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Are you a feminist? Just a yes or no.

999 replies

RedHareWithBlondeHair · 09/02/2018 17:16

No need to go further into your reasoning if you don't want to but this has always a been curious issue to me and came up today with one of my colleagues. She is a feminist by how she described her beliefs but doesn't actually adopt the term.

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HorsesCourses · 10/02/2018 10:08

yes

TwatFacedBitch · 10/02/2018 10:13

Yes change the name feminism.

But you will find the smear campaign and belittling it as silly extreme women's views will follow, because essentially the people who don't like it will do what they did before, and undermine it anyway they can, and why change their approach when it worked so well the first time.

A rose by any other name is still a rose. People who don't like roses will still not like roses.

Beelzebop · 10/02/2018 10:16

Yes

TheDowagerCuntess · 10/02/2018 10:18

It proves a point really, women must not prioritise themselves but must include, take care of and spend their emotional energy on men.

Wifework writ large.

Yes.

mumzuki · 10/02/2018 10:20

Yes.

DingDongDenny · 10/02/2018 10:22

Yes

SuitedandBooted · 10/02/2018 10:25

Yes - now more than ever!

NiteFlights · 10/02/2018 10:26

JustaRandomBloke I'm not sure if you're being disingenuous or just don't understand the multitude of demands placed upon women to cater to men. It's all very nice and lovely to say things should be 'inclusive' and 'people should care for people' but if you think about what you are actually saying, you are asking women to spend less time and energy focusing on issues that affect women, and more time focusing on things that affect men.

It has been expressed by others very clearly, but I'll reiterate - do you ask the RNIB to be more 'inclusive' and put more focus on amputees? Do you think that Age UK just aren't doing enough for babies? Or is it just that you'd like women to be doing even more than we already do, at our own expense, to benefit men?

fantasmasgoria1 · 10/02/2018 10:26

Yes

HesterShaw · 10/02/2018 10:27

Yes.

GodIsDead · 10/02/2018 10:31

Yes

TheDowagerCuntess · 10/02/2018 10:32

And I have to say, in response to some previous posts...

Individual women can choose (and have the right to choose) to get their tits out on Page 3, for example, all they like.

But their individual decision impacts on me (and if I have to spell out why: objectification). So I have an opinion on their decision, whether they like it or not.

Whosamawotsits · 10/02/2018 10:33

No

formerbabe · 10/02/2018 10:38

I'm genuinely flabbergasted by women who'd answer 'no' to this question!

DancingLedge · 10/02/2018 10:38

Yes

n0ne · 10/02/2018 10:44

Yes

FrancinePefko · 10/02/2018 10:45

You're flabbergasted by 85% of women in the UK?

JustARandomBloke · 10/02/2018 10:47

Niteflights, struggling to get to grips with your point.

You say "It has been expressed by others very clearly, but I'll reiterate - do you ask the RNIB to be more 'inclusive' and put more focus on amputees? Do you think that Age UK just aren't doing enough for babies? Or is it just that you'd like women to be doing even more than we already do, at our own expense, to benefit men?"

You are ignoring the simple fact that the current climate sees a good cause undermined by a divisive position. At the moment there are many females on here unwilling to take the feminism label. What does that tell you about the label?

My simple logic is that if the label is a problem that is costing support then you have to pick either the label or the issue as the thing you value most. RNIB don't have that problem.

In really basic terms, explore what causes negative/divisive opinion then distance the good stuff from it.

No woman, husband, brother, son or father should be against any type of equality for women. If they aren't buying into feminism then the problem is feminism as it is perceived.

cellorama · 10/02/2018 10:59

Fuck yeah!

travelforwork · 10/02/2018 11:00

yes

gluteustothemaximus · 10/02/2018 11:01

TheDowager - very well put. That’s exactly it.

CuppaTeaAndAJammieDodger · 10/02/2018 11:01

Hell YES

BertrandRussell · 10/02/2018 11:05

"No woman, husband, brother, son or father should be against any type of equality for women."

Are you sure about that?

wintermonster · 10/02/2018 11:06

Yes

bearlyhere · 10/02/2018 11:07

yes