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To say smoking does look cool?

370 replies

BeachOrPool · 09/02/2018 21:48

Yes, I know inhaling thousands upon thousands of cancerous chemicals definitely isn't cool!

But there's something about some people lighting up a cig and looking into the distance that looks rather cool and 'suave' to me Grin

I always picture having a deep conversation with a mysteriously handsome but dark horse of a person, looking far into the distance as they respond to my dilemma "That's life, Soph" or some other talk that included clever sayings that I can never think to use at the right moment.

It looks cool.

My executive assistant aunty use to look very classy sitting with her legs crossed and smoking a cig, whilst listening to my dilemmas
I just want to put it out there that I've never so much as taken a puff of a ciggy Blush

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SirGawain · 11/02/2018 20:27

This thread really was just light hearted
Then it's a pretty stupid thing to joke about!

wanderings · 11/02/2018 20:37

"I don't discuss unpleasant matters."

To say smoking does look cool?
donners312 · 11/02/2018 20:42

I think it looks common.

Notthesoap · 11/02/2018 20:49

OP do you feel the same way with vapers?

mummyhaschangedhername · 11/02/2018 21:03

Ummmmm ... actually every time I see someone "light up" I think about how vile it looks. I've never understood why people start, I obviously realise why they keep smoking. But no, really don't get it.

Bodicea · 11/02/2018 21:06

Sorry but it just looks common. Not cool at all.

BeHappyMummy · 11/02/2018 21:09

I think people who smoke are idiots. Don't they realise how much they stink?

Not cool at all.

JacintaJones · 11/02/2018 22:03

Ok so everybody thinks it looks common.

What's wrong with being common?

Apparently it just means being working class.
So smoking looks working class, therefore it can't look 'cool.'

Interesting.

Foobarjar · 11/02/2018 22:54

@BeHappyMummy - I'm not an idiot. I do know it stinks. I change, wash my hands, wear perfume etc to cover up when I have smoked. I have given up lots of times, but always end up back smoking unfortunately.

I take offence at you calling me an idiot. I'm intelligent.

They say the most intelligent in society often often end up with addiction issues.

LoniceraJaponica · 11/02/2018 23:14

I think it is because of the smoking ban. People don't sit and relax over a cigarette any more - especially not in winter. Therefore the smokers I do see always look desperate as they hurriedly suck on their fags before escaping the cold and wet to go back indoors.

AstridWhite · 12/02/2018 03:12

I think you are right LJ

I've never found it to look remotely cool but these days it just looks a bit seedy and desperate. Especially when you see people standing at the door of a train or a plane like a greyhound at a trap, with single fag and a lighter in their hand like there's not a second to waste.

And when you see someone really rushing a cigarette, sucking really hard to get as much of it down them in the shortest possible time before having to go back indoors. It's the very antithesis of cool looking.

alotalotalot · 12/02/2018 03:24

It turns me right off a person. It looks the polar opposite to classy. It looks rough.

Whisky2014 · 12/02/2018 07:03

jacinta no one aspires to be common, do they?

LemonShark · 12/02/2018 08:11

Charismam "Cool people (so to speak) rarely smoke though. I sometimes see gangs of rough looking 15 years olds hanging around the chip shop smoking but they look underprivileged, not their fault but it's not associated with coolness or good fortune. Cleaning ladies and granddads with 'sovrittin' rings smoke. Healthy strong people who look like they have it all sewn up rarely smoke."

That was your post. I don't quite believe that you were 'commenting dispassionately' on perceptions of smoking as there's no evidence that's what you were doing in your post at all. Possibly you thought that once you'd been called out for the disgusting classist sneery tone of your post it made more sense to try and pass it off as a wry commentary? But it was just read as nasty by all.

If it was genuinely supposed to be a dispassionate discussion of perceptions then you need to make that clearer. It's unfair to accuse me of making assumptions when I only have what you've written to go off and others thought the same!

Agog at the mentality (mummytoboo) of 'well my kids will have to watch me die of something nasty so why not add lung cancer into the mix'. I'm not one to judge smokers at all (would be hypocritical of me for sure) but that mentality... it's just breathtakingly selfish.

I watched my own mum die of drink, so perhaps I should indulge in a litre of vodka per day because after all, a couple relatives had cancer (like 1/3 of us will) so my kids might as well watch me drink myself to death. Never mind that one is avoidable. Never mind that even with a family history or cancer there's no guarantee you'll get it. Never mind that watching someone you love die from a disease out of their control is a different kettle of fish to watching someone die from something they could have avoided. Never mind the extra time with them you might lose when they need you, by increasing the chance you'll speed up your death by years. Never mind any of that, we've all gotta go someday eh!

If you have kids and smoke, fine, your choice. If you die prematurely from an awful slow moving disease related to smoking and they have to witness it all, they will (probably) cope somehow, as they have no choice.

But admit it's selfish, even if only to yourself. Admit that the cigarettes are more important right now than the potential future risk of dying from something avoidable and leaving your family to grieve. There is more honour in just being bloody honest that you are making that decision than trying to wrap it up in fake 'ah well, gonna die of something' cavalier attitude as if smoking doesn't have any chance of raising your risk of dying from it.

Imagine at your funeral, you died of, say, breast cancer. You didn't smoke. It was unavoidable. A sad tragedy, but your kids know you didn't cause it to happen and wouldn't have chosen to leave them.

Now imagine dying of a smoking induced illness, say lung cancer. And you were a smoker. Grief is much more complicated when you have to grapple with knowing someone chose a habit that would likely kill them, it's not 'not their fault', it's self inflicted. Knowing that the cigarettes were more important to you than being alive for them

wonder if they'll think 'ah well we all have to go someday, may as well be from smoking!'

I just don't understand how anyone can truly hold that mentality you do.

LemonShark · 12/02/2018 08:18

"@gussy of course ur right but like u also said my kids will have to watch me suffer and die anyway, just like I suffered and watched my aunty die of breast cancer when I was 13 and my great grandmother wen I was 17 and her sole carer neither ever smoked, drank, or did drugs ever and yet I still watched them die a long painful death.
x"

This is the post I'm referring to. Just because you had to watch relatives suffer and die means they will have to too. Just the circle of life eh, nowt you can do about it 🤷🏻‍♀️

PS, I hope you've not yet lost your mother. But when you do, you'll realise however difficult it is to lose a grandparent or aunt or cousin, losing your mum for most people is one of the most brutally agonising experiences of all. I wouldn't be so cavalier about your own kids watching you die if you're basing it on your experiences. It won't be the same.

IfNot · 12/02/2018 14:26

the snobbery on here is ignorant and embarrassing.

Yes indeed.

Give up OP.
HOW DARE YOU BE EVEN A TINY BIT LIGHTHEARTED AND WISTFUL ABOUT SMOKING YOU WILL DIE SOMEONE WILL DIE WE WILL ALL DIE!!!

BeHappyMummy · 12/02/2018 14:31

"They say the most intelligent in society often often end up with addiction issues"

Really? Got any evidence for that?

I consider myself intelligent but I don't smoke, or have any addictions for that matter. It's not healthy, end of.

gussyfinknottle · 12/02/2018 14:33

But it's not a lighthearted subject. If you give an addict of any kind the slightest justification for carrying on abusing themselves they will take it. And use it.
This is not a class thing. This is a "smoking is addictive and it kills" thing.

NotCitrus · 12/02/2018 14:53

If smoking wasn't bad for me or those round me, I would smoke, probably even if it was still addictive.

If it wasn't at all addictive, I might have the odd smoke in private or with someone else.

As it is, though, I restrict myself to tobacco-flavoured chocolate and the impressions I get of people in film/TV smoking is it makes cooler ones look cooler up until the 50s, then everyone just looks rather sad, like the teenagers at school who seemed so cool and smoked, but 20 years on shows most were hugely struggling, several with bipolar, several have killed themselves, and all look now at least a decade older and much rougher than I do. I see their teenage equivalents who smoke now and just feel sorry for them.

MuseumOfCurry · 12/02/2018 15:23

"They say the most intelligent in society often often end up with addiction issues"

I was a bit sceptical about this as well.

Nursing a grudge against smoking as a kind of hobby does seem to be a middle-class pastime (guilty), you don't see too much angst about it amongst the lower and upper classes.

SallyLockhartsDog · 12/02/2018 16:10

But it's not a lighthearted subject. If you give an addict of any kind the slightest justification for carrying on abusing themselves they will take it. And use it.
This is not a class thing. This is a "smoking is addictive and it kills" thing.

Definitely posting this on the next wine o clock thread Grin

JacintaJones · 12/02/2018 18:16

No Whisky I quite agree that nobody aspires to be 'common'

But it seems to bother some people more than others.

JacintaJones · 12/02/2018 20:27

Apart from the girl who came from Greece with a thirst for knowledge.

She aspired to be common.

I wonder if she smoked.......

brizzledrizzle · 12/02/2018 21:19

@JacintaJones, can I respectfully suggest that you pulp that idea - nobody really aspires to be common do they?

JustDanceAddict · 12/02/2018 21:20

No, it’s gross.