to think that Kate Winslet is a phoney hypocrite?

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-42824594

As far as I know she worked with child rapist Polanski willingly. I don't think Woody Allen pulled a gun to her head to do her latest film.

And the same for Hayley Atwell, Colin Firth etc. Why speak up NOW? They all knew of the Allen allegations when they worked for him.

Dylan Farrow seems to have appreciated the apologies (from some of the actor's anyway). Surely that counts for something?

Alex Baldwin has been defending Woody Allen and been making some highly questionable remarks about Dylan. (I think he has deleted his twitter again but it's all still out there). I know he isn't the most active actor anymore and I'm really only aware of him popping up on SNL as Trump. But I'll be surprised if there's any public dumping of him by them.

I am not angry that kw didnt speak out ages ago - she was looking after her career.
But working with this rapist or supporting him as whoopie did is a disgrace.

iwannaseehowitends no it wasnt a rumour but why it occurred was subject to many different narratives. Im just saying that it would have been easy to put a spin on it in the context of that industry to make it seem not that bad. I just dont think you can blame women who have gone on to see the error of their ways, for buying into the misogynist narrative at the time. Its quite hard not to buy into it when you are surrounded by it and people who pressure you to not make a fuss.

I hate how it is always women who are criticised for working with these terrible men. What about all the male actors, producers, directors, crew etc still working with these men?

To be fair Hot, it was ms applauding rp at an awards ceremony and now lending her support to 'me too'. The two positions don't marry up.
But I equally judge the men who worked with him too.

Sorry, don't fuck the children and don't hang around with people who think it's OK to fuck the children is pretty simple.

crunchymint exactly. People are turning on her because shes trying to support the #metoo movement now. And why on earth shouldnt she? Maybe her views have changed as she has gotten older and seen things more clearly. I know thats happened in my life so I dont see why this couldnt be the case here. I dont agree that she is a hypocrite.

There's huge hypocrisy in the industry from a lot of the people who are now vocally supporting #metoo. Natalie Portman has spoken out recently about how she was sexualised in the media after appearing in Leon at 12. She is one of the signatories on the Polanski petition. Emma Thompson signed it! Although I believe she asked for her name to be removed afterwards. Ewan McGregor has worked with and publicly supported Polanski. The industry makes me a bit sick tbh

Wind, I think if you were talking about a young actor, new to the business, you might have a point, but lots of these people have been around the block and know what's what.
I think they believed what it suited them to believe.

RP was a child rapist when KW worked with him in 2011 and a child rapist yesterday when she gave that speech so what is there for her to change her view on?

Yeah well when I see men who work with these awful men be criticised as much as the women, then I will start to pay some attention. At the moment I think this is simply misogynistic.

I have disgust for men and women who worked with RP.
Kw being so high profile is certainly under more scrutiny when she speaks out.
I believe her career came first back then and it comes first now.

Of course when women have turned a blind eye to further their career and now support MeToo are going to be called hypocrites

So what should they be protected from being criticised

And yes men should also be criticised they are not so much but that doesn’t mean women are above being criticism

she is v aggravating, imo

@EnthusiasmIsDisturbed my thoughts exactly

I'll save my fury for Donna Karan and all the rest of the 'what did they expect?' Brigade
Yes and worse than DK, as pp said, Whoopi Goldberg, who said of a 13 year old girl, ‘yeah but it wasn’t rape, rape’. Kate Winslet might be a hypocrite, might have conveniently ignored stuff, but Whoopi Goldberg was clearly in possession of the facts that a paedophile raped a child and she dismissed it as a nothing. How the fuck does she still have a career?

Yes Whoopi is vile and i hope her comments come back to haunt her. No doubt she was keeping on the right side of the genius.

I'm glad people are at least talking about the accusations against Woody Allen again. Having read a fair bit about it, I believe Dylan because a)I cannot think what that age child (Dylan) would have had to gain had she invented the story and then b) Woody going on to marry another person he'd adopted as a child with Mia...I think he's an inadequate little slimeball and the desperation to work with him has always seemed utterly bizarre.

I don't know how anyone could have carried on working with Woody Allen after his relationship with his step daughter became public. Could any one imagine doing that, working with and for, socialising with, praising a man who did that? A 'relationship' with a young woman whom he had known in a position of parental responsibility since she was a very young child (even if their lives weren't closely entwined).

“Woody Allen is an extraordinary writer,” said Winslet. “He’s obviously known for having created extraordinary roles, very very powerful and complicated roles for women, for many many years."

Quote from KW in an interview from last month when she was on the awards campaign trail for her new film she did with Allen - www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/margot-robbie-kate-winslet-woody-allen-face-response-praise-video-interview-a8117016.html

Has anyone seen the new Netflix series 'The Good Place'. Every artist ends up in hell.

I absolutely am not saying that artists should get a free pass because they are geniuses. But I do think that it is perhaps unrealistic to expect them to be exemplars of virtue. They are artists, not priests. By all means hold them to account, but don't act surprised that they are not paragons.

she worked with who she had to work for to get her star rising - so many of them did knowingly, the Allen accusations have been flying around for absolute years. People do what they have to to get to the top - fame and money goes to your head. I do find it a bit rubbish that in order for these 'celebrities' to not be blamed for wokring wth these directors, they are now suddenly coming out of the woodwork - a little too late.

People are not blaming her or saying that she that she could’ve politely declined those roles, as Jessica Chastain did.

She didn’t give a fuck about then, it is hypocritical to give a fuck now.

They’re not or*

Whisky, no one is expecting them to be exemplars of virtue, but I'd settle for them not sexually assaulting people are actively praising those that do!