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To think 6 year olds should not be wearing this

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welliments · 01/02/2018 17:57

Merchandise from a major dance show at the excel centre in London next month. They sell these, and tshirts from age 6 up.

I’m going to have to explain to a 10 year old why she can’t have a jumper...

To think 6 year olds should not be wearing this
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DreamyMcDreamy · 01/02/2018 23:31

welliments is give up if I were you, can’t educate pork.

Oh here we go with the insults. Completely invalidates your argument when you have to resort to them.
People are allowed to disagree with you, it does not make them thick for holding a different viewpoint. Hmm

DreamyMcDreamy · 01/02/2018 23:32

Your argument is completely hypocritical welliments and you know it. Which is why you tried to pretend there was no double entendre in pantomimes that are aimed specifically at children.

Exactly!

Slanetylor · 01/02/2018 23:33

Would people really let their little girls wear a jumper with a sex joke on it just because they don't " get" the joke so it's therefore ok.
It's clearly a sex joke. It's meant to be a sex joke. Many many people will know it's a sex joke. ( although less than I would have thought reasonable). Geologists do it until the bed rocks. Or dancers do it with attitude. It's the same joke.

"Dance with attitude" isn't what the jumper says because that's not what the jumper was meant to say.

BlueMirror · 01/02/2018 23:34

If people want to get in a lather about it that's up to them.
I've never seen anyone wear this jumper but I've seen countless children wearing 'Just do it' Nike t-shirts and I'd someone said to me 'Look! That child is telling me to have sex! Look at their t-shirt' I'd think they were, frankly, insane.

Panting · 01/02/2018 23:34

Haven’t RTFT, but speaking as the world’s biggest prude, I don’t see the problem.

Obvs “X does it with ...” was a 1970s double entendre (remember all those hilarious car stickers 🙄) but nowadays it’s so passé as to be meaningless.

I find slogans on children’s clothes very naff but that’s another matter.

Ellle · 01/02/2018 23:35

Using the coconuts example, if there was a picture of two cute coconut characters on the jumper and the slogan said "I have a nice pair of coconuts". The children would only see the literal meaning, but it would be inappropriate to let a little girl wear that.
That's how I understand it.

BlueMirror · 01/02/2018 23:37

I have a nice pair of coconuts isn't something that would ever be a normal sentence not in the context of tits though is it?

welliments · 01/02/2018 23:38

Ok, last time.

Of course there is innuendo in pantomime
Of course there are children there
Panto DOES NOT talk about children having sex
Children are the AUDIENCE

Dancers do it with attitude is an innuendo/double entendre (delete as applicable)
Worn by a child it insinuates to those who are aware of the innuendo that the CHILD has sex with attitude.
CHILDREN ARE THE SUBJECT

If you still don’t get it then I’m sorry, I don’t know how else to help you understand and we’ll just have to agree that we see the world differently...

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Mxyzptlk · 01/02/2018 23:41

DH wore his duffer of st George jumper all round India

I'd never heard of Duffer of St George. Those clothes are ridiculous!

Mxyzptlk · 01/02/2018 23:42

I agree with you, Welliments.

BlueMirror · 01/02/2018 23:43

So talking about sex acts BETWEEN ADULTS in front of children is ok with you then? See I think all sexualised material involving adults or children would be unsuitable for children.
And I'm glad that you now accept there is innuendo in pantomimes as you were apparently blissfully ignorant when I first mentioned it.

BlueMirror · 01/02/2018 23:44

And you don't need to help anyone understand. People understand the hypocritical argument you are making perfectly. They just disagree with you.

Mummyontherun86 · 01/02/2018 23:44

I agree OP. I wouldn’t buy it for my child. It’s fairly ‘light’ compared to some but it nonetheless is implying that a) your child is a dancer b) dancers have sex with attitude c) ego your child has sex with attitude.

I’m surprised but how naive some people are about it to be honest.

Slanetylor · 01/02/2018 23:45

So people don't like Panomines now but sex jokes on children's clothes is good? I missed some posts.

Ellle · 01/02/2018 23:46

I have a nice pair of coconuts isn't something that would ever be a normal sentence not in the context of tits though is it?

For you (and most adults) it can never be a "normal" sentence because that word has an associated meaning that you cannot unsee.
I doubt if I ask my son (5) if he knows what coconut means and whether it has any other meaning he would tell me it means tits. An adult that has only just started to learn English, might not know that coconut also means tits. But just because they don't know it and cannot see it yet, doesn't mean that that phrase on a child's top would be appropriate, as the rest of the adults would immediately know it.

DreamyMcDreamy · 01/02/2018 23:47

a) your child is a dancer b) dancers have sex with attitude c) ego your child has sex with attitude

No,it really doesn't. You obviously link it to children having sex with attitude.
I honestly really don't, but evidently some people do jump straight there!

IMightMentionGriddlebone · 01/02/2018 23:49

There is, in my opinion, a difference between children being in the vicinity of double entendres, and walking round as a billboard for them. I wouldn't want my child to wear insinuating statements about her sex life on her chest.

I think that's quite different from wanting to stop her ever hearing other people making such statements about their own. Although that said, I wouldn't sit my ten year old down in front of a Carry On film, actually. Carry On films are a better comparison than the pantomime, at least the pantos I've seen.

IMightMentionGriddlebone · 01/02/2018 23:49

*my six year old

welliments · 01/02/2018 23:52

bluemirror

Woah!

Can you point out to me where I was blissfully ignorant of innuendo in pantomimes?

Also, you call me a hypocrite yet say I think all sexualised material involving adults or children would be unsuitable for children

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SheGotBetteDavisEyes · 01/02/2018 23:59

Welliments, you are right and have tried to explain it all brilliantly.

No,it really doesn't. You obviously link it to children having sex with attitude. I honestly really don't, but evidently some people do jump straight there

And knowing that some people do makes many people think that it's inappropriate clothing for kids.

SheGotBetteDavisEyes · 01/02/2018 23:59

bold fail

DreamyMcDreamy · 02/02/2018 00:03

It must be exhausting being so offended all the time.

AnnieAnoniMouse · 02/02/2018 00:06

welliments. Clearly many MNers are too young to get the slogan —and seem to be wilfully ignoring the fact that many others will think the same as we did. It’s OK not to know, but it’s pretty ridiculous to try to argue against it being so. You can’t argue with stupid, so I’d give up if I were you! Let them put their kid in a very sexualised hoodie if they want to be obtuse.

No way would I let a child wear this.

I’d have no problem explaining why not though, we have lots of interesting conversations 🙄😖😂

vapourtrail · 02/02/2018 00:06

I didn't see anything wrong with it either, but reading the posts I see where you are coming from. It is like the Frankie Goes to Hollywood song with the lyrics "Relax don't do it..." that I always thought was about sucking a chewit or about needing to do a wee, and I now realise was about something else entirely.

HoofWankingSpangleCunt · 02/02/2018 00:07

That joke is one of my favourites deafening
The Holiday Inn logo upthread reminded me of staying in Holiday Inns as a child in the late seventies/early eighties .Holiday Inn had a kids' club complete with sweets and t shirts to be worn when attending club. The shirts had printed on them "I'm yours for the weekend" They dont have them anymore, for some reason.
Op, you are right. Ignore the argumentative eejits.