As far as Nunes can tell, none of us have even met with Trump

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Devin Nunes Gets A Pretty Basic Fact Wrong In Defending His Memo
Nunes suggested that Donald Trump had never met with George Papadopoulos. There's a photo of them sitting at the same table.
www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/devin-nunes-memo_us_5a788b57e4b01fe513a60603

And we certainly didn't have a national security meeting right here:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3150505-The-one-in-which-Trump-orders-his-staff-to-fire-Mueller-and-they-give-him-the-finger?pg=1

It’s a sign of how little I think of them that I find it surprising they’re not wearing maga caps.

Re school student protest - April 20th is 19th (!) anniversary of Columbine shooting.
19 years

Pain totally agree. The students have been so eloquent. I'd like to think we are at a turning point, maybe if it wasn't Trump it would be

Was that a real family in Broward County with the balloons and everyone smiling like it was a bloody celebration? It's just all about Trump and the first responders (ie what he regards as his staff). No words,as far as I can tell, for the families or the victims. He really is a disgrace.

I've also revisited some of the claig threads in light of Mueller indictment. Interesting .... 😊

I think it might possibly work in their favour roussette. In the same way there’s been massive pushback to his sexism, racism, trying to control women’s bodies etc, I think the fact that he’s against gun reform will help to excise this entrenched gop position (and that of the NRA) when he is finally, hopefully, ousted. The momentum sparked by his involvement (a sort of anti Midas touch) might very well be of such an intensity that it is sustained beyond him and actually launches meaningful change.

Think of how much the public now love Obamacare and how hard they fought for it. I hope we can see the same with gun regulations.

The thumbs up is dreadful.

The slight difference I am seeing after this shooting is that more people seem to be realising that their government is not going to just do something to fix this. There seems to be a realisation, particularly from the young, that they are going to have to make the changes happen. They no longer believe their government is there to protect them and instead they have to fight the Government for their lives.

gump have you seen the attempts to sabotage black panther? It’s gone from people trying to down vote it on rotten tomatoes to pretendin they were barred from watching it as they were white and encountered violence when all they wanted to do was harmlessly watch a film. Similar tactics of what the dems were accused of in that post from 2016

www.snopes.com/are-white-people-being-assaulted-at-showing-of-black-panther/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

Pain yes, true. Instead of everything he touches turns to gold, his name is now a hindrance not a help. The fight against him and his party has united everyone to push back.

Gump oh yes on the days of claig. There were so many threads and how right we all are on the outcome of what might well happen.

lawfareblog.com/russian-influence-campaign-whats-latest-mueller-indictment

'The fact that this indictment doesn’t allege misconduct on the American side does not necessarily mean that Mueller lacks evidence to support such an allegation—or that he will not develop it in the future. This indictment deals with a limited subject matter: one aspect of the Russian operation—that involving social media influence measures—undertaken by non-governmental actors. It makes a point of not addressing the conduct of U.S. actors. That is neither inculpatory or vindicating. It is, rather, a deferral of the matter to another day.

What this indictment does, rather, is establish part of the predicate for a later claim of collusion.'

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'The only thing more stunning than the scale of Russian interference uncovered today is the fact that an American President is taking no action to protect our country against an ongoing threat. This is a dereliction of duty.'

All this calling for arming teachers or giving more people in school guns is just so short sighted. I linked this on a different thread once. It shows how having a gun won't necessarily protect you or others. What makes anyone think an ordinary hardworking teacher could pull out a gun and fire on someone intent on a massacre?

:www.thedailybeast.com/mueller-has-interviewed-trump-legal-teams-former-spokesman

Thomas Grove
@tggrove
My story on Yevgeny Prigozhin. Kremlin Caterer Accused in U.S. Election Meddling Has History of Dishing Dark Arts

www.wsj.com/amp/articles/kremlin-caterer-accused-in-u-s-election-meddling-has-history-of-dishing-dark-arts-1518823765?__twitter_impression=true

One detail didn’t make it into the story is Prigozhin’s love of shooting. He used to draw USA flags on mannequins and then shoot them to bits, people say.

Rousette.** Those threads were so frustrating. I drafted a reply in Russian at one point but didn't have the courage to post it. I hope Mueller's findings will encourage investigation into the Brexit debate too, but there seems little appetite for that. I wonder why

Pain I hadn't seen the Black Panther reaction. I did notice the bots were out in force on Twitter last night, though. Ironic.

Meanwhile, Trumps only Press conference a year ago gave us some clues if we needed them

Tonight's #LastThingBeforeWeGo? A look back exactly one year ago at Trump's one and only solo news conference as president where he, among other things, called Russia a "ruse." Watch more: on.msnbc.com/2EzTPQu #11MSNBC twitter.com/11thHour/status/964738734171348992/video/1

Sarah Kendzior
@sarahkendzior
Reminder that by 2014, Russian state media was promoting Trump and Trump was praising Putin on FOX News. I wrote about this in August 2016. (link: www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com/761656/donald-trumps-bromance-with-vladimir-putin-underscores-an-unsettling-truth-about-the-two-leaders/amp/ )

The future Republican presidential nominee concludes by stating the US should give Russia a pass, because: “[The US is] going to win something important later on, and they won’t be opposed to what we’re doing.” Trump never specifies what exactly this future “win” will be, but it’s an interesting comment in the context of his ascendancy to the GOP candidacy.

Charles Gaba
@charles_gaba
Replying to @sarahkendzior
Now that the jig is up, What’s to stop the Russians from flipping the script to “help” Dem candidates to make THEM look bad when the “help” is “discovered”?

Sarah Kendzior
@sarahkendzior
Replying to @charles_gaba
I think it's unlikely Russians will help Dems because Dems vote for sanctions and other policies that restrain the Kremlin.

But I could see Dems winning midterms and Trump admin then deeming win invalid due to "Russian interference". They've been trying this narrative already.

Charles Gaba
@charles_gaba
Right, I didn’t bean actually helping them, I meant doing stuff that SEEMS to help and then letting it slip that they were “helping” near the election to cause the Dems to lose.

The BBC were annoying me this morning claiming that Mueller said there was no evidence of collusion with the Trump campaign. That's not what the indictment was about.

But we live in a world of soundbites so I guess it's too complicated to discuss the detail

Oh god

And the first teacher to mistakenly shoot a pupil thinking they were about to draw a gun? I'm also sensing this might be different though. The Florida kids are smart, savvy and confident. Good luck to them.

Russia and guns and white men and money/profit. Trump's untouchables.

The bbc is not a reliable source of news any more. At least, I take issue with their Brexit coverage, or lack thereof, and their both sides-ism which lends credence to ridiculous positions or ideas.

This is where things start to get thorny when it comes to trump facing legal repercussions. Think how many of these hand picked judges are now in place ready to do his bidding

Trump-appointed judge won't recuse from dossier case

Trevor McFadden says his private-sector legal work and his efforts on Trump transition don't merit stepping aside.

www.politico.com/story/2018/02/16/trump-dossier-judge-recuse-416844

The BBC were annoying me this morning claiming that Mueller said there was no evidence of collusion with the Trump campaign. That's not what the indictment was about.

I'm pretty sure the BBC have been 'captured' - there is no other explanation for their blind pro Brexit, Pro Trump allegiance. It's a big dereliction of journalism. Anyone with a brain listening to Rosenstein and reading the indictment could see how narrowly the indictments had been drawn and how Rosenstein was effectively signalling this.

Oh god

That is one of the most horrific things I've read, Pain

Pain that is awful. What on earth have things come to? If I lived in the States, I would be home schooling (and that's the last thing I would be thinking of doing over here as I am not a patient person)

I used to avoid claig-heavy threads like the plaig: he/she/it was exhausting .

But that particular poster you quote, Gump – yeah, they stood out to me like a sore thumb.

Personal faves: the thread where that one was working very hard and repetitively to push a "Hillary is pro-rape" line... and the Trump "pussy" tapes came out and suddenly they went very, very quiet, then after a long silence tried to chat about shaving her legs...

And the thread where they were asking for real life feminist groups to get involved in. They made a divisive comment about the groups, and then found one with a variety of upcoming talks – and leapt on the talk about "feminism in Catholicism & Islam". And I thought, "Funny how, as I was reading through this thread, I knew it would be that talk you were interested in, not the one about childcare [or whatever, sorry can only remember it didn't give the obvious sort of mileage].

They disappeared the day after the US election.

Although I think they may be back with a modified name and a less energetic tone for now.

I too have shouted at the BBC.