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Thus weeks Silent Witness, aibu or was it a poorly written sack of shit tonight?

123 replies

flirtygirl · 30/01/2018 22:33

Aibu to never watch it again? How can that many people be so stupid?

They can all see the boy Jack reacted to the police man because of his learning difficulties but they send cops with guns???
You can see the lead detective has a chip on his shoulder, he is rude, brusque and lacking in empathy, jumps to conclusions and again noone else does anything.

Tilly the carer can see the girl has been raped and does nothing??
I have watched silent witness since it began, aibu or maybe im oversensitive raising a dd with asd but wtf??

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Devilishpyjamas · 31/01/2018 23:54

Your parents sound perfectly able to decide where they want to be! It’s like the MCA never happened!

HelenaDove · 31/01/2018 23:56

Devilish is your son ok now? Thanks

Yes their problems are physical Sharp as tacks though the pair of them.

DM thinks the disability cuts are disgusting.

ohlalalala · 31/01/2018 23:58

Yanbu
Load of dick

KittysMyName · 31/01/2018 23:59

You have to suspend beliefs when watching Silent Witness, since when do forensic teams interview suspects in cases? They seem to all Police departments AND forensic scientists rolled into one! This last story was particularly awful, although some the acting was brilliant and Clarissa’s story good yet heartbreaking.

Devilishpyjamas · 01/02/2018 00:13

Not really Helena - he’s now nearly 400 miles from home and it’s a 16 hour round trip to spend a few hours with him. I hadn’t been away from him for more than 2 (or very occasionally 3) days before the autumn.

I don’t think many people have any idea of the reality of life for people with learning disabilities in the U.K.

HelenaDove · 01/02/2018 00:15

Devilish i dont know what to say Sad Thanks

Devilishpyjamas · 01/02/2018 00:24

I know, it’s crap. We have some fab providers ready to work with him when he comes home, but accommodation is an issue. Sad

creativels · 01/02/2018 00:34

You've posted what I was thinking! Each week the police force grow ever more incompetent and the crime solving pathologists ever more super sleuths. I know its just entertainment but the story lines are borderline ridiculous now. So no you are not; the story line this week shows how out of touch they are

hesterton · 01/02/2018 06:27

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Devilishpyjamas · 01/02/2018 07:00

@hesterton if you’re on Twitter have a look at the #handleyinquest

Other good places to start are Mark Neary’s excellent blog markneary1dotcom1.wordpress.com

And Sara Ryan’s blog mydaftlife.com and book www.amazon.co.uk/Justice-Laughing-Boy-Sparrowhawk-Indifference/dp/178592348X?tag=mumsnetforum-21

I will hold my hand up and admit to beIng too scared to read past the first chapter of Sara’s book (which had me howling) as it’s just far too close to home at the moment. By all accounts it’s an excellent read.

There are 1200 unnecessary deaths of people with learning disabilities in the U.K. each year. It’s a shocking statistic caused by poor care. I don’t think it’s generally understood how bad it is. It took about 6 months to get blood tests completed for ds1 last year when he had repeated temperatures. My other children would have had them done within a week. And that’s 6 months with a PITA mother who has the ability to take on the system in their terms - if I hadn’t been around he’d probably have never had them.

hesterton · 01/02/2018 09:44

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Devilishpyjamas · 01/02/2018 10:02

Thanks for taking an interest hesterton - it means a lot.

Gemini69 · 01/02/2018 10:53

this show is not Real Life... this was written by a bunch of writers.....

and as such we expect at the very least a conclusion.... this was written so badly there was no conclusion to most of the loose ends.. it's a drama written by writers.. BADLY..

but there again.. it wasn't NEARLY as badly written as Channel 4's KIRI ?! now don't get me started in that CRAP ending....

flirtygirl · 01/02/2018 11:59

It was badly written and acted in some parts. Clarissa' back story was the onky decent part but all on this thread are now talking about the lifes of those with learning disabilities and disabilities in the uk.

My daughter was 19 at the weekend so ive had 19 years of watching her and myself be more marginalised and become more and more invisible, i thought having a child with disabilities was rough and then as they turn 16 or 18 there is no help and it gets worse and worse.

I like to think the program was far fetched but then i realise i was so upset by it because its all too real and close to home.

It was badly done but its got people talking so maybe its done something.

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RoseWhiteTips · 01/02/2018 13:18

From the Guardian...

While watching Silent Witness last night, it struck me that I’m old enough to remember Ironside, the crime fighter in a wheelchair, on TV in the 60s and 70s. As a disabled kid, I loved his van – I wanted that van. I never once thought about whether the actor Raymond Burr was disabled. Which he wasn’t, of course.

The first time I saw a disabled actor – an actual disabled person – playing a role was probably Sandy in the British TV soap Crossroads (also when I was young). Yet it remains a rarity, all these decades later, to see a disabled actor on TV, especially in a powerful role. So to have three disabled actors on prime time this week, in a long-running BBC drama such as Silent Witness, is a cause for celebration – and reflection.

The millions watching may see the abuse as melodrama. But let’s not forget Winterbourne View or Jimmy Savile
This trio of disabled acting talent was headed by Liz Carr, her five-year role as sharp-witted forensic scientist Clarissa Mullery amplified in a storyline about the abuse in a care home of disabled residents Kevin (Toby Sams-Friedman) and Serena (Rosie Jones). But I wasn’t prepared for the emotional impact the story had on me. At the point where Clarissa said “I’m terrified of being abandoned”, I could hardly breathe.

RoseWhiteTips · 01/02/2018 13:20

The heading:

Disabled actors on prime-time TV? No wonder I cried at Silent Witness
Penny Pepper
Finally a mainstream drama has spoken up for disabled people like me, and our fears in this abusive political climate.

It is an Opinion piece.

insancerre · 01/02/2018 13:22

I stopped watching it a few weeks ago
I couldn't stand the acting and the ridiculous storylines

HelenaDove · 01/02/2018 13:25

Gemini Handmaids Tale wasnt real either But that didnt stop ppl pointing out that each incident did happen just in different places around the world.

It sounds to me like this weeks Silent Witness is the same. If you take each individual incident they happened in different care homes around the country but here its just been packaged into one story in a similar way to The Handmaids Tale.

Agree its got people talking and debating this issue which is a good thing.

Devilishpyjamas · 01/02/2018 13:31

Although unfortunately many people think it can’t possibly happen.

I think everyone should read Sara Ryan’s book tbh.

Gemini69 · 01/02/2018 13:33

it's the not story that's the issue.. it's the conclusions.. the endings.. writers have choices... there was an unsatisfying ending.. that's just lazy writing... the only debate is when the writers should be Sacked ... today or tomorrow

Gemini69 · 01/02/2018 13:34

Although unfortunately many people think it can’t possibly happen

what ? bad endings to badly written dramas Hmm

HelenaDove · 01/02/2018 13:40

"David’s world was torn apart one morning by an envelope on his doormat. The letter was from the Department for Work and Pensions, and its wording was cryptic: “We need to speak to you about your benefit amount.” But thanks to his years of volunteering as a welfare rights adviser, he was all too aware of what it could mean: he was being investigated for benefit fraud.

Government to review 1.6m disability benefit claims after U-turn
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David needs his disability benefits. As well as having severe depression and anxiety, he has multiple physical health problems: bowel and heart disease, and a prolapsed disc in his spine. Heavy duty painkillers barely take the edge off his arthritis. Still, last summer he was summoned to the jobcentre for a compliance interview. David was informed that he’d been reported twice by members of the public for potential benefit fraud: once over the government’s benefit fraud hotline and once online.

Why? He was spotted at a nearby beach with his ill father, and had been seen on a bus to the city centre. “It was often to pick up a prescription. The bus stop is 100 metres from my house,” he explains to me. “I have crutches to use if [my health] flares up.”

You are likely to have seen many benefit fraud stories in the last few years. It features everywhere you look in the media, from the BBC’s programme Saints and Scroungers to the “shameless” and “swindling” families often plastered across the Daily Mail.

Stories such as David’s – of ordinary honest disabled people put through hell – rarely make the news. But he is far from an anomaly. In 2016 the Observer revealed through freedom of information requests that out of a million alleged cases of benefit fraud put forward by the public between 2010 and 2015, a staggering 85% were completely unsubstantiated. Last month the Independent reported there had been almost 300,000 public tip-offs on benefit fraud in the past two years that had resulted in no action due to a lack of evidence.

This is spy-on-your-neighbour Britain, where the sick individual with crutches isn’t a fellow citizen who should be offered help but a scrounger to dob in to the authorities. This has hardly happened by chance. For decades, the benefit fraudster has been the villain of choice for certain sections of the press and the political class. The left has by no means been immune. While previous Labour governments launched large-scale redistribution through the tax credit system, they never did enough to challenge the narrative perpetrated by the press of workshy claimants.

But more recently the scrounger narrative has sharpened as the right has carefully positioned the benefit fraudster as a natural bedfellow of austerity, the scapegoat to justify the obliteration of social security in the last eight years. Conservatives have created a witch-hunt against people on benefits. As the first cuts to disability benefits were introduced amid talk of the bloated welfare bill, the DWP ran advertising campaigns telling us that we, the public, had an important role to play in identifying benefit cheats. National newspapers ran campaigns calling on “all Brits to be patriotic and report any cheats you know”. All are fully aware that benefit fraud accounts for just 1.1% of the total benefits bill.

Government ministers have also adopted rhetoric suggesting disabled people are faking in order to get social security, and the majority of new claimants of sickness benefits are actually well enough to do some work. Theresa May’s former policy chief, George Freeman, said welfare should go to the“really disabled”. Esther McVey, the newly appointed work and pensions secretary, once bragged that she’d go after the “bogus disabled” while abolishing the lifeline of disability living allowance in her former role as minister for disabled people.

More than 85% of public tips on benefit 'frauds' are false
Read more
This isn’t simply rhetoric, it goes to the heart of government policy. Private companies are hired to push the sick through assessments so inaccurate that this week it emerged the government will have to review the benefits of 1.6 million disabled people that they may have wrongly removed, while claimants are sanctioned, often for reasons outside of their control, to the extent that people are left starving.

In this anti-welfare climate, it doesn’t actually matter if someone is lying to claim benefits or not. By dint of receiving “taxpayers’” money, they are still said to be cheating “hardworking families”. At a time when low pay is leading to a state of chronic insecurity, this sort of divide and rule tactic is particularly dangerous, as workers are sold the lie that the reason their wages can’t pay the rent is because the paraplegic person across the street is living the life of Riley. In reality, they’re struggling to afford to eat. Just this month, research found the majority of disability benefit claimants are being left without enough to live on.

How we treat benefit claimants speaks to wider societal negative attitudes towards people in poverty – a culture in which those who are unable to pay the rent or afford food for their children are increasingly seen as being there because of their own failings. We are witnessing individualism at its most rampant – a scale of dehumanisation that has reached such heights that even a wheelchair user can be judged as “undeserving”.

It’s time to counter this more effectively. When the public respond to the rightwing benefit scrounger narrative by snooping on their neighbour, it’s the job of the left to create an alternative argument. In conjunction with the Frameworks Institute, the Joseph Rowntree Foundation is running a Talking About Poverty project to understand how people who care about poverty can communicate about it in a better way. This is exactly the conversation we should be having. Part of this must be about setting out a positive, collectivist view of the welfare state that sees a social safety net as an ideal to protect all of us, rather than a national drain for a few to exploit. It must also involve addressing the routes of people’s insecurity, from low wages to unaffordable housing, while countering longstanding prejudice towards disabled people.

David was quickly cleared of any wrongdoing with his benefits but, seven months on, the ordeal has taken its toll. He’s now under the care of a psychiatric nurse and is trying to move house to feel safe from his neighbours. The other day, he tells me, an ex-colleague shouted “scrounger” at him as he walked into the local GP’s surgery. “Right now, I’m almost terrified to go out,” he says.

David’s name has been changed to protect his identity"

endofthelinefinally · 01/02/2018 13:42

I agree donkey.
My biggest fear is needing to go into a care home.

Devilishpyjamas · 01/02/2018 13:43

No gemini - (learning) disabled people being treated terribly by carers.

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