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To think 6 year olds should not be wearing this

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welliments · 01/02/2018 17:57

Merchandise from a major dance show at the excel centre in London next month. They sell these, and tshirts from age 6 up.

I’m going to have to explain to a 10 year old why she can’t have a jumper...

To think 6 year olds should not be wearing this
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MumsTheWordYouKnow · 02/02/2018 21:07

Seriously, no it is not that kind of it unless you’re a teenager Hmm. Wondered what the problem was as couldn’t see it, the it refers to what ever sport or activity like the Nike advert.

NataliaOsipova · 02/02/2018 21:19

Seriously, no it is not that kind of it unless you’re a teenager hmm.

Or over, about, say, 40.....? When it's clearly a reference to a "hilarious" joke of old.

Wondered what the problem was as couldn’t see it, the it refers to what ever sport or activity

Grammatically, it doesn't.

welliments · 02/02/2018 21:23

shortandannoying
mumsthewordyouknow

Have you read the whole thread?

If not, read it. Then if you would still feel comfortable letting your child wear it, come back and let us know.

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Gabilan · 02/02/2018 21:24

No one would do that with some random slogan on a child's clothes. That would be different to a well known joke

Ok, once more, with feeling. This is not a random slogan. It is a well known joke.

And sausages are almost always funny and laden with innuendo. They're a piece of meat shaped like a phallus. Can't be anything other than funny.

FaveNumberIs2 · 02/02/2018 21:30

@Shimmershimmerandshine

Ok, I'll be more specific.

As a writer, these jokes have always engaged with my love of words and phrases before anything to do with sex has entered my mind (and believe me, ask anyone I work with, I'm the queen of double entendres) so don't assume that 100% of people who see this jumper, are automatically going to giggle at a child wearing a jumper with a sexualised slogan on it.

NataliaOsipova · 02/02/2018 21:32

"Knock, knock"
"What?"
"You have to say "who's there?""
"Why would I say, "who's there?""
"Because that's the joke"
"Why is that funny?"
"Well, I suppose it isn't that funny really, but it's a very well known format for a joke that everyone - well, you know - just understands."
"But why would they understand that from your just saying that they were knocking?"
"Well, it's so well known.....that...they just would...."

Ad inf.

Jojofjo44 · 02/02/2018 21:33

The only problem with the logo is your perception of it. Dancers dance with attitude is a perfectly innocent perception. Your perception, your child will only learn if you tell them.

welliments · 02/02/2018 21:34

Favenumberis2

I don’t think anyone has said that 100% of people who see this jumper would giggle at it.

However, a number of people here, at least 50% would think it was in bad taste.

I don’t understand the relevance of you being a writer here?

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FaveNumberIs2 · 02/02/2018 21:35

@Gabilan

Question for you. If you equate the Nike slogan "just do it" with sex, and are not happy with kids wearing sexualised slogans, then am I to understand that your children have never worn Nike products?

Talking if which, I bought my 15 year old a pair of Nike Silver Bullet trainers for Christmas. Should I have chosen differently because if the connection to guns?

FaveNumberIs2 · 02/02/2018 21:36

@welliments because that slogan doesn't automatically say "sex" to me.

And I was answering someone else.

FaveNumberIs2 · 02/02/2018 21:38

@welliments also, regardless of the percentage of naysayers verses goaheaders, the decisions of what you allow your child to wear, is totally up to you.

Sparklyhousedust · 02/02/2018 21:40

I wouldn’t let a child wear that, definitely a sex joke if not particularly offensive in any other context

NataliaOsipova · 02/02/2018 21:42

the decisions of what you allow your child to wear, is totally up to you.

Absolutely. And the decision that people make to judge you for allowing your child to wear that is completely up to them. And people can decide to snigger - or not, as they see fit - at your child's clothing. And the 0.0000001% of the population who do get some kind of sexual kick from children can decide if that's something that gives them a kick or not. All anybody is doing - if I'm right from my reading of this thread - is soliciting opinion as to whether others would agree that that is an inappropriate slogan to be emblazoned across the chest of a six year old.

Gabilan · 02/02/2018 21:48

Question for you. If you equate the Nike slogan "just do it" with sex, and are not happy with kids wearing sexualised slogans, then am I to understand that your children have never worn Nike products?

I don't think the Nike slogan is sexual. "Just do it" in that context could be any number of things. In a sporting context it's quite likely to mean "go for it" e.g. train hard, aim for victory, push yourself to your next goal.

I don't have children. I would think it odd that someone dressed their child in something as obviously sexualised as the "[this group] do it [in this way]" slogan. As to whether or not one then boycotts anything else that company makes, I think that's entirely personal choice. It's very, very difficult to be an entirely ethical consumer.

NotBadConsidering · 02/02/2018 21:49

because that slogan doesn't automatically say "sex" to me.

It doesn't matter if it says "sex" to you or not. What matters is if you accept it says "sex" to other people. Enough people on this thread read that as a sexual thing, a double entendre. So do you accept it is could commonly be interpreted that way? If you do, is it appropriate to sexualise a clothing item for a 6 year old girl?

Flippertigibbet · 02/02/2018 22:04

Jeeeez it's a sweatshirt she'll grow out of in a matter of weeks (as all DC tend to do as soon as you buy them new/bigger/baggy clothing!)...
#chillout
#live&letlivewithdifferingopinions

CandyYumYum · 02/02/2018 22:06

Deep, babe. Really deep.

SheGotBetteDavisEyes · 02/02/2018 22:12

Guys, guys. You're overreacting. It's a sweater that jokes about sex. The kid won't get the joke. Even some adults won't. A lot will, but God. It's just a lame smutty joke on a 6 year old's sweater.

It's not like we live in a society that's saturated with the objectification of women and we need to be tuned into how it starts and where it starts and call it out Every. Single. Time. for the sake our children. Nor, frankly, is there any issue to be addressed concerning the insidious sexualisation of children at younger and younger ages.

Oh hang on.

IMightMentionGriddlebone · 02/02/2018 22:15

Quick poll. All those who wouldn't see any problem with that sweatshirt because it's not something they'd think of when they read it?

Would you be also okay with buying your child a sweatshirt with a cute image and a slogan in German/French/Spanish/[insert any other language you and your child don't speak], if someone told you it was a sexual slogan?

Would you be comfortable with your child wearing a sexual German/French/Spanish slogan she didn't understand while on holiday in Germany/France/Spain? She might not understand the slogan. You might not. But everyone looking at her would, wouldn't they?

FaveNumberIs2 · 02/02/2018 22:24

@NataliaOsipova

And my opinion, is that I would have no problem seeing a dancer of any age wearing that top. And I would not judge anyone wearing it or not wearing it.

NataliaOsipova · 02/02/2018 22:30

FaveNumberis2. Fair enough. Up to you. I wouldn't, because (even if I didn't see the double entendre for myself), I wouldn't want my child unknowingly to be giving out a message that she either didn't understand or wasn't wholly comfortable to give.

FaveNumberIs2 · 02/02/2018 22:30

@NotBadConsidering

As the op said, about 50% of people on this thread see it as sexualised and 50% don't.

So if I have to accept that "some" see it as a problem, then they in turn, need to accept that "some" don't see it as a problem.

ButterflyOnTheWindow · 02/02/2018 22:30

lottiegarbanzo

Re your childhood road crossing outrage. And your consequent thoughts about walking out in front of a car to teach them a lesson because then they'd be sorry and it would be their fault if you got dead. Like, that'll teach the bastards! Right?

We used to call that 'cutting off your nose to spite your face'
It's childish and immature, and we forgive children for being that.

It's uncomfortable viewing when adults do it.

NataliaOsipova · 02/02/2018 22:32

.....argh - sorry - missed out the crucial part of that! Meant to ask if you'd be happy to see your child wearing it? I wouldn't, because (even if I didn't see the double entendre for myself), I wouldn't want my child unknowingly to be giving out a message that she either didn't understand or wasn't wholly comfortable to give.

Can't type tonight.....Blush

welliments · 02/02/2018 22:32

Would you let your daughter wear it favenumberis2?

Knowing what at least 50% of people on here would read into it?

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