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Benefit fraud action

99 replies

gordan · 25/01/2018 22:33

I’ve got a friend and she confessed to me that she reported her cousin for benefit fraud.

Her cousin has five children. Her And her husband claim tax credits for the kids and child benefit. Husband claims Jsa. My friend said the husband does cash in hand work getting 300 per week. The cousin started work on the side. My friend said she works fir a family friends business and may have declared she is working 10 hours but in reality working full time. Her employers as they family friends have probably given her a payslip reflecting she works 10 hours per week. On top of this they have 60.000 in savings. They have a rental property which they have not declared and opened a bank account for this rental property. The cousin goes on holidays in five star hotels and has renovated home and bought new car.
My friend said she wanted her cousin to claim the right amount of benefit And so shopped her for fraud. My friend said what they are getting in tax credits with what they are earning is a lot of money. She says she shopped them 6 months ago but nothing seems to have been done. Also my friend says the cousin husband was dobbed last time by someone, for working cash in hand but he got the people he was working for to say he was a volunteer.

My friend says that she doesn’t understand why this is the case of them not being prosecuted. Surely they would see what bank accounts the cousin has. My friend said they were going to put the rental
Income property in the eldest sons name who is 19. But surely if there was an investigation they would query how this 19 year old got a rental property. The mortgage had been set up by a private mortgage firm. But my friend said they used a normal bank account.

My friend said what’s the point of having benefit fraud if nothing happens especially with this case. There is literally 100,s of pounds they are claiming which they are not entitled to.
I’ve told her it’s best to leave it as she done was she could.

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ThisLittleKitty · 25/01/2018 22:35

Are you the "friend"?

FreudianSlurp · 25/01/2018 22:36

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SpitefulMidLifeAnimal · 25/01/2018 22:37

Your "friend" sounds like a nasty, jealous, bitter cow.

Auspiciouspanda · 25/01/2018 22:38

It literally takes months and months and months of investigation before anything happens. And if they can't prove anything what can they do?

Frequency · 25/01/2018 22:38

They have 60k in savings? Is that a typo?

I can't believe anyone could successfully hide 60k and a second house from HMRC, with all the checks they do.

Teaandbiscuits35 · 25/01/2018 22:40

You've reported it. Leave it be now.

PortiaCastis · 25/01/2018 22:41

I'm always amazed at how much folk know about others financial affairs

Gilead · 25/01/2018 22:42

Last time the benefits office came to check that we were claiming the right benefits they turned up with two years worth of my bank statements. They have access to bank statements etc. Your friend is making it up as she goes along.

StylishMummy · 25/01/2018 22:43

We all have a moral reason to report the thieving bastards that commit benefit fraud. It's stealing from the public purse and means less people who need it get adequate funding

GaryBarlowsTaxReturn · 25/01/2018 22:43

I used to work in benefit fraud. There was always massive backlog of cases. Not helped by malicious reports. It's likely that it's being worked on behind the scenes; your cousin will only be notified when she's called in for an interview.

hungryhippo90 · 25/01/2018 22:43

No I can understand being annoyed, they obviously don’t need the money at all.
It’s not a case of committing fraud just to get by.

Gilead · 25/01/2018 22:44

It's stealing from the public purse and means less people who need it get adequate funding Nonsense.

clumsyduck · 25/01/2018 22:47

She / you seem to know a lot about their finances and personal life eh

No one likes a grass Wink

MichaelaGummybear · 25/01/2018 22:48

There's loads of people I know that are committing benefit fraud. It's the norm here!

gamerchick · 25/01/2018 22:49

We all have a moral reason to report the thieving bastards that commit benefit fraud. It's stealing from the public purse and means less people who need it get adequate funding

There are more people not claiming the benefits they’re entitled too than they are defrauding the system.

Also, it doesn’t work like that

clumsyduck · 25/01/2018 22:50

And Indont think a lot of people report because it's the right thing to do but because they are annoyed /jealous by the money situation they say things like " they have 5 star holidays " which is why they are really mad

PortiaCastis · 25/01/2018 22:52

There is a benefit cap so nobody is rolling in it

guest477337 · 25/01/2018 22:52

Are you people stupid? You should report them!!!

I work hard 40+ hours a week and get rinsed by taxes for robbing twats like that to live a life of luxury while I struggle to pay my mortgage. Report them and I hope they get what's coming to them!!!!!

KeepServingTheDrinks · 25/01/2018 22:54

What is your AIBU?

BoldKitties · 25/01/2018 22:55

The friend is you, yes? At least have the courage of your convictions and be honest about it.

I've been on benefits, how anyone thinks it's a nice cushy life is beyond me. It was fucking miserable.

Also what gamerchick said.

crazycatgal · 25/01/2018 22:58

@BoldKitties The OP is saying that these people are working and claiming benefits that they aren't entitled to - so they are probably enjoying a cushy life. She isn't talking about unemployed people with benefits as their only income.

BoldKitties · 25/01/2018 22:59

Oh give over, guest477337. A life of luxury? My arse. You come across as a rather bitter fucker. If you earn well enough to get 'rinsed by taxes' then presumably you're earning a decent amount of money. So why are you so bitter?

guest477337 · 25/01/2018 23:01

@BoldKitties I'm bitter cause why should the money I earn and get taken by taxes be taken away and given to people who don't need it?

guest477337 · 25/01/2018 23:02

@BoldKitties also love read the thread, they're not just in benefits they have a lot of savings and both work

MelanieSmooter · 25/01/2018 23:02

For fucks sake, I’m as vocal as the next person defending those who are HONESTLY on benefits. People like those described in the OP do exist - either those who don’t declare their full self employed income or work cash in hand on top of benefits. They are not ‘poor’ and don’t need pity. They need reporting so that the people who need the money aren’t constantly lumped in with the robbing bastards. It makes me sick.

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