To be sick of people complaining that they are freezing

[Bookaboo]

When it's actually about 23' in the office. Just fed up of hearing it. I do wonder if it's because people heat their homes excessively and so most places end up feeling colder in comparison.

Also, outside. Temperatures have been mild yesterday and today compared to last week, when it genuinely was sub zero and people had grounds to complain. But people are still moaning that it's freezing when it's 10 degrees warmer!

Don't get it!

I am genuinely always cold unless I'm sat in direct sunlight. I wear layers all the time and in the office I've been wearing t shirt jeans jumper and fleece with an oil radiator right next to me and have still been shivery. I know this is really weird. At home I am always under a throw when sat on the sofa. Even in summer.

I think when you're sat at work with a blanket over your legs and fingerless gloves on (so you can still type) you have a right to say something about it. I also keep a fleece jacket in my locker. Air con in the UK is unnecessary!

I think when you're sat at work with a blanket over your legs and fingerless gloves on (so you can still type) you have a right to say something about it
As in raise it with an appropriate person and aee what can be done to warm you up.

Not whine to anyone and everyone that an office temperature where everyone else is fine is the arctic and should be turned up so everyone else is too hot.

*@MaisyPops
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I had Reynauds for years - hands would go completely white and then I'd go into a warm environment and they'd itch like crazy.

The thing that sorted me out was Ginger supplements. Took them regularly and the following winter: nothing.
I've lapsed taking them recently and it's started to creep back so I need to up that again.

Also: fresh ginger and lemon with honey as a drink whenever possible.

LadyOfTheCanyon
That's worth knowing. My hands aren't usually too bad. A little yellow at times but.not too bad.
My feet go yellowy white and then get sore and have like an internal throbbing itch. I wear fluffy socks and boots / fleese lined tights + socks and boots.

I'll try ginger though. Now to see if you can take it when TTC

It is fucking freezing in my office. The BMS can't seem to realise that you need to adjust the temperature to correspond with outside.

If they do then the system is broken.

The whole point of a thermostat (or temperature on a car climate control) is that it stays the same year round, not up in the winter and down in the summer!

If anything the office should be set to a higher temp in the summer to compensate for the different clothing people should be wearing for when they are outside

Where the hell are all your offices?! Mine and my partners still have the a/c on full crank in December. Saying anything to anyone results in us looking like we're one of the I'm freezing moaners...but I actually am. Sitting in an office wearing your coat, where it's actually milder outside doesn't scream professional.

My thermostat is set at 18 degrees. On a week day it goes off at 7am and doesn't come on again until 2.30 pm. I get home at around 1.30 most days but rarely feel the need to override the timer and put it on early.

No wonder so many people moan about their energy bills if they are heating their homes to over 20 degrees!

banana - if you are cold when the temperature is 18C, despite wearing thermals, thick socks and wool jumper, how do you cope in the summer? 18C is a pretty common temperature in summer in the UK. Do you wear thick socks and thermal long-johns all year round, inside and out?

Good question. I only developed sudden onset Raynaud's last year, so I went from 'feeling the cold' to 'really really feeling the cold very intensely'.

Also we moved to a rental property while we're doing renovations on our house. Brand spanking new heating system but large rooms with windows that still let through some draughty air. So the heating may be set at 18, but I can still feel a chill from outside where the temp is much colder. Hence the jumpers etc. And the heating can only do so much in a larger room. In our previous homes we've had completely hermetically sealed double glazing and so the heating has been mix more effective.

Work is similar insofar as I am sat next to a single glazed window / people like to open a window nearby where I'm sat.

In the summer the ambient air temperature isn't chilly, so it's much less uncomfortable. I will be fine in normal layers when the air temp itself is warmer. Although I didn't have Raynaud's last summer so I'm curious as to what it'll be like

I will always sit with a big cardigan on when there's a/c on in the office, even in the height of summer. I wouldn't expect it to be turned off on my account - but I do resent it when someone takes the piss for wearing a jumper when it's sweltering. Yes it is sweltering, but not right under this air vent!

I’m wondering how massive my gas bill is going to be this winter.

It’s set to around 25, and is on all day because I’m at home much of the time.

But that’s because my bodily thermostat is rather perturbed at the moment.

*much more efficient

(I don't ever have the thermostat set to 18 in this house, it's set at 20, and will get whacked up to 22 and the oil filled radiator in the bedroom switched on as soon as I get in from work, to warm the room up before bed.)

"Air con in the UK is unnecessary!"

I agree. I work in Sheffield. We have one or two days a year where it is beneficial. My office is usually too cold in summer, and I usually wear jeans and a cardigan on hot days when I am at work.

18 degrees is comfortable when moving around, but too cold (for me) for sitting still in short sleeves.

my office is in an old house which has high ceilings and is incredibly draughty. The central heating radiator heats the air about a foot away and then the temp drops to baltic. Management gave me an extra heater to put near my desk which is fine, and I don't share with anyone so can adjust to suit. It's not uncommon for informal meetings and chats to take place with someone warming their bum on the radiator. At home it's hot water bottles, wraps and throws to combat the chill

I live in Scotland, and one of the things I like most about it is that it doesn't usually get very hot here. I anticipate it becoming more and more of a holiday destination as people in France, Spain, Italy and the south of England swelter in the increasingly unbearable summer temperatures. It was 35 degrees plus in those places last summer. In Scotland it was early 20s and really pleasant. It does get a bit chilly in the winter, but speaking personally I have got used to it and don't find it a problem, despite not putting the heating on all that much.

I don't think it's about people moaning. It doesn't really get very cold in the UK (cities aren't covered in ice and snow for weeks at a time, rivers don't freeze over etc). Most people are able to go through the winter without a proper winter coat, trousers etc.

Then there are buildings that are not designed to be offices - badly insulated, draughty, poorly maintained, with organisations trying to save on heating.

It's not a good combination. Personally through most of the year I am quite happy to walk around without a coat as I am always rushing and warm. When I sit in a draughty office with a faulty radiator at 18 degrees and I get up to go through a corridor at 13 degrees, then yes I am cold. Yes I keep blankets and jumpers at work, so does everyone in our organisation.

I think part of the problem is clothes, and especially women's clothes. Bedding as well. Everything's designed on the basis that we keep the heating on high all winter. And on the basis that women rarely venture outdoors.

18 degrees here at home, although me and DP are having a non-stop silent war over it - he turns it up, I turn it down.

I prefer cold to hot - I'm a massive moaner on the summer. Last year our office (no AC) got to 34 degrees when it was 29 outside. I thought I was going to die of sweating too much.

in the summer*

I'm not in any way suggesting that people should work in a cold office. I'm saying that people who work in an office which is already heated to around 23 degrees C should be thankful for it and not complain they're a bit chilly or expect to crank up the radiator even further.
23 degrees is already excessive IMO and I think above what would be universally agreed as acceptable.

If only the cold people in the office wouldn't hog the windows, everyone would be much happier! There are several who moan about drafts but won't countenance swapping desks with a hot person like me who sits here sweating throughout the year & would relish a cold draft for some relief.

Our office is almost always at around 25 degrees (hotter in the summer - no air on and lots of windows) which is just far too hot for me. On the rare occasions the heating isn't working I come alive and feel so much more alert and productive. I spend most other days yawning and sleepy.

Pain-causing medical conditions aside, it's simply not necessary for an office to be that warm.

Ahem. My house still has ice on the inside of the windows on occasion.
Like Tinkly I like the Grandma conversation. Except I suspect nuclear, solar and wind/wave power will get more refined. We've been living off nuclear for some time.

My permanent coldness includes raynauds and it is painful. I have had it in my hand since I was 7, it is enough to make me feel nauseous fifth pain and I still don't complain about the cold the was a lot of people do and I probably am more in a position to but I still don't. No one likes to hear people continually whinging, complaining etc change the record, if everyone like me can manage to crack on without whinging then the whingers need to give themselves a bit of a shake:)

I'm always cold, so I put extra layers on for work & keep jumpers here etc.
At home, I don't have central heating, just storage heaters and an electric fire, so I just have loads of blankets.
I don't subject others to my internal heating controls, I'm just better suited to warmer weather!

Wish more people would do the same Stinkbomb!
Layering doesn't have to mean you need to sit there like the Michelin man. A few thin layers that trap air between them are more effective than one big chunky jumper anyway.

I grew up before central heating.

I hate the cold.

Florida, 112 in the shade and I finally felt truly warm. I went jogging.

I think I was born in the wrong country