Lots of bedtime reading.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/02/2018 22:09

I didn't mean FARA violations - I meant FBAR violations

Chris Geidner‏Verified account
@chrisgeidner
New time range in the ED VA indictment includes the period for which Manafort and Gates worked for the Trump campaign.

Elizabeth de la Vega
@Delavegalaw
Key point @chrisgeidner. What's also interesting, and critical, about this superseding indictment is that, altho' it alleges laundering of funds, there's NO $ laundering charge. This relieves prosecutors of the burden of proving the $ came from a Specified Unlawful Activity.

[These were the bits that jumped out at me but obv the whole thing is worth reading]

MANAFORT and GATES generated tens of millions of dollars in income as a result of their
Ukraine work. From approximately 2006 through the present, MANAFORT and GATES engaged
in a scheme to hide income from United States authorities, while enjoying the use of the money.
During the first part of the scheme between approximately 2006 and 2015, MANAFORT, with
GATES’ assistance, failed to pay taxes on this income by disguising it as alleged “loans” from
nominee offshore corporate entities and by making millions of dollars in unreported payments
from foreign accounts to bank accounts they controlled and United States vendors. MANAFORT
also used the offshore accounts to purchase United States real estate, and MANAFORT and
GATES used the undisclosed income to make improvements to and refinance their United States
properties.

In total, more than $75,000,000 flowed through the offshore accounts. MANAFORT, with
the assistance of GATES, laundered more than $30,000,000, income that he concealed from the
United States Department of the Treasury (Treasury), the Department of Justice, and others.
GATES obtained more than $3,000,000 from the offshore accounts, income that he too concealed
from the Treasury, the Department of Justice, and others.

[$75,000,000!!]

  1. MANAFORT and GATES also disguised, as purported “loans,” more than $10 million
    transferred from Cypriot entities, including the overseas MANAFORT–GATES entities, to
    domestic entities owned by MANAFORT. For example, a $1.5 million wire from Peranova to
    DMI that MANAFORT used to purchase real estate on Howard Street in Manhattan, New York,
    was recorded as a “loan” from Peranova to DMI, rather than as income. The following loans were
    shams designed to reduce fraudulently MANAFORT’s reported taxable income.

  2. When they were flush with Ukraine funds, MANAFORT, with the assistance of GATES,
    used their offshore accounts to purchase and improve real estate in the United States. When the
    income from Ukraine dwindled in 2014 and 2015, MANAFORT, with the assistance of GATES,
    obtained millions of dollars in mortgages on the United States properties, thereby allowing
    MANAFORT to have the benefits of liquid income without paying taxes on it. MANAFORT and
    GATES defrauded the lenders in various ways, including by lying about MANAFORT’s and
    DMI’s income, lying about their debt, and lying about MANAFORT’s use of the property and the
    loan proceeds. For example, MANAFORT and GATES submitted fabricated profit and loss
    statements (P&Ls) that inflated income, and they caused others to provide doctored financial
    documents.

In late 2015 through early 2016, MANAFORT applied for a mortgage on the Howard Street
condominium from Lender B for approximately $3.4 million. Because the bank would permit a
greater loan amount if the property were owner-occupied, MANAFORT falsely represented to the
lender and its agents that it was a secondary home used as such by his daughter and son-in-law
and was not held as a rental property. In an email on January 6, 2016, MANAFORT noted: “[i]n
order to have the maximum benefit, I am claiming Howard St. as a second home. Not an
investment property.” Later, on January 26, 2016, MANAFORT wrote to his son-in-law to advise
him that when the bank appraiser came to assess the condominium, his son-in-law should
“[r]emember, he believes that you and [MANAFORT’s daughter] are living there.”

MANAFORT, with GATES’ assistance, also made a series of false and fraudulent
representations to the bank in order to secure the millions of dollars in financing. For example,
MANAFORT falsely represented the amount of debt he had by failing to disclose on his loan
application the existence of the Lender A mortgage on his Union Street property. That liability
would have risked his qualifying for the loan. Through its own due diligence, Lender B found
evidence of the existing mortgage on the Union Street property. As a result, Lender B wrote to
MANAFORT and GATES that the “application has the following properties as being owned free
& clear . . . Union Street,” but “[b]ased on the insurance binders that we received last night, we
are showing that there are mortgages listed on these properties, can you please clarify[?]”
33. To cover up the falsity of the loan application, GATES, on MANAFORT’s behalf, caused
an insurance broker to provide Lender B false information, namely, an outdated insurance report
that did not list the Union Street loan. MANAFORT and GATES knew such a representation was
fraudulent. After GATES contacted the insurance broker and asked her to provide Lender B with
false information, he updated MANAFORT by email on February 24, 2016. MANAFORT replied
to GATES, on the same day: “good job on the insurance issues.”

Having failed to secure a falsified P&L from the bookkeeper, GATES falsified the P&L.
GATES wrote to MANAFORT and another conspirator, “I am editing Paul’s 2015 P&L
statement.” GATES then sent the altered P&L to Lender C, which claimed approximately $4.45
million in net income, whereas the true P&L had less than $400,000 in net income.
In March 2016, MANAFORT, with the assistance of GATES and others, applied for a $5.5
million loan from Lender B on the Union Street property. As part of the loan process,
MANAFORT submitted a false statement of assets and liabilities that hid his prior loan from
Lender A on the Union Street property, among other liabilities. In addition, another conspirator
on MANAFORT’s behalf submitted a falsified 2016 DMI P&L. The falsified 2016 DMI P&L
overstated DMI’s income by more than $2 million, which was the amount that Lender B told
MANAFORT he needed to qualify for the loan. When the document was first submitted to Lender
B, a conspirator working at Lender B replied: “Looks Dr’d. Can’t someone just do a clean excel
doc and pdf to me??” A subsequent version was submitted to the bank.

I wonder who the other conspirator is?

cozietoesie · 22/02/2018 22:14

I guess they're known.........Wink

lionheart · 22/02/2018 22:16

Shoes and documents. Smile

I can remember an historian a few years back who researched the history of migration and settlement in the West. His research debunked popular ideas about the part played by guns and even the facts about how many people owned, or could have afforded them. Lots of debate followed this but the researcher did also get death threats from NRA people.

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lionheart · 22/02/2018 22:18

Don't know what this one is about ...

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 22/02/2018 22:19

Ex-Trump Staffer Rick Gates Fires His Lawyer in Russia Probe

Paul Manafort’s long-time deputy has terminated Tom Green, the Washington attorney who reportedly tried to get him a plea deal with Special Counsel Robert Mueller.

www.thedailybeast.com/ex-trump-staffer-rick-gates-fires-his-lawyer-in-russia-probe

Elizabeth de la Vega‏
@Delavegalaw
Here are the issues for Gates & Manafort in terms of cooperation. Their criminal activity is egregious, prolonged & large-scale in terms of $. Even this expanded indictment does not cover all of it. Therefore, they'd have to serve serious prison time even if they cooperate. 1/
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At the same time, if Gates & Manafort do cooperate, they would be cooperating not only against Trump and others in his campaign/administration , but also, Victor Yanukovych and a host of other extraordinarily dangerous oligarchs & strongmen. They are in deep, deep trouble.

Matthew Miller‏Verified account
@matthewamiller
Pretty curious decision by Gates not to take a deal with this on the way and little ability to pay his lawyers. Good time to ask the WH whether there have been any discussions of pardons with him or Manafort.

Elizabeth de la Vega
@Delavegalaw
Respectfully, not a good idea @matthewamiller . Asking the WH about pardons, talking about pardons merely serves to legitimize the idea of pardons.