Are you a feminist? Just a yes or no.

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No need to go further into your reasoning if you don't want to but this has always a been curious issue to me and came up today with one of my colleagues. She is a feminist by how she described her beliefs but doesn't actually adopt the term.

"oh? Who was it?"

I think it's against the rules to show you but it would take 1 minute to find out for yourself.

"Was she staring her feminist view that sharp toenails and a kick are your friend? Or was she being “lighthearted”? "

Ah. I see.

Why did the woman have two black eyes? That isn't the point. Why can't can't she learn her place the first time....

not my humour cup of tea I grant you, but hey, violence can be funny to some so we should let it slide! I guess that this was said "lightheartedly". Or maybe, the replies show how women need to get ahead and assert themselves and if this means sexist comments like "tiny dick" and a little violence then it's all okay.

The fact that you excused those comments as lighthearted shows just how right many are about the hypocrisy and anti-male slant that many feminists have.

lesdeux - I did not excuse the comments, I was trying to get some context around them. But you go ahead with your assumptions- it would take you about 2 seconds of checking my posting history to realise how ridiculous your assertions about me were.

My point was that making something illegal doesn't solve the underlying issue. It simply gives you a tool to deal with people who actively and publicly discriminate.

"Yes. Women / girls outperform their boy/men counterparts at school, at university and in jobs leaving university."

This is your biased interpretation of the current situation.

You think the majority of feminists want to promote men over women. That is indeed your opinion. If you want other people to accept that as reasonable then you might need to justify beyond simple stating that it's the case. Especially in response to many feminists telling you that's not what they believe.

WI versus the Freemasons is no better of a comparison. Do you really think these two groups are the same?

"Was she staring her feminist view that sharp toenails and a kick are your friend? Or was she being “lighthearted”?

See,this is it for me too. How the hell is it lighthearted to joke about attacking a bloke, but not a woman?
Neither's funny.
A man saying "sharp toenails and kick her out of the way?" wouldn't be acceptable to say, there'd be uproar. Not acceptable the other way either.
Even if it was "lighthearted" or "banter."

I put lighthearted in “ “ to indicate I don’t agree it is. I wanted context around the comment.

Yes

Yes

I put lighthearted in “ “ to indicate I don’t agree it is. I wanted context around the comment

You might be lighthearted,but you see it all the time on here. The double standards are amazing.

(Hell) yes

Yup!

No

Yes!

Yes

Yes of course. I believe that men and women are equal but different.

Like a PP, I’m also someone who supports every individual expressing themselves and dressing how the hell they like, provided it doesn’t negatively affect anyone else.

And apparently I’m a TERF, too. Whatever.

Yes.

How the hell is it lighthearted to joke about attacking a bloke, but not a woman

The humour lies in the power imbalance. A man hitting a woman is relatively common, the fear of it is all pervasive, the results could be serious.

A woman hitting a man is infrequent, men ( mostly) are not physically scared or intimidated by women, the result of the 'toenail incident' would be a nasty scratch at worst.

The humour lies in subverting the norm. Is it hilarious? No. It was also, clearly, intended to be lighthearted.

All the faux outrage at the suggestion that a person behaving extraordinarily badly in a swimming pool might get a kick is very entertaining. Incidentally, the poster concerned has never posted on any of the feminist boards. That of course does not mean she’s not a feminist.......

There was a thread recently where many posters were fantasizing about all the things they were Ill wishing on their mothers in law. I hope you were just as outraged about that?

No.

Yes

lesDeuxAlps

My swimming pool post was not about it being unfair a man overtook me ffs. It was about me standing up to an incredibly arrogant person, who happened to be a man, who made himself look like an absolute idiot when I called out his rude behaviour. His sex was not an issue for me though the other women he was bothering didn't say anything, perhaps because he was a man.

I have several usernames and post on feminist boards here but I don't agree with or enjoy discussing trans issues on here so I tend to not want to get involved in those threads.

I dont know who replied with the toenails comment to my thread or whether they are a feminist. I certainly am and will continue to stand up to arrogant pricks who think the world revolves around them, whther they have female or male sex organs, and please stop presenting my thread as some kind of "woman hates man being faster than her in the pool" shit to propel your shit theories. Tia.

I’m afraid getting worked up about tasteless jokes about women belting men in a world where everywhere you lookviolence against women and children is at epidemic levels is the equivalent of complaining about the decor in the state rooms as the titanic slips beneath the waves.
It just makes you look either like a fucking fool, or like someone with an agenda - a pretty sinister one at that.

Unquestionably yes.

It’s the same sort of thing as saying “men are just as objectified as women” and quoting that Diet Coke ad as proof.

Yes

Unfortunately as long as you have people saying 'X' is OK against 'Y' because - insert whatever reason - the problem (in this case violence) will not stop.