regeneration or social cleansing?!

[HelenaDove]

morningstaronline.co.uk/article/ex-miners-face-eviction-to-make-way-for-luxury-flats

Is that in response to me? It doesn’t say anything we don’t know. They won’t pay for the bnb or storage

Oh and btw there is no way, I can promise you, that that’s their plan. It’s jusy hearsay. They won’t even have a plan yet

I think if you move in with your parent before they die you can take on the tenancy? That’s what someone I know plans to do. It’s a HA 3 bed flat with a lovely garden, must be worth at least £700k on the market as it’s in a proper hipster area of London. Her mum’s been there decades.

The residents have been gossiping and not basing their opinions on fact. She said the residents fear... scaremongering

Nope not likely with a HA, especially not in London. Council house, possibly

I'll tell you what they'll do. They'll do what they did when they regenerated another estate nearby. They'll empty them into the new build estate in the posh bit of town, regenerate the shithole, the residents will refuse to return because they like the new posh area and so 2 areas of deprivation are created not one.

The crime rate in the part of town they were relocated to increased significantly the HA homes resemble the ones they came from...theyve turned the area into a sink estate which is remarkable given they were moved into new builds.

But then you end up with people like Bob Crow - great big salary and keeping a cheap secure tenancy. That can't be right

It’s fucking disgusting that people like him get to live in council houses while so many families live in uncertain circumstances.

Unfortunately the relocation while the new flats are being built probably will be chaotic and unsuitable (wholly or partially). Instability in itself is very unsettling.

The answer is to built tonnes of new houses, social and private, all round the country. But that would tank values and rents so it will be much resisted by MPs. I think I’m right in saying there are plenty of private landlords among Labour MPs as well as Tory.

Should have used some past tense there as I realise Bob Crow is dead. But I meant others like him

HelenaDove

Genesis Housing Association is considering the future of Alexandra Court in Southend, which could see it torn down and a new block built in its place with double the number of flats.

Isn't there an enormous need for new social housing units? These plans will double the existing number of flats, but the current tenants are standing in the way because they don't want the inconvenience? WTF!

its not the current tenants fault that there is a lack of social housing That is down to RTB and ppl who dont believe in social housing voting a certain way.

Yet its always tenants who have to pay the price.

I wonder how many of those units are going to be adaptable housing. I had a housing officer say to me last year that there simply isnt any.

This was done in lot's of flats in Dublin through the boom.

All the residents ended up back in the area in brand new apartments and houses.

It was regeneration, most of the old blocks of flats are really fancy apartments and townhouses now. Well the ones visitors from the EU pass

Helena you do love a bit of projectioning don't you. They are regenerating the area, permitting the tenants to return to brand new properties and doubling the amount of homes in the area.

Surely the most lefty of lefties can see that's a positive thing. Apart from you.

I would imagine a fair number and if not the tenants can apply to have their housing adapted. However housing associations do not have to do major wet room adaptations into family home. I would expect that genesis know their tenants issues and will ensure adequate properties are built to house them.

genesisresidents.org.uk/organisation/regeneration-project-in-southend/

It's hardly social cleansing - that block of flats in Southend isn't in a particularly "nice" part of town that yuppies are clamouring for. This is objective: it's in the 514th most deprived neighbourhood out of 32000 in England. It's by a train station, yes, but it's the slower, crappier line into London so it's much less popular - it has half the usage of Southend Central. Southend needs more social housing because it has big problems with social deprivation.

Helena can I recommend you take a visit to Southend and this part in particular then report back your findings.

I would guess they had plans for regeneration which accounts for them not spending huge sums of money on repairs. The longer the residents stall the move the more dilapidated the properties will become.

Essex is the largest county in terms of population and it's increasing rapidly due to London overspill. Places like Southend are bearing the brunt of this. London boroughs are paying Essex councils to take people from their housing lists - which is why Jaywick is how it is - and the county is broke (although Southend is a unitary council and self funds). If a company is prepared to regenerate somewhere bloody well let them!!

I'm sure if they went to Jaywick and built a nice load of flats for them they wouldn't complain like this.

"I would guess they had plans for regeneration which accounts for them not spending huge sums of money on repairs. The longer the residents stall the move the more dilapidated the properties will become" .

its not the current tenants fault that there is a lack of social housing That is down to RTB and ppl who dont believe in social housing voting a certain way.

Absolutely!

Invest in social housing stock.

Thatcher's terrible legacy continues.

I knew who started this before I even opened it.

Me too.
A storm in a teacup. Being rehomed for 18 months to then return to brand new homes, yeah, shocking that. So they still have a ‘home for life’. Not a bad deal at all.

It just reinforces for me the attitude of a lot of Brits that the state must take care of me.

There are some in geniune need of being taken care of but in my "up and coming" part of London there are just lots who got lucky to get a council house and the amount of expensive cars parked out the front is truly

"It's always the tenants tax payers who have to pay the price" - fixed that for you!

Every HA/ council has is obsessive tenants, who pore over every bit of news misinterpreting, misunderstanding and twisting it. Who become obsessed with landlords/ their landlord and their activities. Who see everything through them and us without anything productive being achieved through their campaigns.

HAs/ councils are experts at shifting these tenants from the true complaints and responding accordingly. Unfortunately sometimes this goes wrong. Once in a lifetime this contributes to a Grenfell.

If you want to challenge your landlord do it properly. With substance behind it. Don’t constantly post nothing news stories about HAs with invisible victims

Many will be both though, tenants and tax payers.

That's not to say that I think the regeneration is a bad thing.

Lots of HOMEOWNERS are regenerated. You could be a leaseholder in one of those blocks and you’d get exactly the same treatment. Out and move back. Or the HA will buy the flat from you before they start (preferable since it’ll double in value )