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AIBU?

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AIBU or is my mother acting like a child?

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Enigmasaurus · 31/01/2018 21:08

Long story so apologise for length.

I am the second of four siblings, my parents are divorced but on reasonably good terms now.

My mother has always been a difficult personality, and often has a little strop if things don’t go her way. There are a couple of occasions I recall where she has stopped talking to me or ignored me for a few days or weeks. Usually because I’ve done something she disagrees with or ‘disobeyed’ her. When she starts communicating again, it’s when she wants to (on her terms).

My maternal grandmother has been unwell recently and there have been lots of disagreements between my mother and her brother (my uncle) about how best to manage her. There have been many heated arguments and some unpleasant things said on both sides, culminating in them being NC for around 6 months now.

I am in my late thirties, married with 3 kids and live independently from my mother and siblings (and am financially stable). Due to her argument with her brother, my mother forbade any of us children from speaking to him, his wife or his children (my cousins). For various reasons I have had to have some contact but it’s been limited and she has been aware of it. Can’t say she was very happy.

A few weeks ago, he contacted me to say he had Christmas presents for my children. I suggested he drop them round. He came with the family (first contact for 6 months) and a lovely time was had by all. Somehow, my mother found out about this. She called me but didn’t ask me about it directly. Instead, she was more sullen during the conversation and spent most of the call interrogating my 4 year old, trying to get him to reveal some incriminating evidence.

Since that day she hasn’t spoken to me at all. Will not return messages or take calls. I have had the same treatment from my siblings and wider family. It makes me really sad as it’s DC2’s birthday tomorrow and I’ve had to cancel my original plans for a celebration as there wont be enough people. We’re having a small party at home instead.

I’m pretty sure this is not normal behaviour from a woman who is in her 60s, but having grwon up with it sort of skews your normality somewhat. Right now I have given up trying to make contact, told her she know where I am if she actually wants to talk and that I feel it’s really sad that she is taking this out on my child. I am flitting between feeling really sad and really quite angry. If she calls tomorrow to speak to my child I will not be answering the call. Does that make me as bad as her? My husband would happily cut her out completely over this but I feel a bit torn. Don’t really know what to do next.

Apologies for incoherent ramblings and thank you if you’ve read until the end.

OP posts:
TheDailyMailLovesTheEUReally · 08/02/2018 17:37

You're worried about taking the kids' Grandma away from them.

This would be the Grandma who thinks it's more important to be 'right' and come out on top, than swallow her pride and attend her GS's birthday party.

What exactly do you think that says about how much she loves and prioritises the relationship with her GC? And why would you want to maintain a relationship with a woman who is so determined to prove her point that she'll stoop so low as to interrogate a small child?

Enigmasaurus · 09/02/2018 21:03

Jamie your assumptions about my siblings are correct. They don’t have the backbone to stand up to her. They are also dependent on her in a way that I am not (for financial support, a home) and I think therefore perhaps a little worried about the impact of a NC outcome on themselves. Even if they agreed with my stance I’m not sure they’d be in a position to take the same one. Which is sad really.

TheDM your post made me cry. For me it is absolutely all about her interaction with my DS. Taking out an argument on a child is just unforgivable. Thankfully he’s small enough to not really notice, but it really upsets me that his birthday was effectively ruined Sad

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fireflame · 09/02/2018 22:31

Your mother is totally out of order
But...... my mother is just the same
Makes me so sad and I am in my 50's and have shed so many tears to how cruel my mother has been all my life 😢
I have tried with her so many times and keep taking her abuse!
Yes I know it needs to stop ✋😡

OutyMcOutface · 09/02/2018 22:43

Your mother sounds insane. YWNBU to complete cut her off.

Lemons1571 · 09/02/2018 23:15

—I’m not supposed to have the ability to formulate a different opinion and even if I do the expectation is that I would do what she says. Otherwise I am not ‘supporting’ her—

My mother was like this too. She fell out with my grandmother and I had to go NC with grandmother and all associated family otherwise I “wasn’t supporting her”. Apparently she read a child rearing book in the 70’s that said children are an extension of you, I remember her saying it. She died before my kids got old enough to be affected and im relieved I never had to do the nc bit (she was a big fan of silent treatment followed by a sudden illness, and sending out flying monkeys too). I understand your pain and frustration x

TheDailyMailLovesTheEUReally · 10/02/2018 07:24

Lovey I am not deliberately trying to make you feel bad.

You feel strongly that you don't want to "take away" the kids' Granny, because you want them to have a relationship with her. On the face of it that sounds perfectly reasonable. But what I am attempting to do is to help you see that the relationship you are trying to protect, doesn't exist.

You're hoping that one day, magically, she'll change, and that the relationship with the GC will be enough for her to realise that she needs to behave differently. I suspect that if you have a cold, hard look at things though, you'll admit that the likelihood of this ever happening is slim to none. Leopards do not change their spots overnight.

You're kicking against this now because it's affecting your kids; this is so, so common. People will put up with all sorts of shitty behaviour directed at them personally, but suddenly find they aren't so willing to turn a blind eye to it when it starts being aimed at their children.

I don't know whether you have heard of the FOG or not? Fear, Obligation, Guilt - and it's what governs most toxic relationships and most commonly dysfunctional parent/child ones. You have a fear of upsetting her - so the behaviour goes unchallenged. You feel obliged to keep seeing her - because she's your Mum and it's family and what's more important than that? You feel guilty if you do challenge her behaviour - because she cuts you off and will involve other family members in the 'punishment', or send them in as 'flying monkeys' (e.g.
"You've really upset Mum and you need to apologise").

Have a look at the Stately Homes threads on here - I'll wander off in a mo and see if I can find the most recent to link for you. They are full of posters in similar situations and who can offer advice and coping strategies including if you decide to go low contact or now contact.

TheDailyMailLovesTheEUReally · 10/02/2018 07:30

Current Stately Home thread here

Good luck - and remember that you are in charge of who you form relationships with, and that includes family. A blood tie does not guarantee that someone is nice or fair or kind, and there is no law that says you have to carry on seeing someone just because you are related to them. I do have some experience here - I have some family members that I am completely NC with and one other that is LC only. I won't lie - the first year was very hard, mainly because I was still in the FOG and also multiple flying monkeys were contacting me 24/7 to tell me what a selfish and awful person I was for not wanting to carry on being involved.

That was over a decade ago and after that first year life has been much more peaceful and I have been way happier as a result!

WhiteWalkersWife · 10/02/2018 08:18

She sounds like a toxic shit. She woukd purposefully hurt her grandchild to hurt her child. What does she bring to your life? Even if you were 'forgiven' in her eyes you would be walking on eggshells until the next time. The next time your dc may realise.

LavenderDoll · 10/02/2018 09:18

Sounds similar to my family dynamic.
DM has the ability to turn me into a jealous self loathing child again.
She plays my siblings off against me and against each other

It's hard isn't it
I always think that I'm going to go NC and for the brief period I manage it my brain hurts less and I'm happier but she always worms back in and it starts all over again

Her new favourite is to get siblings to go on fun outings with her and lie to me so I don't know they are going. Then drop it into conversation a week or so later. I query the lie. She tells me they have to lie as I'm so highly strung.. I ask why I couldn't have an invite and I'm told because of the way I am and uses my reaction to the lie as justification

Sorry I've taken over the thread with my ranting
Your mum sounds toxic I sympathise

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