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To not understand Masonic lodges

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Bearbehind · 04/02/2018 20:50

Just been talking to a friends who's husband is a head honcho mason.

He's called the Grand Master or something equally ridiculous.

Apparently throughout a masons 'career' they get to fill in certain blanks in the book and only at the top level do you get to fill in all the blanks.

AIBU to think WTAF?

What is the point in this seemingly childish behaviour in grown men?

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Clandestino · 05/02/2018 21:05

Most of us manage without following a weird cult where information is only divulged at certain levels.

True. I once asked a Catholic priest a factual question on the miracles Jesus performed. I was told it was one of the great mysteries only a true believer would understand.

SmiledWithTheRisingSun · 05/02/2018 21:06

🤣 at head honcho mason 🤣

ParkheadParadise · 05/02/2018 21:09

There is another thread on here about Masons. Never knew they were so popular 😂😂😂

Yvest · 05/02/2018 21:12

Nobody understands Masonic lodges. They’re a mystery on par with finding out what happens to socks in a washing machine

GrapesAreMyJam · 05/02/2018 21:22

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PancakeInMaBelly · 05/02/2018 21:27

No grapes, what happened in the Catholic church was not about a few bad eggs (and was in no way confined to the 70s or even the past at all)

People who are masons may be nice to you individually. But the Masons are not a harmless individuals.

PancakeInMaBelly · 05/02/2018 21:28

" ....harmless institution"

Julie8008 · 05/02/2018 21:28

So we have a mans club where they like to get drunk, raise money for charity and ogle girls, which is now disbanded.

We have a mans club where they like to get drunk, raise money for charity and NOT ogle girls, which is now being called weird and sounds like it should be disbanded.

Should men be allowed to have a club where they go out occasionally with friends? Or maybe they should spend a few decades chained to the kitchen sink?

PancakeInMaBelly · 05/02/2018 21:30

Oh FGS there are plenty of places men can go that aren't the Masons eyeroll

Julie8008 · 05/02/2018 21:34

Oh FGS there are plenty of places men can go that aren't the Masons eyeroll

Yes they could go to a working mans club. Does it matter what its called?

GrapesAreMyJam · 05/02/2018 21:36

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Primarkismyonlyoption · 05/02/2018 21:37

I think pancake has a point. I had a conversation with a man recently and said I couldn't cope with a husband who played an xbox-joking. He got quite pissed off and said what would i rather t
He did? Go to the pub wasting money and going home pissed? He had a point and really changed my thinking.

PancakeInMaBelly · 05/02/2018 21:38

Yes they could go to a working mans club. Does it matter what its called?

You tell me? If it's all just men havin' a bit of man time and name/organisation doesn't matter then you wouldn't mind whether your DH joined the Rotary or Britain first?

PancakeInMaBelly · 05/02/2018 21:40

"There are good and bad people in all organisations"

And there are some ORGANISTIONS that knowingly protect and even promote the bad ones and cause further problems and traumas for their victims

GrapesAreMyJam · 05/02/2018 21:41

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PancakeInMaBelly · 05/02/2018 21:42

"So if the catholic priest scandals was not about a few bad eggs, what was it about?"

INSTITUTIONAL abuse. INSTITUTIONAL atrocities.
Mass graves aren't a one man job

It's been quite well publicised, if you're AT ALL interested in actually finding out why the problem was NOT a few bad eggs!!!

GrapesAreMyJam · 05/02/2018 21:45

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IvorHughJarrs · 05/02/2018 22:01

I think the days of corruption that allows people to get off with murder are gone (thank heavens) and doubt the Masons had any more sway than those with money or power. It is now, as others have said, just a social group who raise a huge amount for charity. My uncle has been a Mason for years and has held some high positions but knows nothing of filling in blanks or corruption, he says it is more likely to damage your prospects as people are suspicious of it nowadays despite the huge amounts they raise for charities

It seems to have been not mentioned here in all the conspiracy theories that the Masons were persecuted by the Nazis for being too liberal see here

Hoardinghobbit · 05/02/2018 22:05

English Masonry is a different organisation to Scottish Masonry. There were anti clerical (not anti religious) feelings in the original 18th Century Lodges but in the case of English Masonry now, it is the Catholic Church that is anti Masonic not vice versa - all faiths are welcome. I have encountered idiotic, misanthropic, sexist and racist members of golf clubs; similar yoga teachers and a host of unpleasant clerics and ministers of all faiths. I always presumed this was largely unconnected to the various, private rituals which adherents of these activities practise. The fact that the statement regarding the baring of a chest being in order to prove one isn't a women was universally accepted as fact is revealing as to PPs willingness to believe anything that confirms their bias. That one 'fact' is categorically untrue and only takes a minute of research to find out. I'm not a Mason (obviously), just dislike prejudice in all its forms.

Julie8008 · 05/02/2018 22:31

If it's all just men havin' a bit of man time and name/organisation doesn't matter then you wouldn't mind whether your DH joined the Rotary or Britain first?

Easy to jump to extremes... I know what my DP is like so why should I worry what he calls his nights out, I like my girls only nights out. If he started calling himself a KKK I would worry but why should I worry about a dodgy handshake or a pulled up sock? Evidence!

martellandginger · 05/02/2018 22:34

They do bits for charity but really they’re a group of people often business leaders or otherwise lawyer accountants etc and they help each other out within business. You might recommend someone within the lodge to for a job for example.

You have to have a well paid job to be invited as you’re expected to pay your way in.

Hoardinghobbit · 05/02/2018 22:43

martell again, simply not true. The only compulsory monies are membership fees (like any private club) and a compulsory charitable donation, supposedly linked to ones capacity to pay. The MN forum abounds with people giving advice to fellow members or relating tales of women helping out friends with business interests. My husband knows Masons who are as poor as church mice and some who are millionaires - they don't help each other out in nefarious ways, it is actually forbidden to try and gain pecuniary advantage through membership.

GrapesAreMyJam · 05/02/2018 22:44

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Primarkismyonlyoption · 05/02/2018 22:52

They advertised through billboards for liverpool graduates